Worst Habs trade in the last 15 years

Which one of these trades you would consider the worst in the last 15 years?

  • Dvorak for 1st round pick + 2nd round pick

    Votes: 7 1.8%
  • Drouin + 6th round pick for Sergachev + 2nd round pick

    Votes: 201 51.3%
  • Shaw for 2nd round pick + 2nd round pick

    Votes: 2 0.5%
  • Cammalleri + Ramo + 4th round pick for Bourque + Holland + 2nd round pick

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Gomez + Pyatt + Busto for McDonagh + Higgins + Janik + Valentenko

    Votes: 174 44.4%
  • Others

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
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Twisted Sinister

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I have to give another honorable mention to the PK Subban trade that others are mentioning. Not because it's the worst pound-for-pound trade on the list, far from it.

But because it was a microcosm of their conservative, loser organizational philosophy that seems to exist to this day.

This trade was the last time I stopped following the team. Don't think I missed much.
 

BLONG7

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Should do thread best trades in last 15 years. Because Bergs brilliant hockey man. Got Habs to Finals, only GM to get there without going through prolonged period of terrible hockey team. Also, never sacrifice his future to do it. Remarkable. All other teams like Tampa, Boston, Toronto, have traded away 1st and 2nd round picks many years into future.
Price says hold my beer.
Covid division was the reason we even made the playoffs....
Bergevin was brilliant at bull$hitting Molson.....that's it.

I have to give another honorable mention to the PK Subban trade that others are mentioning. Not because it's the worst pound-for-pound trade on the list, far from it.

But because it was a microcosm of their conservative, loser organizational philosophy that seems to exist to this day.

This trade was the last time I stopped following the team. Don't think I missed much.
Therrien was the cause of that trade............Bergevin was Therrien's puppet at that moment in time.
It was hard to stomach the team for me, since 2017...............The Markov/Radulov leaving and adding Alzner season....
 
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Le Barron de HF

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I lived through both as an hardcore Habs fans.

I think the Gomez trade brought us something, even if it's not much.
We all know he's the reason many other players decided to sign here like Gionta or Cammalleri and in his 1st season with the Habs, we went to the ECF and he was our 3rd best pts producer and we only had to endure for 3 years him even if it was with some luck. One of our Captain was here because of him.

Drouin....we really got nothing out of it......just a six years of waiting, overpaying and it's was all a deception. He really brought nothing to this organization in any way, shape of form.



At 5M, it could have made a world of difference or maybe not. I will always see the fans and medias being somewhat responsible of Gomez's downfall......he was here 2.5 years and they completely destroyed at the first chance they got because of his salary.

They had no reason to complain after year #1 and in year #2 everybody was trashing him on the web and on social medias, which was different back then, it was a little bit newer to see such an entire fan base publicly humiliating a player, and medias added tons of fuel on that fire cause they wanted to see the local guy, Desharnais, to take his place.

I think this counter balance the fact we got lucky to get out of his contract.
He was criticized because as our most paid player (39 point pace despite playing 2:30+ mins on PP on average and more than 18 minutes a night) he was being outshined by a more responsible player in Plekanec who was home grown and Desharnais. Gomez had one good year and as pointed out by @Clownzymandias he was awful when Markov was hurt so he was not someone who was impacting play positively. Drouin still produced 7 points in 10 GP in 19-20, who knows how he would have done in 20-21. FWIW he was good in TB too that one year. For me it's Gomez AINEC.
 
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MXD

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They had no reason to complain after year #1 and in year #2 everybody was trashing him on the web and on social medias, which was different back then, it was a little bit newer to see such an entire fan base publicly humiliating a player, and medias added tons of fuel on that fire cause they wanted to see the local guy, Desharnais, to take his place.

I think this counter balance the fact we got lucky to get out of his contract.
Desharnais had already very obviously taken Gomez' place by the middle/end of 2010-2011. The media wasn't pushing for anything that wasn't already set in stone by the two players performances.

As for 09-10, Gomez had achieved the bare minimum, considering salary and what was given for him. Still, 12 goals for a guy who shot as much as he did isn't acceptable.
 

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Easily Gomez. Its not even a competition.

Bloated salary center who lasted 2.5 years with us and got drastically worse every single year. We gave up McDonagh(a top pairing D prospect) and Higgins(20 goal scorer) for this privilege.

Many will point to Drouin which IMO is 2nd worse but not the worst. The reason is he wasn't paid nearly 8M like Gomez, gave more years than Gomez and more production per 82 games. Unlike the Gomez trade we didn't give up an additional speedy 20 goal winger on top of it.
 

Belial

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Gomez AINEC!

The Rangers were happy just to get rid of his contract but Gainey managed to pay a premium to get him! :facepalm:

The Drouin trade made sense at least as he was viewed as a young talent full of potential.
 
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The pick was conditional to segachev playing less than 40 games or something like that…TB were merciful because pretty sure they could have found a way to only play him 39 games as a rookie… Other exemple of MTL taking on most of the risk…

Sergachev played 79 games his first season with them and did well as a rookie. To actually reduce his GP by slightly more than half, ruin their top prospect's confidence and stunt his development to 'stick it to the habs' would be ridiculous. If they played him say 45 games then yes, they could've easily dropped him down to 39 but 79 to 39 was not even in the same spectrum. Them playing him 79 games wasn't merciful in any way.
 

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Desharnais had already very obviously taken Gomez' place by the middle/end of 2010-2011. The media wasn't pushing for anything that wasn't already set in stone by the two players performances.

As for 09-10, Gomez had achieved the bare minimum, considering salary and what was given for him. Still, 12 goals for a guy who shot as much as he did isn't acceptable.

Gomez sucked and Desharnais took his place because of that, not debating that, and the attack the fans did on Gomez was because of his salary and he was playing, but I've rarely seen the medias before or since then being so nasty and disrespectful.

And that might not have been what was driving their decision, but they were pushing for Desharnais before he even played a game in the NHL and even after Gomez was gone, they've kept teashing Plekanec, Galchenyuk and Eller....well everyone except Desharnais who apparently was the only center worthy of being a top 6 center on the Habs and they always criticize anyone who could push him out.
 

Twisted Sinister

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Price says hold my beer.
Covid division was the reason we even made the playoffs....
Bergevin was brilliant at bull$hitting Molson.....that's it.


Therrien was the cause of that trade............Bergevin was Therrien's puppet at that moment in time.
It was hard to stomach the team for me, since 2017...............The Markov/Radulov leaving and adding Alzner season....

I think Molson and the hospital donation had something to do with it as well.
 
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Milhouse40

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I have to give another honorable mention to the PK Subban trade that others are mentioning. Not because it's the worst pound-for-pound trade on the list, far from it.

But because it was a microcosm of their conservative, loser organizational philosophy that seems to exist to this day.

This trade was the last time I stopped following the team. Don't think I missed much.

It was a heart shattering trade for me......especially for the opposite type of players and person. From extra fun to extra boring. From young and exciting to old and calm.

As big as this trade was, in the end, I sure as hell don't think we're the winner of that trade......but can't call us giant loser either.
 

Belial

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It was a heart shattering trade for me......especially for the opposite type of players and person. From extra fun to extra boring. From young and exciting to old and calm.

As big as this trade was, in the end, I sure as hell don't think we're the winner of that trade......but can't call us giant loser either.
Pretty sure having Weber around Suzuki and Caufield was worth it.
 

Chili

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The day after the Gomez trade, the Rangers signed Marian Gaborik to a five year contract. They did not have the cap space before the deal, Sather was against the clock to dump Gomez' awful contract. So Gaborik was the real key part of the deal for them. Was nice to get their future captain as well.
 
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Nashy

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Cammmalleri traded during a game against Boston....man those were some dark days....
Yep....Perry Pearn fired an hour before a game and Gauthier telling Cammalleri he had to pay for his jersey.....dark days indeed.... organization was a total joke
 
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I went with the Gomez trade, Drouin deal is close but Mcdonagh was a legit top pairing dman, having a big 3 with him pk and Markov would have been something to see. Just imagine that Rangers conference final had we never traded for Gomez, and drafted Kreider instead of Leblanc, that kinda shit keeps me up at night lol
 

Gaylord Q Tinkledink

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The compliance buyout is also another reason why the Gomez trade was even worse than it actually was, because we shouldn't have been able to get rid of him without giving a few first rounders.

For the record : If Scott Gomez would've been paid around 5M for the reminder of his deal (same term - still an overpay all things considered, but pretty much an acceptable UFA center premium), it would probably be arguable as to whether his "trade" was worse than Drouin's. I still can't wrap my head around the fact this guy was a shoot-first playmaker, despite having an absolute muffin of a shot.


Gomez would pass up opportunities to shoot to force a pass.

Weber/ Subban was a total disaster
Not even close, but you like to troll and take something waaaaay out, or you're just really that slow.
 
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I love trade history :D

Dwight King for a 4th rounder was pretty useless ...

Andrew Shaw was bad, we could ve picked Girard. But when he was sent back to Chicago, habs got a 2nd et 7th and 3rd picks. So at the end of the day, it s not so bad.

Maxim Lapierre traded for Brett Festerling, useless

Steve Bégin traded for Doug Janik, bad

I think Gomez for McDonagh is still killing me , but who knew ( and lets remember he rushed for Gomez because Lecavalier trade never happened, 100th anniversary pressure etc ... )

And Drouin for Sergatchev, well, it s mcdonagh all over again. Here Bergevin thought he got a talented center ...

Bergevin didn't make too many bad trades. They drafted badly enough so they did not have much to make big trades. And he liked to trade for 3rd / 4th liners. But not making good enough trades is almost worst than making bad trades. Doing so he let the Price Era go bye without moving ...
 

Surfer72

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Yep....Perry Pearn fired an hour before a game and Gauthier telling Cammalleri he had to pay for his jersey.....dark days.... organization was a total joke
Dark days...I have selected amnesia of those times
 

Captain97

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I feel like the Shaw trade wasn't so bad considering what we got in return for him.

The Sergachev and McD trades are the top 2 in their own tier. I think McD was worse.
 
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Belial

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I feel like the Shaw trade wasn't so bad considering what we got in return for him.

The Sergachev and McD trades are the top 2 in their own tier. I think McD was worse.
The Shaw trade is constantly brought up due to the players picked with those traded picks.
 

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