WJC Gold Medal GDT: Canada vs. Russia

[firebear331]

Congratulations

Congratulations team Canada, finally a coach who would not let the boys sit back and it paid off with one dominating performance after another. Alot of people predicted Canada would not win, they only looked good due to a weaker pool. They proved beyond a doubt that this year they are far superior to any of the other teams in this tournament. it would not have mattered who they faced in the final the result would have been the same,one sided domination simply put men playing with boys.

 

[Legolas]

Do you know exactly what his injury is? I think not. What if he is out there with a separated shoulder(I head it was a shoulder injury)? You are making it sound like he got a little scratch and couldnt take it.

It was too bad that Ovechkin could not finish the game. Even though he didn't play long enough to make any plays, his presence was obvious and he drew constant attention of course. I have a hard time questioning a player's injury...everyone has different pain tolerances and while I respect a player like Koivu for playing with injured ribs, I'm not going to knock Ovechkin just because it seems like he wasn't hit that hard...an injury is an injury...until there's more information, I don't think we can pass judgment, it's too easy to just assume he was faking/quitting...we don't know for sure...Ovechkin may be a showoff sometimes, but he's obviously passionate about playing for Russia and it doesn't seem to me like he would just quit on his team...blowout or not, it makes sense that he'd rather play...

 

[Chaos]

It was too bad that Ovechkin could not finish the game. Even though he didn't play long enough to make any plays, his presence was obvious and he drew constant attention of course. I have a hard time questioning a player's injury...everyone has different pain tolerances and while I respect a player like Koivu for playing with injured ribs, I'm not going to knock Ovechkin just because it seems like he wasn't hit that hard...an injury is an injury...until there's more information, I don't think we can pass judgment, it's too easy to just assume he was faking/quitting...we don't know for sure...Ovechkin may be a showoff sometimes, but he's obviously passionate about playing for Russia and it doesn't seem to me like he would just quit on his team...blowout or not, it makes sense that he'd rather play...

Agreed. Can't pass judgement until you know exactly what it is.

 

[Aaron Vickers]

I think the problem with people believing Ovechkin's injury is due to the fact that no Canadian player landed a devistating hit on Ovechkin.

Rather, Ovechkin was hit every time he had the puck, by everyone from Phaneuf to Richards to Bergeron. Ovechkin took at least a dozen 'solid' bodychecks, shoulder to shoulder.

I know I probably wouldn't be able to take that kind of repeated blow from guys who stand at least 6' and weigh over 200lbs.

Ovechkin wanted nothing more then to beat the Canadians. I'll believe in his effort, even though I am EXTERMELY happy to see Canada with the gold.

Props to the Russian players, but CONGRATS to Team Canada.

Thanks for a memorable tournament, boys.

 

[Air]

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

Not that I'm trying to make your story seem negligible, but I'm a Sens fan in Toronto. I've had worse ... beer, taunting, gestures, road rage ... you just shouldn't go against the grain in Toronto, hockey-wise, if you don't want to be ostracized.

 

[Julia]

Not that I'm trying to make your story seem negligible, but I'm a Sens fan in Toronto. I've had worse ... beer, taunting, gestures, road rage

Now, THAT I am not surprised at..
Just look at my avtar..

 

[I Hate You All*]

Not that I'm trying to make your story seem negligible, but I'm a Sens fan in Toronto. I've had worse ... beer, taunting, gestures, road rage ... you just shouldn't go against the grain in Toronto, hockey-wise, if you don't want to be ostracized.

If only Leafs fans were treated like that in Vancouver.

The only fans that are actually verbally abused and beaten up here are from Calgary.

 

[SirSamofHouseBennett]

Pierre Maguire...Every hit by Russia was a cheapshot, everytime a player went down it was a dive.

this either a lie or selective memory. a russian dman nailed phaneuf and pierre gave him great props and compared him to kasperitus.

so what, who cares what PM says anyhow. the game is on the ice.

and besides, at least Maguire isnt Harry Neale.

dr

 

[ILUVTHISGAME]

What I found simply fantastic this whole tournament, was the Canadian fan turn-out at the games. Every game Team Canada played had loads of Team Canada fans in the stands cheering the boys on. Hockey is truly alive and loved by Canadians.

Congratulations Team Canada!
Thank you team Canada Fans for making watching the games on TV that much more enjoyable!

 

[Epsilon]

and besides, at least Maguire isnt Harry Neale.

dr

That's like saying at least cancer isn't AIDS...

 

[Leafer4Life]

Not that I'm trying to make your story seem negligible, but I'm a Sens fan in Toronto. I've had worse ... beer, taunting, gestures, road rage ... you just shouldn't go against the grain in Toronto, hockey-wise, if you don't want to be ostracized.

Being a sens fan in T.O. must be hell..........

 

[Tuggy]

Congrats boys, way to bring home the final piece of hardware to officially crown Canada champions in every major competition

PWNAGE!

 

[Leafer4Life]

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

However, I still wouldn't say that Canadian hockey fans are the scum of the earth or anything like that, because there are lots of classy, intelligent and polite people as well. Some of them here on the boards.

Not that I would do that to you, but what do you expect?!?!?!? You ARE in Canada, and Finland lost. I'd say that was very brave of you to do that. If I'd of been in your shoes, I wouldn't have had the nerve...........

 

[Cawz]

Singing "Na-na Goodbye" with 10 minutes to go? Wow thats classless. No one with a sense of desency can be happy for a team who's fans show such disrespect.

I think this was the funniest post here. How long has this tradition been a part of hockey? If youre insulted by that song, stop watching this sport. Seriously

I think the problem with people believing Ovechkin's injury is due to the fact that no Canadian player landed a devistating hit on Ovechkin.

Rather, Ovechkin was hit every time he had the puck, by everyone from Phaneuf to Richards to Bergeron. Ovechkin took at least a dozen 'solid' bodychecks, shoulder to shoulder.

But if he continues to talk smack when he makes it to the NHL, he better be prepared to watch many 3rd period from the dressing room.

He made a target of himself and was taken out of the game playing with kids. If he's going to pull that **** playing with the big boys...

 

[Vinceee]

Not that I would do that to you, but what do you expect?!?!?!? You ARE in Canada, and Finland lost. I'd say that was very brave of you to do that. If I'd of been in your shoes, I wouldn't have had the nerve...........

The same would happen if i would wear a Canada Jersey during a Hockey Tournament in Finland, come on...

 

[chicpea*]

If anybody wants to accuse Canadians of being classless, just remember 2002 in Russia where the Russians decided to come all the way from their end of the ice to celebrate in front of the Canadian bench, and spit at Canadian players to boot.

Yes, I haven't forgotten that either. Some people around here, though, seem to have short memories.

 

[BCCHL inactive]

Do you know exactly what his injury is? I think not. What if he is out there with a separated shoulder(I head it was a shoulder injury)? You are making it sound like he got a little scratch and couldnt take it.

Brett Hull played the entire 1999 Stanley Cup Finals (6 games) with a completely torn groin. He couldn't walk, yet he battled through it and ended up scoring the Cup Winning Goal. (Please, no crease jokes)

It is that kind of determination that leads teams to championships. Captain Ovechkin didn't lead his team tonight. If he was hurt bad enough that he really couldn't play, he should have sat on the bench with his team.

I know I probably wouldn't be able to take that kind of repeated blow from guys who stand at least 6' and weigh over 200lbs.

Ovechkin is 6'1" , 212 lbs himself, and he is in a lot better physical shape than any of us here. If he can't handle that kind of physical play, he is going to get killed in the NHL.

 

[Julia]

If only Leafs fans were treated like that in Vancouver.

The only fans that are actually verbally abused and beaten up here are from Calgary.

Oh, c'mon...we are good...well, some of us...like me.

 

[Cawz]

Well, you wouldn't believe the 'compliments' that got thrown at me after the World Cup of Hockey final here in Toronto. To honour Team Finland's great run, I decided to walk through downtown Toronto and the celebrating crowd to my flat, wearing Team Finland jersey and with a big flag. It took 45 mins. and I have never been insulted so many times in my life before. Great fans, ganging up on a lone fan of the other team. I was a bit surprised, because Team Canada had won after all.

However, I still wouldn't say that Canadian hockey fans are the scum of the earth or anything like that, because there are lots of classy, intelligent and polite people as well. Some of them here on the boards.

If you go back and read the GDT thread of that final WC game (if its still around), its full of congrats to Finland. Theres a big differnce between drunk mob mentality and real people.

I found mad respect for Finland on this board and in the pub I was in watching game (maybe because everyone in Calgary loves Finlands goalie)

 

[deandebean]

Do you know exactly what his injury is? I think not. What if he is out there with a separated shoulder(I head it was a shoulder injury)? You are making it sound like he got a little scratch and couldnt take it.

Bryan Trottier, Bob Gainey, Ryan Walter, Peter Forsberg...all players that toughed out dislocated shoulders or broken ankles to play in championship games. Looked more to me a player that lacked intestinal fortitude...unless it was a broken collarbone, with which you can't do squat.

 

[MontrealCruiser_83*]

Haha, people who are judging Ovechkin on this have very little hockey knowledge. Like it or not, Ovechkin is *probably* the best drafted prospect in the NHL and he has a very very good career infront of him. He's a keeper.

 

[Julia]

Haha, people who are judging Ovechkin on this have very little hockey knowledge. Like it or not, Ovechkin is *probably* the best drafted prospect in the NHL and he has a very very good career infront of him. He's a keeper.

I sure hope so and wish Alex all the best in the world and lot's of luck. And I do belive that he will be a star in the NHL, but he is still very young and has to learn a thing ot two..

 

[deandebean]

Now Canadians can say they are undisputedly the best hockey nation on earth.

Under 17 World Champs.
Under 20 World Champs.
Men's World Champs.
Women's World Champs.
Olympic Champs.

Hard to believe that in 1998 they had a "What's wrong with Canadian Hockey" Summit.

Life is made of peaks and valleys, and hockey is no exception.This is a peak time, let's hope that we don't get down on our country the next time we are in a valley.

No stranger to the success is the soul searching that was done in 98. Hockey Canada has put more emphasis on skill development, and less on the "intangibles".

 

[Epsilon]

One thing to remember for everyone talking about "playing with injuries". All the players and situations mentioned involve either the Stanley Cup or a major mens world championship. If you were Ovechkin, and you knew you had an injury, would you risk damaging your future pro career for the sake of a junior tournament you've already won before? I sure as hell wouldn't.

 

[deandebean]

Haha, people who are judging Ovechkin on this have very little hockey knowledge. Like it or not, Ovechkin is *probably* the best drafted prospect in the NHL and he has a very very good career infront of him. He's a keeper.

He has talent, for sure. Will he have a very, very good career? We'll see. I remember Alexandrov, who played with the Red Army in the 70's. Was supposed to surpass the great Kharlamov. Eventually, he couldn't carry his jockstrap.

Talent is one thing; getting hammered regularly in the NHL, during a 82 game schedule, THEN playing in the playoffs for 2 months. That takes more than talent. It takes commitment and intestinal fortitude. That is where we separate the good from the legend. We'll see if this wonder will do the job.

Ovechkin is an incredible individual talent. No question. He needs to pick up the rest, now. He's young. He can learn. Tonight, he learned a valuable lesson: never, ever brag and boast with Canadians. They will make you pay. A humbling lesson.

Man, this kid would have trouble playing in Montreal :lol