Speculation: Would Andersen clear waivers?

[LondonKendrick]

Not looking for why the Leafs wouldn't grand standing.

Just simply put, would Andersen clear waivers if put on today?

-Edit, things I should of clarified by didn't think I'd have to....

1. Would you want him and that contract on your team for nothing, I get that clearing space is an issue mid season, the question is meant more on how negative is Andersen's value. Asking other fanbases, would you want him for nothing?

2. For people calling panic, there was, myself included a lot of Leaf fans that cringed at this deal from day one and not the least bit surprised by Toskala's, I mean Andersen's failure. Being proven right isn't panicking-

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[CrazyDuck4u]

LOL. Thats all I can say.

 

[BinCookin]

Not looking for why the Leafs wouldn't grand standing.

Just simply put, would Andersen clear waivers if put on today?

Simply Answered:

YES

 

[thedoughboy]

Not looking for why the Leafs wouldn't grand standing.

Just simply put, would Andersen clear waivers if put on today?

Fredrik Andersen? I'd seriously doubt it.


Carolina would pick him up in a heartbeat considering how AWFUL their goaltending is and how much capspace they have

What makes you think waiving him would be sane in any way?

 

[Djp]

Crazy...he would clear mainly because who has the cap space. They just gave up alot for him in 1st, 2nd and bernier

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

This is why no one wants to sign with the Leafs. Bad couple weeks -- thrown under the bus.

 

[Exit Dose]

Ah, the good ol' panic thread.

 

[Hammettf2b]

What in the world???

 

[thedoughboy]

Crazy...he would clear mainly because who has the cap space. They just gave up alot for him in 1st, 2nd and bernier

Edmonton, Ottawa, Florida, New Jersey, Winnipeg, and Carolina have the space.

Of those I could see Ottawa and carolina trying to pick him up. Maybe winnipeg too.

 

[FLYLine27*]

What is this???????

 

[caniac247]

Fredrik Andersen? I'd seriously doubt it.


Carolina would pick him up in a heartbeat considering how AWFUL their goaltending is and how much capspace they have

What makes you think waiving him would be sane in any way?

Andersen isn't doing any better than Ward or Lack, so no Carolina wouldn't pick him up.

Ward: GP 3; GAA 4.02; Sv% .848
Lack: GP 3; GAA 4.00; Sv% .857
Andersen: GP 5; GAA 4.29; Sv% .851

Toronto and Carolina are in the same boat. Rebuilding. Andersen in order to be a good goalie needs a team like Anaheim. A team that is already competitive not one that is in a rebuild.

Plus, Carolina had Andersen once before as they drafted him the first time and he refused to sign. So no, they wouldn't pick him up.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Fredrik Andersen? I'd seriously doubt it.


Carolina would pick him up in a heartbeat considering how AWFUL their goaltending is and how much capspace they have

What makes you think waiving him would be sane in any way?

Carolina isn't going to pick up that contract when they have two goalies signed through next season either even if he'd be better than both. They're not exactly going for it this year so that kind of thing isn't going to help them in any real capacity.

Andersen would probably clear waivers just on cap figure alone much less add that the goalie market isn't that great. The teams that need goalies don't want to spend that much in cap dollars and if they did, they'd want it to be in a trade so they can move cap dollars back.

Someone clearing waivers isn't really indicative of his value either when they're making this much. In most cases, it's really just a matter of not being capable of taking the full salary on.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I don't know if this is a testament to how bad the leafs defense is or how good the ducks defense is.


I mean he did co-win the Jennings last year

 

[Vipers31]

Setting aside the warranted grand standing for why it wouldn't happen, yes, one would have to assume he gets picked up. There's a bit of risk in the extension Lou gave him, but for team's with decent goalie scouting, it should be a manageable risk.

 

[RomanianLeafs]

we do have some stupid fans...

 

[Empoleon8771]

He wouldn't clear, but I don't know who would have the cap space to claim him. Maybe Arizona? Although I can't imagine they'd want to spend $11 million on goalies.

 

[BlueBaron]

This would be awesome asset management. The important thing is to panic.....

 

[thedoughboy]

Carolina isn't going to pick up that contract when they have two goalies signed through next season either even if he'd be better than both. They're not exactly going for it this year so that kind of thing isn't going to help them in any real capacity.

Andersen would probably clear waivers just on cap figure alone much less add that the goalie market isn't that great. The teams that need goalies don't want to spend that much in cap dollars and if they did, they'd want it to be in a trade so they can move cap dollars back.

Someone clearing waivers isn't really indicative of his value either when they're making this much. In most cases, it's really just a matter of not being capable of taking the full salary on.

Sure, but the fact that they are transitioning into a competitive means having the absolutely deplorable goaltending they have isn't going to work, look at calgary. I think they'd put up the 5mil cap figure considering they were paying Ward more than that since 06'. They'd take Andersen in a heart beat. Putting Andersen in front of Carolinas defense would actually work, considering Carolinas at very least has the ability to be a lot better than toronto's.

 

[garyturner3]

Fans like you are exactly why it's tough playing in Toronto!

 

[KGL]

What a ridiculous, embarrassing thread.

 

[go4hockey]

Wow some fans are just a total joke. Go ahead and waive him when he gets picked up it would be very funny that he cost you those assets.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Wow some fans are just a total joke. Go ahead and waive him when he gets picked up it would be very funny that he cost you those assets.

Agreed

 

[thedoughboy]

I don't know if this is a testament to how bad the leafs defense is or how good the ducks defense is.


I mean he did co-win the Jennings last year

The Ducks were a good team in the regular season last year, with a more than respectable defense. But Andersen (IMO) wasn't the reason you ended with the jennings, it was the whole team.

That said, I also don't think andersen was much of an improvement over Reimer who had a better sv% 5v5 than andersen last year on two teams with worse defense (again IMO). Andersen did have a better PKSV%, but the ducks PK was obscenely good last year, and it the games I watched it wasn't because of andersen.

we do have some stupid fans...

Absolutely, takes the cake for today though.

 

[SprDaVE]

What?

 

[xxreact9]

There is a 0% chance he would clear waivers. An absolute impossibility. He was traded for a 1st round pick 8 games ago as an RFA, with that value full knowing he'd get paid at least 5M. You think his value has gone from a 1st, to absolutely nothing, within 8 games because he went from the best defensive team in hockey to the very worst and he's struggling? Who didn't see that coming (other than biased leaf fans).

Stop. Stop. Stop and do not pass go. Upgrade your defense. The leafs have ONE top four defenseman. ONE. One singular player that could even touch a top-4 of a cup contender, and he'd be slotted into the #4 role. They have no one at the position. Zaitsev looks really promising, Rielly will get much better, but that's 2 players. They have no top 4. Don't say Gardiner, he's earning the 6th most minutes on the worst blueline in hockey. 6th, that is dead last. It's time this widespread consensus of his excellence be ended. I've seen many posts saying he's a "high upside #2", or bonafide #2, bonafide #3. He's none of those things, not even close. Mike Babcock knows it too and it shows.

The goalie has no chance when you're icing one of the worst defenses this sport has ever seen. Worst in the league just doesn't quite cut it for this group. They are just not good. They let in the most goals in the entire league last year, added a Jennings trophy goalie, and are still allowing the most goals per game. That is how bad their D is. The bottom-10 teams in goals against this year are:

Calgary, Toronto, Arizona, Chicago, Philly, Carolina, Boston, Winnipeg, Pittsburgh, Nashville.

They all have significantly better defenses than T.O. It's bad news bears for their defense, so leave the goalie alone for once. The heat he is taking is nothing short of insane.