Who cares? Olympics have prestige in a lot of countries, whereas the world cup especially with a couple of fake teams (NA and Europe) maybe in the dreams of the NHL comissioner.
World cup is better than Olympics
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Who cares? Olympics have prestige in a lot of countries, whereas the world cup especially with a couple of fake teams (NA and Europe) maybe in the dreams of the NHL comissioner.
missingchicklet
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Way better than Olympic hockey. People need to get over themselves and just enjoy the World Cup. No reason to get upset over awesome hockey. Putting all-star teams together and letting them play compelling hockey on ESPN's networks cannot be a bad thing for the sport here in the US. Heck of a good idea to hold this tourney.
And if the NHL pulls out of the olympics and replaces it with the current World Cup concept? I would say that would be bad for international hockey.
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Let's Go Hawks!
I'm enjoying WC more than I ever anticipated - but nowhere near as much as I like watching Olympic hockey.
It would matter a lot, which is why it won't happen. Because the NHL won't risk losing so many European stars a la Ovechkin.
30 million Americans watched the Olympic final in 2010. The ratings will be terrible for this World Cup in comparison to really any Olympic hockey. The Olympics is simply 10x bigger and better exposure for the game. Screw the NHL, hockey is bigger than them.
TLeafsFan
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Right now if you're Canadian and you like hockey. You like just about any international tournament really.
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Let's Go Hawks!
Not necessarily.
For example, I don't regard this tournament as "international hockey" in the same way I would, say, the Olympics (and before 10 of you respond telling me I'm an idiot - i appreciate that my distinction isn't totally logical).
I also have no particular interest in the IIHF World Championships unless I'm really bored.
My preferred international tournaments are Olympics and WJC.
The part where you said i'm Cdn and like hockey is true, though.
Siberian
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Problem with the World Cup is the September form of most players. It's nowhere near February form.
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I merely meant that we win most of them.
sorry i misunderstood. ha ha, you're right then.
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Fragmuffin
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its fun, as anticipated... no where near the Olympis tho
People have a short memory, no best on best international tournaments (which is bad for hockey, therefore losing NHL participation on the Games would be terrible), so everytime it starts a new, people lose their heads.
Keep both, and keep the stucture of teams (yeah... gimmik teams fit the WCoH better)
People have a short memory, no best on best international tournaments (which is bad for hockey, therefore losing NHL participation on the Games would be terrible), so everytime it starts a new, people lose their heads.
Keep both, and keep the stucture of teams (yeah... gimmik teams fit the WCoH better)
BruinLVGA
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Do you realize that NHL hockey isn't shown on European TV channels? What do you think that Ovechkin, Malkin, Karlsson, Datsyuk, Josi, etc etc grew up seeing? The answer is their own leagues + the World Championships + the Olympics.
If it had to be an input from the NHL that made European players passionate enough about hockey to start playing it when they were kids, they would all be playing soccer now.
So yeah, exposure to Olympics (and the World Championships... and all the European pro leagues that are so vilified by many North American folks here) has done plenty for the NHL. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist either to understand that by worsening the product (see forbidding NHL players from going to the Olympics), you are not enticing more folks to be hockey players.
Fragmuffin
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Olympics is the only time a casual SPORTS fan (note: NOT a hockey fan) actually gets in touch with the game. I remember before hockey got profesional in my town, youd either be a fan if you by some miracle picked up the sport in kindergarten OR if you watched the games which were allways broadcasted on national TV.
The winter olympics are not as big as their summer counterpart, but they are still damn big. And hockey is the uncontested no 1 sport for the whole 3 weeks.
The sport can not get a better stage that this.
The winter olympics are not as big as their summer counterpart, but they are still damn big. And hockey is the uncontested no 1 sport for the whole 3 weeks.
The sport can not get a better stage that this.
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True enough. Take last night's NA-Russia game for example, it looked like they were skating around in mud.
If we're comparing to the most recent Olympics, then yeah, I can see why people choose this. That tournament was so anti-climactic coming off of 2010 as Canada was just too good and suffocated their opponents. With such a defence and all that extra room, everything was pushed east-west that it ruined any flow.
Now if we're comparing to the 2002 and 2006 Olympics, I'd take that hockey any day of the week.
Now if we're comparing to the 2002 and 2006 Olympics, I'd take that hockey any day of the week.
Nothing beats the Olympics, there is so much more prestige, history and it's something everyone talks about, not just hockey fans here.
With that said I enjoy World Cup as well, just different things.
With that said I enjoy World Cup as well, just different things.
I think NHL has grown immensly in the last 18 years. Maybe you think it has nothing to do with the Olympics but I would probably not take your word for that.
The Olympic final is massive and draws 10x more viewers than any other hockey game. Having the best NHL players in that game is huge, for the league and the players, especially Euro players who get exposure which raises their value and possible revenue from PR. That is the only reason why participation in south korea is even a question.
The level of competition is higher because of how much talent each team has. There aren't any gimme teams like the Olympics has. But at the end of the day, the Olympics has all the prestige and the stature that the World Cup will never have. It's not on the grandiose stage and the honor of participating in this tournament isn't the same.
However, should the NHL really care? They make money off the World Cup, whereas they don't with the Olympics. The NHL is a business and their biggest interest is generating the league revenue, not the IOC.
However, should the NHL really care? They make money off the World Cup, whereas they don't with the Olympics. The NHL is a business and their biggest interest is generating the league revenue, not the IOC.
