With hindsight, would you take Cooley over Slaf?

[Breakfast of Champs]

Cooley will get you regular season points, absolutely more than slaf.

Ideally for borh teams, we have a Nichushkin and Cooley is a Huberdeau.

One has a 115 pt season and the other has never hit 70 - but he was the best player in a SCF that featured Mackinnon, Makar , Kucherov, Point etc.

That's my hope at least.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Agreed.

NHL isn't a development league.

Shoulda started in the AHL and worked his way to the big club.



Slaf is on track to be our Danius Zubrus v2.0 at this rate.

Ridiculous. You start the player where you feel they belong. Not to mention when he started the AHL coach was a waste.

 

[Heffyhoof]

Cooley will get you regular season points, absolutely more than slaf.

Ideally for borh teams, we have a Nichushkin and Cooley is a Huberdeau.

One has a 115 pt season and the other has never hit 70 - but he was the best player in a SCF that featured Mackinnon, Makar , Kucherov, Point etc.

That's my hope at least.

Yup, Cooley is gonna be a potential 115 point player and Slaf will likely never score more than 20 extra points than his second season. Do you even take yourself seriously?

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

Yup, Cooley is gonna be a potential 115 point player and Slaf will likely never score more than 20 extra points than his second season. Do you even take yourself seriously?

Nichuskin would have more pts if he was healthy. My point wasn't that cooley was literally Huberdeau and slafkovsky was nichuskin - it's that not all players who post huge regular season totals are better than those who don't for a cup run.

Honestly if Slaf became what Nichuskin has been (when healthy and sober) we should all be ecstatic

 

[Heffyhoof]

Nichuskin would have more pts if he was healthy. My point wasn't that cooley was literally Huberdeau and slafkovsky was nichuskin - it's that not all players who post huge regular season totals are better than those who don't for a cup run.

Honestly if Slaf became what Nichuskin has been (when healthy and sober) we should all be ecstatic

Good to know you don't take yourself seriously.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

Good to know you don't take yourself seriously.

Nuke was the best player in a SCF and was basically ppg last year before he went to player assistance. He's the kind of player you need to win a cup. If we get that from slaf it's a huge win. We can't seriously expect much more than ppg from him in his prime. Regular season production isn't my concern with him anyway, he could be a 65 pt player or an 85 pt player, it doesn't matter unless he drives the play in the playoffs.

That's just me, an unserious guy, though

 

[Heffyhoof]

Nuke was the best player in a SCF and was basically ppg last year before he went to player assistance. He's the kind of player you need to win a cup. If we get that from slaf it's a huge win. We can't seriously expect much more than ppg from him in his prime. Regular season production isn't my concern with him anyway, he could be a 65 pt player or an 85 pt player, it doesn't matter unless he drives the play in the playoffs.

That's just me, an unserious guy, though

Yeah you are. There's a reason you chose Nuke and you've mentioned it twice now. His addiction problems. You actually think you're being subtle with the clear backhanded compliment "Slaf might be as good as Nuke when he isn't on drugs." Clown take.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

Yeah you are. There's a reason you chose Nuke and you've mentioned it twice now. His addiction problems. You actually think you're being subtle with the clear backhanded compliment "Slaf might be as good as Nuke when he isn't on drugs." Clown take.

What? It's common knowledge the guy had issues. I'm strictly talking about level of play. If Slaf can be at a level of healthy Nuke that's a huge piece to a contender. You're just seeing what you want to see.

I chose Nuke because he's a 6'4 elite power forward. That's been a popular comp for slaf since he was drafted

 

[Egresch]

Cooley would do amazing job in front of the net on our PP1. You get less puck touches and you sacrifies your point production, but I am sure he would love it. He would also carry Dach on the 2nd line because he is better than sherpa from Nepal. He is just 20, but he can carry a lot.

 

[dinodebino]

Cooley would not work in this market. Utah is fine for him. Cooley looked like a deer in headlights at the draft in Mtl. This market is overwhelming. Look at how they grilled Slaf this week and the kid took it on the chin. Cooley is fine in Utah.

 

[Bacchus1]

With hindsight, I would take Tkachuk over KK (actually, he was my first choice before all the HF noise got to me ... my mistake).

With hindsight, I would have taken Mitchkov, and then hold his ass as ransom for Phili: all your prospects are belong to us! (No more Mr. Nice Guy!)

With hindsight, and foresight, I would have never traded McDonough for Gomez (I would have taken their 1st +), so with Sergachev for Drouin (dude was showing issues early).

But Cooley Vs. Slaf. I have no strong opinion. Even if Cooley does become the better points producer, and if Slaf ever learns that he has to hit and dominate the boards, while putting up points, I'm ok with that.

 

[ReHabs]

Cooley would not work in this market. Utah is fine for him. Cooley looked like a deer in headlights at the draft in Mtl. This market is overwhelming. Look at how they grilled Slaf this week and the kid took it on the chin. Cooley is fine in Utah.

Reinbacher looked frozen stiff, you think he’s gonna be overwhelmed too then?

 

[River Meadow]

But Cooley Vs. Slaf. I have no strong opinion. Even if Cooley does become the better points producer, and if Slaf ever learns that he has to hit and dominate the boards, while putting up points, I'm ok with that.

Most say that Slaf is a finesse player, and he is NOT a power forward.

This is the hope for many of these bigger types of players, and why they are so tantalizing in terms of potential.

Kent Hughes better hope Slaf does start to dominate the boards and using his body cause he doesn't have enough skill to make a big impact otherwise.

Reinbacher looked frozen stiff, you think he’s gonna be overwhelmed too then?

Very good point.

One of the most shy/timid prospects... even now.

 

[ewfwgfwahbger]

Still too early to tell.

I do like where Cooley is projecting. A better Duchene. He would fit in perfectly as an offensive C behind Suzuki. Slaf is a more unique player though I'm still curious to see what he can bring.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I had Cooley at 1.. there were very few of us who also had that same opinion.

I think with hindsight, you actually confirm you take Slaf over Cooley. As good as Cooley is now, he still doesn't add size to the group, and Cooley isn't as good as what Demidov will be. Having Slaf's skill-set for the top 6 skill we do have, is much needed.

 

[morhilane]

I'm wondering how many people currently saying Habs should have taken Cooley have wondered how many points Cooley would have playing with Dach or Newhook...or Gally, Andy, Armia.

Would Cooley be the screen on the PP?

What will Cooley looks like when asked to swim after his floaters are removed? Because he is still getting sheltered minutes based on quality of opposition and ozone start stats this season.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

6'0 192 lbs.... I would say thats quite average. Same as Demidov.

Indeed, 6'0 for a centerman is actually average size as it is the smallest of all positions. Although, from everything I've read, Demidov is 6'1.

 

[amnesiac]

Indeed, 6'0 for a centerman is actually average size as it is the smallest of all positions. Although, from everything I've read, Demidov is 6'1.

6'0.5 deal? :p

 

[Vachon23]

 

[Habssince89]

Slaf is the kind of player that may take longer to reach his peak but once he does it's game changer. Cooley would've been a great choice too, but a very different one

 

[le_sean]

Slaf trolling Seider and Chiarot after the Laine goals being deflected by them is worth picking him over Cooley on its own. What a legendary pain in the ass

 

[Paddyjack]

I just wish that year the #1 pick was a no-brainer, like Celebrini, Bedard, etc. Instead we got a 3-headed dragon that raise one head every time one of these player is on a stretch... or in a slump

 

[boompuffboom]

lets revisit when both have gone through several long playoff runs.

for now, no.

 

[Kennerback]

Dach’s mind is floating somewhere in the ether this season. Newhook can’t pass despite the best of intentions. Slaf was given an impossible task.