WJC TSN Deappreciation Thread

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Metallian said:
6 - The bashing of Lemtyugov
~P-Mac
Why: Who cares that he wears #66 in the RSL, it's not like he's not allowed to, Lemieux's never even played in the RSL so whats the deal? Noone can wear #66 ANYWHERE?
Who cares that he has white skates? Is he a fashion critic now?
Who cares that his nickname is "Lemieux"? He wears 66 and both have last names that start with LEM, I think that's a reasonable nickname...Jeez!

That's got to be the worst Pierre rant yet. Newsflash Pierre: not everyone in the world cares about the NHL. And it's not like Lemieux's number is league-wide retired there either.

I think it would be sweet if various European teams had guys wearing 66 and 99 during the Olympics just to irk guys like McGuire.
 
Metallian said:
6 - The bashing of Lemtyugov
~P-Mac
Why: Who cares that he wears #66 in the RSL, it's not like he's not allowed to, Lemieux's never even played in the RSL so whats the deal? Noone can wear #66 ANYWHERE?
Who cares that he has white skates? Is he a fashion critic now?
Who cares that his nickname is "Lemieux"? He wears 66 and both have last names that start with LEM, I think that's a reasonable nickname...Jeez!
:biglaugh: :biglaugh:
 
GregStack said:
3- I agree, I don't need to hear it all the time, but it's not a reason to hate TSN.

What about reason number four: Pierre Macguire killed my father.

News for you, Luke, You don't know the truth about your father.


What does annoy me about TSN is hearing them go on an on about how wonderful everyone on Canada is....even in intermisssion/ games where Canada isn't playing.
 
Epsilon said:
That's got to be the worst Pierre rant yet. Newsflash Pierre: not everyone in the world cares about the NHL. And it's not like Lemieux's number is league-wide retired there either.

I think it would be sweet if various European teams had guys wearing 66 and 99 during the Olympics just to irk guys like McGuire.

Yeah...good grief. He's ragging on some kid who inexplicably idolized Lemieux while growing up in Russia. Why not pick on Malkin for wearing 17 like Khamalov instead?
 
All this complaining...be glad that they brought us this tournament, unlike most other countries in the world.

Metallian said:
Without flaming or personal stabs, what are some things that are just ruining the entire presentation of this tournament?
(I know theres a thread about TSN making it unwatchable, but thats mostly about the referees)

1. "That's what happens when you admire your pass!"
~P-Mac
Why: The guy just got charged/interfered, center ice. Why make excuses for the Canadian players who are crossing the line?

2. "Steve Downie threw Johnson off his game in the USA matchup"
~P-Mac
Why: Johnson got player of the game....how is that throwing someone off his game? If anything Downie made Johnson better!

3. The constant sob-story for Cam Barker and how he had Mono'
~Various
Why: He had mono for cryin' out loud! They are making him out like he survived leukemia! I had mono last year, lasted a week, it's a bit worse than a flu but its nothing to be making TSN headlines about. Give me a break.

Feel free to add what's ticking you off so far in this tournament.
(note: I hope this thread doesn't cross the rules. I'm trying to make no personal prejudices expressed, just board member opinions)

Uncase you have noticed Candian media and Canadian fans treat this tournament like the Americans treat thier College Football Bowl Season or how europeans treat the under 21 world cup.

Anything to do with team Canada is a huge story for the Canadian media.
 
revolverjgw said:
I thought Miller and McGuire were going to come to blows yesterday during the Sweden/Finland game, arguing about Yzerman's sweater being retired for this Olympics.
That was hillarious. :biglaugh:

The thing that bugs me is that they are always talking about Canada, but never saying anything. They never show the highlights from other games and when they go back to Gino Reda at the intermissions its just some cliche garbage segment about how this is 'Brent Sutters team' and therefore all the players work hard and play as a team. And its the same crap every year.
 
All i can say to people who don't like wha tthey hear about McGuire or during the intermissions...

Just imagine what it would be like if it were Don Cherry.
 
Metallian said:
I'm largely Anti-Downie so bear with me, but I think Downie projects to be a good 3rd line grit guy. I see a dirtier Darcy Tucker, who has the possibility to become a locker room cancer, but still be valueable on the ice.

Sean Avery??

No way. The players in Windsor loved him and when the incident between he and Aliu happened, most stuck with him. Aliu has said many times that the players in the dressing room won't talk to him, although that probably has just as much to do with his own issues of arrogance.
 
I think that those of you who are complaining about the extra coverage need to remember a few things:

1. Outside of Canada, most of the rest of the world doesn't give a hoot about this tournament. In Canada, it's absolutely huge. If you don't believe this, why do you think it's going to be played here so frequently? We come out in droves to see all the games, selling out all that Canada is involved in and have huge numbers for the rest. When it's held elsewhere, there are always a lot of Canadians in the crowd...and a lot of empty seats.

2. It's a Canadian network. They get record numbers because people want to see and hear about Canada. So what if they were talking about Canada during the U.S.-Russia game? There was only one hour between the end of Canada's game and the start of that game and everyone in Canada was still buzzing about it. Don't ya think we'd want to hear more about it?

3. So many Americans are complaining because they are CHL fans but aren't getting any coverage. If I was American, I would hope for any scrap of info I'd get. I don't know what the coverage is like for the rest of the world but I'm guessing there aren't many games shown live overseas, using their own networks. Based on the lack of popularity of the tourney, I'm guessing TSN/RDS are the only ones covering it. If your countries cared as much about this tourney as we do, you'd have your own network with your own supposed biases, and you wouldn't be complaining about TSN!

4. As for the biases, I don't think these guys love the Canadian team as much as some say they do. Pouliot has been talked about badly by pretty much every analyst. Same with Latendresse. They love Staal, Parent, Downie and Sutter and there's good reason for it, all of these guys are doing exactly what we expected them to, and then some. So many people questioned Downie's inclusion with the team, but he, along with Pogge, has been the MVP. He doesn't have the pure talent of some of the others, but he leaves everything on the ice. Sutter has gone from coaching a team of stars to a very young team, and has done amazing things with this group. Staal and Parent have been excellent throughout, barely making a mistake. These two are part of the reason Pogge has looked so good, they aren't giving the other teams the opportunity to get a lot of shots. So basically, the players who have done good things are praised, the ones who haven't lived up to expectations aren't. Last night they repeatedly came down on the guys taking faceoffs because Finland was winning them.

End of rant! :yo:
 
Metallian said:
6 - The bashing of Lemtyugov
~P-Mac
Why: Who cares that he wears #66 in the RSL, it's not like he's not allowed to, Lemieux's never even played in the RSL so whats the deal? Noone can wear #66 ANYWHERE?
Who cares that he has white skates? Is he a fashion critic now?
Who cares that his nickname is "Lemieux"? He wears 66 and both have last names that start with LEM, I think that's a reasonable nickname...Jeez!

Yeah, jeez. What are these commentator's doing joking about stuff during a hockey broadcast!!!!!

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Woof said:
No way. The players in Windsor loved him and when the incident between he and Aliu happened, most stuck with him. Aliu has said many times that the players in the dressing room won't talk to him, although that probably has just as much to do with his own issues of arrogance.

Arrogance? I'm surprised he hasn't filed a lawsuit against the team/league for what happened. He has every right to separate himself from those players after what happened.
 
Metallian said:
They have a monopoly on it dude...

I do believe you are choosing to watch it still--unless Pierre is holding a gun to your head.

EDIT: Truth is that TSN doesn't disgust you enough not to watch, so you're the one putting yourself through listening to those guys. Nobody else.
 
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GregStack said:
I do believe you are choosing to watch it still--unless Pierre is holding a gun to your head.

EDIT: Truth is that TSN doesn't disgust you enough not to watch, so you're the one putting yourself through listening to those guys. Nobody else.

I have no other options though. I want to watch hockey.

My love for hockey is stronger than my hate for Mcguire, so it's not that I'm choosing to listen to them, but rather I am FORCED to endure him while I watch hockey. And don't say I should mute it because I want to still hear Gord Miller's playbyplay.
 
Metallian said:
I have no other options though. I want to watch hockey.

My love for hockey is stronger than my hate for Mcguire, so it's not that I'm choosing to listen to them, but rather I am FORCED to endure him while I watch hockey. And don't say I should mute it because I want to still hear Gord Miller's playbyplay.

haha, well if you want to listen to gord then you'll have to listen to pierre. You're stuck with them so you may as well learn to live with it if you want to watch. That's what you're going to get for the near future.
 
There's a reason they never show highlights from the other games: All the other games start at 7 p.m. Vancouver time. The Canada game starts at 4 p.m., because TSN wants the games to start early for the Eastern audiences. (A minor gripe of mine earlier in the thread, but TSN owes this tournament nothing).

As for McGuire: yes, he can be grating, and I can't stand his hyperbole. Dustin Boyd is not Steve Larmer, Toews is not Trottier, and Kessel is not a blend of LaFontaine and Hull. But I do admire the man's passion, energy and love for the game, and he can do a good job of dissecting the game when he wants to.

As stated before, can't think of a more mutually beneficial relationship than the one between TSN and the WJC. TSN gets better ratings for the WJC than anything else. The WJC wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is in Canada without TSN. (Well, TSN and that brawl with the USSR in 1987). My generation has been brought up on the WJC on TSN in late December and early January, and frankly, I'm thankful.
 
God Bless Canada said:
There's a reason they never show highlights from the other games: All the other games start at 7 p.m. Vancouver time. The Canada game starts at 4 p.m., because TSN wants the games to start early for the Eastern audiences. (A minor gripe of mine earlier in the thread, but TSN owes this tournament nothing).

As for McGuire: yes, he can be grating, and I can't stand his hyperbole. Dustin Boyd is not Steve Larmer, Toews is not Trottier, and Kessel is not a blend of LaFontaine and Hull. But I do admire the man's passion, energy and love for the game, and he can do a good job of dissecting the game when he wants to.

As stated before, can't think of a more mutually beneficial relationship than the one between TSN and the WJC. TSN gets better ratings for the WJC than anything else. The WJC wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is in Canada without TSN. (Well, TSN and that brawl with the USSR in 1987). My generation has been brought up on the WJC on TSN in late December and early January, and frankly, I'm thankful.

I used to like McGuire when he first started at TSN as a studio analyst, where he style is effective and can he taken in smaller doses. In fact now he shows up on OLN during intermissions and does a decent job. But as a colour commentator he's just way too loud, prone to yelling and rants, and always wants to talk about things unrelated to the game at hand. It would be like if the guys from PTI started doing cc at football or basketball games.

I agree with all your general comments about the WJC/TSN relationship though.
 
Metallian said:
I have no other options though. I want to watch hockey.

My love for hockey is stronger than my hate for Mcguire, so it's not that I'm choosing to listen to them, but rather I am FORCED to endure him while I watch hockey. And don't say I should mute it because I want to still hear Gord Miller's playbyplay.

I know what you mean in regards to your love of hockey being greater than your hate of Macguire, it's kind of like if the Oakland Raiders were on TV, but only on the Latin network. I'd still watch it, but I'd hate to listen to the commentary (mainly because I'd have no idea what they were saying).

The truth of it is though, that TSN is covering the tournament for Canadian fans, who want to hear about everything Canadian, and only the bare neccesities for the other teams. TSN is giving the public what they want (in general).
 
GregStack said:
I know what you mean in regards to your love of hockey being greater than your hate of Macguire, it's kind of like if the Oakland Raiders were on TV, but only on the Latin network. I'd still watch it, but I'd hate to listen to the commentary (mainly because I'd have no idea what they were saying).

The truth of it is though, that TSN is covering the tournament for Canadian fans, who want to hear about everything Canadian, and only the bare neccesities for the other teams. TSN is giving the public what they want (in general).

True.

But still, although it is reasonable for the coverage to be slated more on the Canadian angle, they should still at least provice an unbiased broadcast. I mean my dad wants Team Canada to win and even he can't stand the bias; and I'm sure from the look of this thread I'm not in the minority.

I feel when international tournaments are in play, considering Canada is such a large and multicultural nation, that other nations competing a least get a fair analysis by the broadcasters. A lot of people watching are hockey fans and want to know how the other nations are doing and how the upcoming stars from Europe look for a couple weeks a year, and not just the Canadians we get to hear about 365 days a year.
 
The whining in this thread is worse than anything McGuire has said. The only thing he's guilty of is talking too much, and many in this thread seem to have the same problem.

At least he's got a clue as to what he's talking about... ;)
 
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