Winnipeg Jets, village burning

[Heldig]

Two threads in like 5 years = hardcore Jets hater.

Sure. Sorry to offend you in the garbage attendance thread and saying they have no shot at the Cup.

Garbage attendance comment is fair. No shot comment seems a bit off considering their position in the standings. Certainly not a favourite though. Probably on par with Dallas. Have to be ab le to get past Colorado and Vegas.

It is your other comments that deserve ridicule.

 

[OG Eberle]

Not all of us team hop, sorry.

You've jumped from:

- the Jets not having a superstar player
- to them being good now not meaning anything
- to disregarding stats/data because its not the Stanley Cup Finals
- to making vague statements about the franchise failing
- to now accusing fans of the Jets of "team hopping" since they got their team back

Wanna just post your agenda here now and save us all the next 7 absurd takes you're inevitably gonna post when backed into a corner again?

Show me on the doll where the Jets hurt you

 

[Joe Hallenback]

You've jumped from:

- the Jets not having a superstar player
- to them being good now not meaning anything
- to disregarding stats/data because its not the Stanley Cup Finals
- to making vague statements about the franchise failing
- to now accusing fans of the Jets of "team hopping" since they got their team back

Wanna just post your agenda here now and save us all the next 7 absurd takes you're inevitably gonna post when backed into a corner again?

Show me on the doll where the Jets hurt you

It was very likely during the Buff years. We abused a lot of teams with that group

I was an Oiler fan when I first joined these boards many moon ago but went back to the Jets when we got our team back

 

[Carbooja]

It was very likely during the Buff years. We abused a lot of teams with that group

I was an Oiler fan when I first joined these boards many moon ago but went back to the Jets when we got our team back

Man, growing up with the Jets 1.0 during the Smythe division era, I could never cheer for the Oilers, Canucks or Flames. I still wore my Teemu jersey whenever I could before Jets 2.0 came back.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Man, growing up with the Jets 1.0 during the Smythe division era, I could never cheer for the Oilers, Canucks or Flames. I still wore my Teemu jersey whenever I could before Jets 2.0 came back.

Me neither. I adopted the habs as my team, almost reluctantly, after the jets left. Could never cheer for oilers or flames. Poster must have been young during the 80s/90s or just less spite filled than us. lol.

 

[jetsv2]

No superstar, no depth, bad coach.

Also just look at their games this season, loses to LA, Vegas (2x), Dallas (2x), NYR.. etc. basically all the good teams they lose to all the bad teams they win against (with a couple exceptions here or there but generally).

The Jets beat LA, Colorado x2 and Boston in December, they also have wins against Tampa and Florida x2 this season but they never beat any good teams right...

Meanwhile Dallas has lost to Toronto, Boston, Vancouver, Colorado, Vegas x2, Florida and Tampa. Looks like Dallas is beating weak teams and losing to all the good teams generally with a couple exceptions...

Time for you to make some more excuses for your hipocoracy or come up with a new argument to continue your shitty attempts at trolling.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

10-1-2 in December, with their only regulation loss coming against the juggernaut San Jose Sharks.

25 straight games with 3 or fewer GA

 

[AnonoJet]

I don’t get why anyone would have such a hate on for the Jets. Who hates irrelevant, which is what almost everyone thinks of the Jets as. Bizarre.

 

[Atoyot]

Oh, one of those guys. There is or was another Dallas fan that hated the Jets. I think he was even from Winnipeg, LOL.

I blocked him years ago so don’t know if he’s still hangin’ around and hatin‘.

I was thinking the same thing. primetimey or something like that? Dallas fans help us out.

 

[winnipegger]

It's all Adam Lowry.

 

[Satire]

No superstar, no depth, bad coach.

Also just look at their games this season, loses to LA, Vegas (2x), Dallas (2x), NYR.. etc. basically all the good teams they lose to all the bad teams they win against (with a couple exceptions here or there but generally).

Helly is a top 3 goalie in this league and absolutely a superstar. He alone can steal a playoff series. I'd also argue that depth is a strength of Winnipeg.

I wouldn't peg them as favourites, but I also wouldn't want to face them in the first round either... I can see them beating any team in the West in a 7 game series, though I'd favour Colorado and Vegas over them.

 

[Hunter368]

Jets just keep winning……

 

[Hunter368]

Chevy continues to do a good job as the GM and Bones has done a fantastic job with holding players accountable, creating a new culture and defensive systems. Players have completely bought into it all, fantastic job.

 

[White Out 902]

What are you talking about? If Jack Eichel is a superstar then so is Mark Scheifele and Kyle Connor. So somehow Jack Eichel is "aight" but the Winnipeg guys are just chopped liver? Bizarre take.

Just another insufferable shit take from a Vegas "hockey fan". God they're the worst. It's like rich peoples kids. Didn't earn anything, just coasting along in life on easy street.

 

[OG Eberle]

Chevy continues to do a good job as the GM and Bones has done a fantastic job with holding players accountable, creating a new culture and defensive systems. Players have completely bought into it all, fantastic job.

I don't frequent the Winnipeg Jets boards, but is there still a very vocal section of the fanbase that thinks Chevy is midAF and want him canned? I remember most of my friends in the city being pretty split down the middle on that one last season/offseason

Personally, I think people forget only one team can win the cup each year. Playoffs comes down to a lot of bounces going one way or the other too. He's consistently been one of the best GMs in my eyes for doing much more with so much less (in many ways).

 

[Hunter368]

I don't frequent the Winnipeg Jets boards, but is there still a very vocal section of the fanbase that thinks Chevy is midAF and want him canned? I remember most of my friends in the city being pretty split down the middle on that one last season/offseason

Personally, I think people forget only one team can win the cup each year. Playoffs comes down to a lot of bounces going one way or the other too. He's consistently been one of the best GMs in my eyes for doing much more with so much less (in many ways).

TBH, I read all the boards as a global mod, within every fan base some hate their coach, GM and players regardless of performance. iMO you have to look at what the majority think, overall Jets fans very happy with Chevy performance IMO. All GM’s have made mistakes, Chevy has but you have to look at the body of work, not individual instances

 

[JeffP]

It is a little weird, and I think it's just due to it being Winnipeg.
I see the standings/pts race, but the press isn't focused on them so perception doesn't quite match reality.

(I've witnessed Dallas' success go under the radar for years, so I both envy and empathize)

Glancing at stats shows good points distribution and a solid goaltending tandem- that should let you keep winning through injuries and cold streaks. Don't take it too hard, just laugh all the way into the playoffs and see how things go.

 

[McFlyingV]

They along with Vancouver will be interesting teams to follow through the rest of the season. Both middle of the pack, but still playoff level advanced stats. Both outproducing those advanced stats by a significant margin due to elite goaltending (Helle and Demko rank 1 and 2 in GSAA). That side of things will probably continue for both teams, but the scoring above expected might normalize a bit.

Personally I think both teams are worse than their record shows, but still both playoff teams. Does that make them contenders? Sure everyone is a contender if they make the big dance, and having an elite goaltender can certainly get you further if the roster itself is lacking. Would I consider either of them favourites at the moment? No.

 

[Hunter368]

It is a little weird, and I think it's just due to it being Winnipeg.
I see the standings/pts race, but the press isn't focused on them so perception doesn't quite match reality.

(I've witnessed Dallas' success go under the radar for years, so I both envy and empathize)

Glancing at stats shows good points distribution and a solid goaltending tandem- that should let you keep winning through injuries and cold streaks. Don't take it too hard, just laugh all the way into the playoffs and see how things go.

That’s normal, if your a small market team and/or not an original six team, how much does national media talk about those teams, not nearly as much.

I’ll use a Canadian example, there would be more national media coverage on LeaFs or Habs as a bottom five team in the league then what rest of Canada’s team would get all combined. Just follow the dollars in marketing, it is what it is.

 

[Hunter368]

They along with Vancouver will be interesting teams to follow through the rest of the season. Both middle of the pack, but still playoff level advanced stats. Both outproducing those advanced stats by a significant margin due to elite goaltending (Helle and Demko rank 1 and 2 in GSAA). That side of things will probably continue for both teams, but the scoring above expected might normalize a bit.

Personally I think both teams are worse than their record shows, but still both playoff teams. Does that make them contenders? Sure everyone is a contender if they make the big dance, and having an elite goaltender can certainly get you further if the roster itself is lacking. Would I consider either of them favourites at the moment? No.

IMO no one is a favourite at this stage, way too much hockey to be played to name favourites IMO

 

[kylbaz]

That’s normal, if your a small market team and/or not an original six team, how much does national media talk about those teams, not nearly as much.

I’ll use a Canadian example, there would be more national media coverage on LeaFs or Habs as a bottom five team in the league then what rest of Canada’s team would get all combined. Just follow the dollars in marketing, it is what it is.

I think it's because we took a nose dive half way through the year last year, weren't great the year before and there hasn't been any huge changes outside of dubois and wheeler leaving.

 

[Hunter368]

I think it's because we took a nose dive half way through the year last year, weren't great the year before and there hasn't been any huge changes outside of dubois and wheeler leaving.

TBH

Former Captain, PLD out

Three Kings players in

Those are pretty big changes IMO

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

They along with Vancouver will be interesting teams to follow through the rest of the season. Both middle of the pack, but still playoff level advanced stats. Both outproducing those advanced stats by a significant margin due to elite goaltending (Helle and Demko rank 1 and 2 in GSAA). That side of things will probably continue for both teams, but the scoring above expected might normalize a bit.

Personally I think both teams are worse than their record shows, but still both playoff teams. Does that make them contenders? Sure everyone is a contender if they make the big dance, and having an elite goaltender can certainly get you further if the roster itself is lacking. Would I consider either of them favourites at the moment? No.

The Jets are top 5 in 5on5 play and are top 2 in goals against. Also top 10 in offence and are currently on a 25 game streak of 3 or less goals allowed in a game. Out of those 25 games have only allowed 2 or less 19 times.

They haven't skipped a beat after losing one of the top 10 goal scorers in the league and are 6-1-2 since. They have great depth with one of the top 3rd lines in the league, if not the best. One of the top 3 goaltenders in the league along with one of the best d men in Morrissey.

They are certainly not over producing and are not punching above their weight in my opinion. They are just a very very good team.

The one major criticism would be the special teams. Especially the PP. But when you allow as little as they do in, and can out match most teams 5 on 5, they can make up for lack of pp production as they have shown to be able to do.

 

[Hunter368]

The Jets are top 5 in 5on5 play and are top 2 in goals against. Also top 10 in offence and are currently on a 25 game streak of 3 or less goals allowed in a game. Out of those 25 games have only allowed 2 or less 19 times.

They haven't skipped a beat after losing one of the top 10 goal scorers in the league and are 6-1-2 since. They have great depth with one of the top 3rd lines in the league, if not the best. One of the top 3 goaltenders in the league along with one of the best d men in Morrissey.

They are certainly not over producing and are not punching above their weight in my opinion. They are just a very very good team.

The one major criticism would be the special teams. Especially the PP. But when you allow as little as they do in, and can out match most teams 5 on 5, they can make up for lack of pp production as they have shown to be able to do.

All accurate facts, but

I would like to see them improve the PP and PK as u stated.

Plus could add a bit of depth on RHD

Doubt any 2C up grade possible at reasonable cost and by all reports the team is very happy with Names 200’ job at it which is fair.

 

[gojetsgo]

They along with Vancouver will be interesting teams to follow through the rest of the season. Both middle of the pack, but still playoff level advanced stats. Both outproducing those advanced stats by a significant margin due to elite goaltending (Helle and Demko rank 1 and 2 in GSAA). That side of things will probably continue for both teams, but the scoring above expected might normalize a bit.

Personally I think both teams are worse than their record shows, but still both playoff teams. Does that make them contenders? Sure everyone is a contender if they make the big dance, and having an elite goaltender can certainly get you further if the roster itself is lacking. Would I consider either of them favourites at the moment? No.

anyone who says were overperforming because of elite goaltending hasn't actually paid much attention to the jets