GWT: World Cup - Group F (Morocco and Croatia Advance)

Who Advances?

  • Belgium

    Votes: 72 69.2%
  • Croatia

    Votes: 70 67.3%
  • Morocco

    Votes: 24 23.1%
  • Canada

    Votes: 33 31.7%

  • Total voters
    104

maclean

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Automated offside technology will probably prove to be even less popular than the human refs. Plenty of absurd rulings when you have a machine that can only judge the situation based on the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law.

Even with the fancy graphic it looked like they were completely level, you would need a computer analysis of the computer analysis to see it :laugh:
 

NyQuil

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Satan

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Herdman gotta go.

Thank you for bringing us this far, but if we want to reach another level, we need a next level manager. He has been a good cheerleader/recruiter, now, we need a real tactician with credibility to continue the job.

And, obviously, better development, especially defenders and midfielders.

jeez your tune changed real quick

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you have to wonder how different this group looks if Canada beats Belgium. Felt losing that game and Herdman’s Howard Dean moment ruined that team; but if they would have (deservedly) won, Canada May have had something to play for today. But of a shame, but that Belgium game ripped their heart out
 
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hatterson

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Herdman gotta go.

Thank you for bringing us this far, but if we want to reach another level, we need a next level manager. He has been a good cheerleader/recruiter, now, we need a real tactician with credibility to continue the job.

Sure, but also does tactics prevent a defender from weakly rolling it back to your keeper and then your keeper weakly passing it straight to an opposition attack? Or does it prevent your keeper letting in a near post shot when the defender had done well enough to push the attacker out wide?

Again, not disagreeing that tactics have been lacking, but if Canada had a keeper that was even at the level of a mid table top flight team in any of the big European leagues, it's still 0-0.
 

Satan

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This team is doing what they can with these defenders. They aren't pretty to watch, but I still love them
 

TheMoreYouKnow

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Even with the fancy graphic it looked like they were completely level, you would need a computer analysis of the computer analysis to see it :laugh:
It's because they count the shoulder as a body part that can be used for scoring, so the shoulder can be offside, but of course when the tip of the shoulder is offside by 0.5 cm that is completely irrelevant to the play itself.

This is what happens when bureaucrats decide these things who only care about things being 'technically correct' not whether it's actually good for the game.
 

varsaku

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Herdman gotta go.

Thank you for bringing us this far, but if we want to reach another level, we need a next level manager. He has been a good cheerleader/recruiter, now, we need a real tactician with credibility to continue the job.

And, obviously, better development, especially defenders and midfielders.
I don't think he is the problem. We just lack depth in many positions that will only take time to develop players for them. We are heading in the right direction and are definitely improving from where we were even 10 years ago. We just need patience.
 
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maclean

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you have to wonder how different this group looks if Canada beats Belgium. Felt losing that game and Herdman’s Howard Dean moment ruined that team; but if they would have (deservedly) won, Canada May have had something to play for today. But of a shame, but that Belgium game ripped their heart out

You think with a win he wouldn't have made those comments and stuck his foot in his mouth? Honestly it would've been huge, but I don't think these latter two games would've gone any different as a result. It would be a bit heartbreaking getting the 3 points and not going through, but it wouldve been huge to have a WC win

It's because they count the shoulder as a body part that can be used for scoring, so the shoulder can be offside, but of course when the tip of the shoulder is offside by 0.5 cm that is completely irrelevant to the play itself.

This is what happens when bureaucrats decide these things who only care about things being 'technically correct' not whether it's actually good for the game.

Where they count the shoulder is a bit weird but the main thing is, in the graphic, the two arms look essentially parallel, it's so tight the eye still can't see it.
 

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jeez your tune changed real quick

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Yes, he lost me in the last week or so.

As I said, very good motivator. The program needed him at that point in time and he did what he had to do. After seeing how we were unable to adjust against Croatia and his choices today, I think we need another manager to reach the next level.

Obviously, that won't be enough as we need better defenders and more depth in midfield.
 

hatterson

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I think the comments were overblown. It's not like Croatia came out and stomped Canada from the get go. Canada were the better team for the first 10-15 minutes. Then Croatia's midfield took over and it was a spanking.

If Croatia was truly motivated/upset with the comments it wouldn't have taken then 15 minutes to get going.
 

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You think with a win he wouldn't have made those comments and stuck his foot in his mouth? Honestly it would've been huge, but I don't think these latter two games would've gone any different as a result. It would be a bit heartbreaking getting the 3 points and not going through, but it wouldve been huge to have a WC win
I’m saying with a win, his comments would have mattered less; or maybe he doesn’t feel the need to say it. That was his Howard Dean scream. Didn’t work out for Dean either and that’s all I could think of at the time. 3 points would have given them a chance to go through today; it’s clear they are just going through the motions knowing they are already out.

I do think this is an attractive national team job for the next guy though. Things will be looking up for Canada
 

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I think the comments were overblown. It's not like Croatia came out and stomped Canada from the get go. Canada were the better team for the first 10-15 minutes. Then Croatia's midfield took over and it was a spanking.

If Croatia was truly motivated/upset with the comments it wouldn't have taken then 15 minutes to get going.
The comment is nothing. Tabloid fodder at best. It made us look like clowns, but it is certainly not the reason why we lost.

We lost because they adjusted and we could not counter-adjust. And, well, we also lost because we refused to sub off a geriatric player who could not follow the pace (love Atiba, but him not coming off at half time, even with Eustaquio's injury, was stupid af). And, most importantly, we lost because Croatia is just plain better.
 

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