Worst Habs trade in the last 15 years

[ML16]

Those picking Drouin trade over Gomez were probably not adults at the time. It was instantly objectively bad. It was like a trade from the pre-cap era. Just no understanding of the impact of that albatross of a contract and sending a defenseman who was about to enter his peak years…. Just not defensable.

Habs defense when they traded away up and coming LHD Sergachev for a redundant winger :

Mete! - Weber
Schlemko!! - Petry
Morrow!!! - Reilly
Alzner!!!!

Habs defense when they traded young LHD McDonagh for a C who was vastly overpaid but at least ended PPG in the playoffs:

Marko (Injured) - Subban
Hamrlik - Wisniewski
Gill - Weber
Gorges
Spacek

 

[Vachon23]

Weber's presence lasted like 20-25 games for Caufield........and I think the real leader of this team never was Weber, it was Price.

That it what almost every players and Pierre Gervais in his book are saying.

They all said how much Weber leadership was felt in the lockeroom

Habs defense when they traded away up and coming LHD Sergachev for a redundant winger :

Mete! - Weber
Schlemko!! - Petry
Morrow!!! - Reilly
Alzner!!!!

Habs defense when they traded young LHD McDonagh for a C who was vastly overpaid but at least ended PPG in the playoffs:

Marko (Injured) - Subban
Hamrlik - Wisniewski
Gill - Weber
Gorges
Spacek

Yea but imagine our big years (2013-2016) with a top 3 of Subban-McDonagh-Markov.

 

[ZUKI]

Pretty strongly disagree with the takes in this thread about Sergachev being better than McDonagh. I have it the other way around and I don't think it's close. Even an early 30s past his prime McDonagh was given a bigger role at even strength than Sergachev when they were teammates in Tampa.

The idea that Sergachev would have been the same player with the Habs is soo naive. Sergachev played for the best team of the NHL . No way he would have those stats with any other team out of the top 3 teams of the NHL

 

[Whalers Fan]

Weber/ Subban was a total disaster

I don't agree. When the trade took place, I hated it, as Subban was a Norris winner, younger, and just plain fun to watch play. However, calling the trade a disaster really is a disservice to Weber. He was a rock defensively and provided leadership. Seeing how PK's body broke down prematurely, the trade actually ended up being pretty even.

 

[River Meadow]

How many of you knew at the time the trade was done (Sergachev for Drouin), that it was bad?

I remember being absolutely livid we had traded Sergachev for Tampa's problem child (he was being pouty as heck at this time, would not report to AHL or he did but complained, it was a big mess) with whom I was not that impressed by at all.

Sergachev at the time had just become the OHL's top dman at 17yrs old and only a handful had done this feat. He was an absolute beast.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Gomez would pass up opportunities to shoot to force a pass.


Not even close, but you like to troll and take something waaaaay out, or you're just really that slow.

Weber for Subban was a joke
Subban was at the top while we traded him. He was everything the fans wanted. Superstar , Great with fans , amazing with the community , playoff warrior. Amazing to watch. Give a reason to visit the bell center.

Then we traded him for a guy that was starting on his decline.

Habs refused crazy offers (google Subban trade that were refused if u wanna know) , example Draisailt.

Weber did not make us a better team at the present or at long term. Please don't bring the stupid ''Leadership'' .

The Gomez and Sergachev were both bad but the Subban trade did absolutely nothing to us except getting older while Price had to do everything with or without Weber.

You can call me a troll all you want , because i have a diferent opinion than urs don't make you god amighty on this forum and the voice of reason

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Weber for Subban was a joke
Subban was at the top while we traded him. He was everything the fans wanted. Superstar , Great with fans , amazing with the community , playoff warrior. Amazing to watch. Give a reason to visit the bell center.

Then we traded him for a guy that was starting on his decline.

Habs refused crazy offers (google Subban trade that were refused if u wanna know) , example Draisailt.

Weber did not make us a better team at the present or at long term. Please don't bring the stupid ''Leadership'' .

The Gomez and Sergachev were both bad but the Subban trade did absolutely nothing to us except getting older while Price had to do everything with or without Weber.

You can call me a troll all you want , because i have a diferent opinion than urs don't make you god amighty on this forum and the voice of reason

I mean if you're choosing an option that 98% don't agree with it may be time to reevaluate your position...

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

How many of you knew at the time the trade was done (Sergachev for Drouin), that it was bad?

I remember being absolutely livid we had traded Sergachev for Tampa's problem child (he was being pouty as heck at this time, would not report to AHL or he did but complained, it was a big mess) with whom I was not that impressed by at all.

Sergachev at the time had just become the OHL's top dman at 17yrs old and only a handful had done this feat. He was an absolute beast.

The reason people hated it was because
1st - Markov was gone and Sergachev was clearly NHLer for his replacement
2nd - We needed a Center badly , yet Drouin is mostly a winger which didnt fix anything
3rd - Drouin was a known rock head manchild and as we saw . We were all right.

We need a legit center , yes Barginbin managed to make the impossible , make a winger into a great center ... oh wait.

 

[Belial]

How many of you knew at the time the trade was done (Sergachev for Drouin), that it was bad?

I remember being absolutely livid we had traded Sergachev for Tampa's problem child (he was being pouty as heck at this time, would not report to AHL or he did but complained, it was a big mess) with whom I was not that impressed by at all.

Sergachev at the time had just become the OHL's top dman at 17yrs old and only a handful had done this feat. He was an absolute beast.

Sergachev was not this slamdunk defensive juggernaut... There were questions about his play in his own zone and to be honest he's still not amazing in his own zone.

It was a pretty fair trade at the time in terms of value.

Too bad Drouin shit the bed.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I mean if you're choosing an option that 98% don't agree with it may be time to reevaluate your position...

Less popular opinion = bad .
People called me out for hating Bergevin for 5 years just to realized in 2021 that he was a clown and my argument was fine.
People called me out on the Armia re-signing thread , couldn't care less was right again.


Like I care about the major opinion not being mine.
Not because a TV show is rated 97% and that I hate the show makes my opinion bad.

 

[ML16]

That it what almost every players and Pierre Gervais in his book are saying.

They all said how much Weber leadership was felt in the lockeroom


Yea but imagine our big years (2013-2016) with a top 3 of Subban-McDonagh-Markov.

In retrospect, Subban-McDonagh-Markov playing a few years together in Montreal would indeed have been awesome.

At the time however, even if I despised the trade because of the targeted asset, I could at least understand that the Habs were leveraging a quality prospect from their deepest position (LHD) to acquire a "proven" top-6 C. Not unlike what the Habs will have to do (less misguidedly of course, one hopes!) within the next couple of years with their overflowing D pipeline.

Whereas I never understood the reasoning behing trading away Sergachev: not only was the LHD cupboard barren at the time, but the target - another winger! - was not filling any of the Habs' most dire need; a catastrophic asset-management endeavour from the outset.

And the thought of having Sergachev on Montreal's side instead of Tampa Bay's during the 2021 Stanley Cup final* is not too shabby either, if only for a few weeks.

Chiarot- Weber
Sergachev- Petry
Edmundson - Romanov/Kulak

*Not that I think of it, if having McDonagh on Montreal's side instead of New York's somehow prevents Price's injury from occuring during the Eastern Conference in 2014, then I'm ready to concede and put the McDonagh ahead of Sergachev as worst trade!

 

[River Meadow]

Sergachev was not this slamdunk defensive juggernaut... There were questions about his play in his own zone and to be honest he's still not amazing in his own zone.

It was a pretty fair trade at the time in terms of value.

Too bad Drouin shit the bed.

He wasn't a surefire slam dunk but I was really high on him I suppose, and looks like I was right.

 

[The Real Timo]

It’s beyond me how people can pick Gomer trade when we got the Great Tom Pyatt in it.

 

[Vachon23]

In retrospect, Subban-McDonagh-Markov playing a few years together in Montreal would indeed have been awesome.

At the time however, even if I despised the trade because of the targeted asset, I could at least understand that the Habs were leveraging a quality prospect from their deepest position (LHD) to acquire a "proven" top-6 C. Not unlike what the Habs will have to do (less misguidedly of course, one hopes!) within the next couple of years with their overflowing D pipeline.

Whereas I never understood the reasoning behing trading away Sergachev: not only was the LHD cupboard barren at the time, but the target - another winger! - was not filling any of the Habs' most dire need; a catastrophic asset-management endeavour from the outset.

And the thought of having Sergachev on Montreal's side instead of Tampa Bay's during the 2021 Stanley Cup final* is not too shabby either, if only for a few weeks.

Chiarot- Weber
Sergachev- Petry
Edmundson - Romanov/Kulak

*Not that I think of it, if having McDonagh on Montreal's side instead of New York's somehow prevents Price's injury from occuring during the Eastern Conference in 2014, then I'm ready to concede and put the McDonagh ahead of Sergachev as worst trade!

Agree with that

At the end of the day, if Daniel Briere sign in 2007, Gainey is not making the Gomez trade and there is less urgency to acquired a talented QC born player since we would had Briere for many years

 

[ZUKI]

I don't agree. When the trade took place, I hated it, as Subban was a Norris winner, younger, and just plain fun to watch play. However, calling the trade a disaster really is a disservice to Weber. He was a rock defensively and provided leadership. Seeing how PK's body broke down prematurely, the trade actually ended up being pretty even.

Sorry but i don't buy this "body broken down prematurely" to justify that the trade wasn't that bad in the end.

Subban has always trained to be stronger, and because of that, he was more and more heavy, so he was slower. Yes he had injuries, but i think that Webber got 10 x more injuries then Subban, and i think that his last run during the playoffs, the nature of all his injuries, were far away more serious and painful.

In no way, this trade has been bad. It's a total win if you also count the leadership of Webber, his devotion, instead of the "look at me" shows Subban was doing. One day, Subban will be well-know for his medias career, not for his hockey career. The "Subban corner" where he will wear extravagant clothings

 

[JianYang]

We gave a lot for Gomez when it was a cap dump by NYR. That's not even a bad trade like Drouin was at the end, it was pure bad assets and cap space management.

To put things in perspective, gomez's contract ate 14.7% of the salary cap at the time of signing. Thats even higher than Price's current deal at inception, and more than double that of Drouin's deal at inception.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Weber for Subban was a joke
Subban was at the top while we traded him. He was everything the fans wanted. Superstar , Great with fans , amazing with the community , playoff warrior. Amazing to watch. Give a reason to visit the bell center.

Then we traded him for a guy that was starting on his decline.

Habs refused crazy offers (google Subban trade that were refused if u wanna know) , example Draisailt.

Weber did not make us a better team at the present or at long term. Please don't bring the stupid ''Leadership'' .

The Gomez and Sergachev were both bad but the Subban trade did absolutely nothing to us except getting older while Price had to do everything with or without Weber.

You can call me a troll all you want , because i have a diferent opinion than urs don't make you god amighty on this forum and the voice of reason

Subbing actually declined faster than Weber despite being younger. The trade may have served little purpose but it wasn’t a bad trade. It was even IMO.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Less popular opinion = bad .
People called me out for hating Bergevin for 5 years just to realized in 2021 that he was a clown and my argument was fine.
People called me out on the Armia re-signing thread , couldn't care less was right again.


Like I care about the major opinion not being mine.
Not because a TV show is rated 97% and that I hate the show makes my opinion bad.

It’s all relative. If you can name me one coach of GM of the Canadiens you liked in the last 20 years I can point to the fact that at some point they were let go.

If you like Hughes for example I can say he’s shit. In 5-10 years he’ll be fired and I’ll look right.

It’s a lot harder to make positive predictions than negative ones.

Example: choosing a team to win Stanley cup is harder than choosing a team to not win.

 

[G0bias]

Sergachev is the most valuable asset here, by a considerable amount.
Dmen like him are extremely rare, Tampa would get a king's ransom.

So Gomez's 1.8M more than Drouin certainly doesn't make it worse.

 

[Vachon23]

Sergachev is the most valuable asset here, by a considerable amount.
Dmen like him are extremely rare, Tampa would get a king's ransom.

So Gomez's 1.8M more than Drouin certainly doesn't make it worse.

I’m taking prime McDonagh before Sergachev personally

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Subbing actually declined faster than Weber despite being younger. The trade may have served little purpose but it wasn’t a bad trade. It was even IMO.

Easy to tell after years , that Subban had multiple back injuries who made him regress but saying he declined faster than Weber i don't think that's true. Weber was broken before the ''covid'' season and to be honest his decline was already happening in Nashville.. For a such an impacful trade ,w e did not get nothing worthwhile of the value of peek Suban in my opinion.

 

[G0bias]

I’m taking prime McDonagh before Sergachev personally

What's wild is Sergachev just turned 25. His career will eclipse McDonagh's, if it hasn't already.

Bergevin f***ed up

 

[Pickles]

I mean if you're choosing an option that 98% don't agree with it may be time to reevaluate your position...

98% is a tad high. I hated that trade and still do. Never felt the same attachment to Weber that I did to Subban. I grudgingly grew to respect Weber after the Covid cup run but I never liked him. It was a lateral move that didn't really move the needle in fact the team got worse when Weber was on the Habs.

I think the Sergachev for Drouin trade was short sighted and desperate. Thank God Bargainbin isnt the GM still. He probably would have traded Caufield and Hutson for PLD or something stupid.

 

[HabsCowboysOwn]

The trade that pissed me off the most when it happened is Subban/Weber, in retrospect it turned out better than I thought it would. It's still a moronic, useless trade that didn't move the needle for us and happened for all the wrong reasons though.

Gomez/McDonagh and Drouin/Sergachev are by far the worst on this list but Drouin for 6 years hurts more than Gomez for 3 years so I voted for the latter.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Easy to tell after years , that Subban had multiple back injuries who made him regress but saying he declined faster than Weber i don't think that's true. Weber was broken before the ''covid'' season and to be honest his decline was already happening in Nashville.. For a such an impacful trade ,w e did not get nothing worthwhile of the value of peek Suban in my opinion.

There is an old saying in hockey: it’s better to trade a player one year too early than one year too late. In Subban’s case, we traded him several years too late. Once he decided to bulk up, he lost the dynamic skating ability that made him one of league’s best and most exciting players. He was unable to avoid the forecheck and was often reduced to just flipping the puck out of our zone. With the loss of his mobility, he became a largely static playe, and it was the reason he was rarely chosen for Team Canada. We traded one diminishing asset for another. The delay in trading Subban robbed us of an opportunity to maximize our return on a well established reputation.