World Junior Championships Thread - Garand, Othmann, Cuylle win GOLD!

[Roo Returns]

McTavish scored ties the game. He will be a good player for the Ducks.

Othmann with the assist after the faceoff win


IIHF says Seeley gets an assist. That has to be wrong

Kent Johnson wow. This kid will be a solid player for the Bluejackets

btw can they play better music than the Red Hot Chili Peppers

2-1 Canada

play The Interrupters or Beastie Boys or Pennywise, Green Day, Rancid etc

What's wrong with RHCP?

You gotta remember that they're hot now (no pun intended), they have a new album out, are in the middle of a the US Leg of their tour, and have another album coming out in October.

The other bands you mentioned are not currently active, or not that big (Interrupters).

They've been playing RHCP at the Garden forever, so it's not that uncommon.

I'm a little surprised Interrupters aren't bigger. I remember the first time hearing both Janelle Monae and then later Greta Van Fleet at Rangers games and being impressed (the later it's a shame they never recaptured their debut EP magic).

 

[RangersFan1994]

What's wrong with RHCP?

You gotta remember that they're hot now (no pun intended), they have a new album out, are in the middle of a the US Leg of their tour, and have another album coming out in October.

The other bands you mentioned are not currently active, or not that big (Interrupters).

They've been playing RHCP at the Garden forever, so it's not that uncommon.

I'm a little surprised Interrupters aren't bigger. I remember the first time hearing both Janelle Monae and then later Greta Van Fleet at Rangers games and being impressed (the later it's a shame they never recaptured their debut EP magic).

Pennywise, Green Day, Rancid are still very much active. The Interrupters just released a new album which is awesome. I just saw them with Flogging Molly and this awesome band called The Skints. Im seeing Chris Webby (underground rap) and Sum 41 2 different concerts later this month.. I just saw Less Than Jake Aquabats and Bowling For Soup one show about a month ago. Back to Green Day, they just played for some festival and played in Chicago and been in Europe recently. They are working on a new album.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Rangers Core in four years?

 

[chosen]

 

[Roo Returns]

Pennywise, Green Day, Rancid are still very much active. The Interrupters just released a new album which is awesome. I just saw them with Flogging Molly and this awesome band called The Skints. Im seeing Chris Webby (underground rap) and Sum 41 2 different concerts later this month.. I just saw Less Than Jake Aquabats and Bowling For Soup one show about a month ago. Back to Green Day, they just played for some festival and played in Chicago and been in Europe recently. They are working on a new album.

I live The Skints. Swimming Lessons is a very dark album. I definitely have a crush on Marcia but so does the rest of the world lol.

All those bands you mentioned are active of course, but RHCP is actively touring a new album.

Green Day is one of those bands that always has songs in hockey arenas. When their new album is out, we'll hear more. Same with the Foo Fighters. When they release new music in the wake of Taylor's passing, it'll be everywhere.

 

[RangerBoy]

Did Cameron really bench Berard and Othmann? Cameron was intent from the start of the game with playing the matching game. Are the Finns the 1984-85 Edmonton Oilers? Canada was pinned in their zone until the Othmann goal. Garand saved their butts from being down in the first 6 minutes of the game. Cameron used McTavish in a defensive role. Finland couldn't contain Canada'a forwards. Cameron decides to protect a 5-1 lead. Mike Johnson questioned that philosophy in the first period when he saw what Cameron was doing. It would be hard to get players in the flow and rhythm. The line combinations are all mixed up. Sometimes just roll your lines and play in Finland's zone is the best defensive posture. Your best defense is your offense.

Othmann doesn't play on the PP or PK.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Did Cameron really bench Berard and Othmann? Cameron was intent from the start of the game with playing the matching game. Are the Finns the 1984-85 Edmonton Oilers? Canada was pinned in their zone until the Othmann goal. Garand saved their butts from being down in the first 6 minutes of the game. Cameron used McTavish in a defensive role. Finland couldn't contain Canada'a forwards. Cameron decides to protect a 5-1 lead. Mike Johnson questioned that philosophy in the first period when he saw what Cameron was doing. It would be hard to get players in the flow and rhythm. The line combinations are all mixed up. Sometimes just roll your lines and play in Finland's zone is the best defensive posture. Your best defense is your offense.

Othmann doesn't play on the PP or PK.

With 10 minutes to go in the 2nd period, up 5-1, Cameron benched both Bedard and Othmann, yes. Initially, it started with just creating favourable match-ups. The 3rd line matched up against Aatu Räty but Ridly Greig was on the ice for a while, and Finland's coach put Räty out there.

Cameron responded, by having McTavish (Who centered Othmann and Bedard) play with Cuylle (4th line) and Gauncher (13th forward). That threw off all the lines. Ostapchuk and Desnoyers ended up playing with Foerster and Roy was playing with Dufour and Johnson. It was a mess.

Bedard got a few seconds on the PP late in the 2nd, but other than that, he was glued to the bench. Canada deserved to lose with this David Quinn-type coaching. They're lucky Finland didn't capitalize on all the PPs at the end of the game.

 

[RangerBoy]

With 10 minutes to go in the 2nd period, up 5-1, Cameron benched both Bedard and Othmann, yes. Initially, it started with just creating favourable match-ups. The 3rd line matched up against Aatu Räty but Ridly Greig was on the ice for a while, and Finland's coach put Räty out there.

Cameron responded, by having McTavish (Who centered Othmann and Bedard) play with Cuylle (4th line) and Gauncher (13th forward). That threw off all the lines. Ostapchuk and Desnoyers ended up playing with Foerster and Roy was playing with Dufour and Johnson. It was a mess.

Bedard got a few seconds on the PP late in the 2nd, but other than that, he was glued to the bench. Canada deserved to lose with this David Quinn-type coaching. They're lucky Finland didn't capitalize on all the PPs at the end of the game.

Cameron was intent on matchups from the very start of the game. He has the best team in the tournament and he is worried about Raty. He was too concerned trying to protect a 5-1 lead instead of making it a 6-1 or 7-1 lead. He has the best team. Roll your four lines. They will score 8 goals against Finland.

 

[MrAlmost]

It just reminds me of Kerlon's foquinha.

Had to look that up. Yeah, similar.

 

[chosen]

Criticizing coaches who win because they didn't win by more is inane. If the style he's playing is stupid, it will catch up to him. If that happens, criticism would at least make sense.

 

[SickNice]

Criticizing coaches who win because they didn't win by more is inane. If the style he's playing is stupid, it will catch up to him. If that happens, criticism would at least make sense.

Very logical. And in these tournaments, where you don't have the benefit of a team being together for 20, 30, 40+ games together, there is a benefit to using the situation as real-time practice for the group. I'd wager he wasn't thinking about blowing away Finland but about how he wants them to play with a lead for later match-ups with teams like the US.

 

[bhamill]

Criticizing coaches who win because they didn't win by more is inane. If the style he's playing is stupid, it will catch up to him. If that happens, criticism would at least make sense.

Weird, I think criticizing bad coaching, whether they win or lose a game (they should have done even better in,) is perfectly fine, warranted and logical.
We criticize players for making bad defensive plays even when it doesn't lead to a goal against, never mind a loss, we criticize bad penalties taken even if the team scores shorthanded.
Of COURSE it makes sense to criticize bad coaching even if they win.

 

[JimmyG89]

Very logical. And in these tournaments, where you don't have the benefit of a team being together for 20, 30, 40+ games together, there is a benefit to using the situation as real-time practice for the group. I'd wager he wasn't thinking about blowing away Finland but about how he wants them to play with a lead for later match-ups with teams like the US.

Or he is trying to get a look at the guys on the lower lines like Cuylle and Gauncher since he knows he may need them at some point. Not every game is going to be ideal. You may need to switch up the lines and knowing if those guys can play up is a big deal.

When the QF begin, Othmann-McTavish-Bedard will be right back together and playing well, but maybe decisions needed to be made on the lower lines and seeing what those two can do in an elevated role, with what amounts to an NHL player, can be very helpful for the remaining games.

 

[chosen]

Weird, I think criticizing bad coaching, whether they win or lose a game (they should have done even better in,) is perfectly fine, warranted and logical.
We criticize players for making bad defensive plays even when it doesn't lead to a goal against, never mind a loss, we criticize bad penalties taken even if the team scores shorthanded.
Of COURSE it makes sense to criticize bad coaching even if they win.

Then you should be able to define the "bad" coaching. Not trying to run up the score isn't bad coaching.

 

[bhamill]

Then you should be able to define the "bad" coaching. Not trying to run up the score isn't bad coaching.

Really? "Bad" coaching is subjective. I think sitting 2/3rds of your top line to match the other team who aren't threatening (until you make that move) is "bad" coaching, you might think it's genius. It's not a criticism based on "they could have won by more," the result, but of the method. Saying they could have won by more is just an answer to "but they won."
Regardless I didn't argue what was bad coaching, I merely said it was ridiculous logic to say people shouldn't point out bad coaching simply because they won.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I live The Skints. Swimming Lessons is a very dark album. I definitely have a crush on Marcia but so does the rest of the world lol.

All those bands you mentioned are active of course, but RHCP is actively touring a new album.

Green Day is one of those bands that always has songs in hockey arenas. When their new album is out, we'll hear more. Same with the Foo Fighters. When they release new music in the wake of Taylor's passing, it'll be everywhere.

I wonder if Foo Fighters will continue. For some reason I can see them retiring. Taylor was as big to Foo Fighters as Dave is. The Skints are so underrated. I hope to see them headline NYC in the future. i just saw Ballyhoo! about 2 months ago. They always put on a great show. I wanna see The Expendables again. Less Than Jake was amazing like every single time I see those legends.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Then you should be able to define the "bad" coaching. Not trying to run up the score isn't bad coaching.

Changing your lines, benching two of your top-3 forwards only to be then under pressure for 30 minutes and being lucky not to give up more PP goals, so you can drag out a win, is a pretty clear example of bad coaching.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Changing your lines, benching two of your top-3 forwards only to be then under pressure for 30 minutes and being lucky not to give up more PP goals, so you can drag out a win, is a pretty clear example of bad coaching.

Right this isn't a 82 game regular season where you should consider benching your best players to teach them to the play "the right way"

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Sykora's WJC is over, his team didnt make the QR. Tough way to end the WJC considering he was kicked out midway in the last game. Oh well, he'll be back there in Dec.

 

[chosen]

Really? "Bad" coaching is subjective. I think sitting 2/3rds of your top line to match the other team who aren't threatening (until you make that move) is "bad" coaching, you might think it's genius. It's not a criticism based on "they could have won by more," the result, but of the method. Saying they could have won by more is just an answer to "but they won."
Regardless I didn't argue what was bad coaching, I merely said it was ridiculous logic to say people shouldn't point out bad coaching simply because they won.

I still don't understand why what he did is bad coaching. Within a game he felt he couldn't lose, he was trying different things, Because a fan thinks that is defineable as bad coaching doesn't make sense to me.

 

[chosen]

Changing your lines, benching two of your top-3 forwards only to be then under pressure for 30 minutes and being lucky not to give up more PP goals, so you can drag out a win, is a pretty clear example of bad coaching.

The goal is to win the tournament. What a coach does within a single game that was won pretty easily, even if it bothers a fan, isn't a bad thing to me. If he's a bad coach, and maybe he is, it will kill him in the end, but we're not at the end.

 

[RangerBoy]

Cameron was lucky Canada didn’t fall behind in the first period. They could not get out of their zone in the first 6 minutes. It could have been 1-0 or 2-0 and the entire game changes. Cameron will be chasing the game. He has the best team in the tournament. He has the two best players in the tournament. Cameron decides to play the match up game ruining his the flow and rhythm of his team. He calls off the dogs at 5-1 with more than half of the game remaining. His first line didn’t see the ice together as a unit for more then half of the game.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The goal is to win the tournament. What a coach does within a single game that was won pretty easily, even if it bothers a fan, isn't a bad thing to me. If he's a bad coach, and maybe he is, it will kill him in the end, but we're not at the end.

Pretty easily? Did you watch the 3rd period?

 

[chosen]

Pretty easily? Did you watch the 3rd period?

Why is it that so many fans think that they would be a better coach and GM than the ones running their team?

Certainly you could, but the others? Not so much.

Who screwed up? The coach or the players taking penalties?

 

[rangersfansince08]

Why is it that so many fans think that they would be a better coach and GM than the ones running their team?

Certainly you could, but the others? Not so much.

Who screwed up? The coach or the players taking penalties?

did you like the dylan mcilrath mpick?