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Lucius: extremly unlikely due to his injuries

Lambert: possible. He's trending towards maybe being ready for game time in the NHL judging by his AHL stats. Will probably depend on roster spots etc. I'll give it a 30% chance.

McGroarty: I doubt it just because of the fact that he hasn't played one minute in the organization. I expect him to get at least one year in the AHL.

Another prospect to look out for is Nikita Chibrikov though. Kid could be a nasty skilled player. Might project even better than Lambert. Puts up great numbers in the AHL in his first NA season so he seems to be able to adapt very quickly.
 
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MNRube said:
Will any of their prospects be ready this year? Lambert, Lucius, McGroaty etc?
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The Jets normally slowcook their prospects, so I don't expect them to play this year. Also, there is really no room on the roster. They are winning now, and still awaiting Connor, Kupari and Gus to come back from injuries, so they don't need the prospects this year.
 
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GJF said:
Lucius: extremly unlikely due to his injuries

Lambert: possible. He's trending towards maybe being ready for game time in the NHL judging by his AHL stats. Will probably depend on roster spots etc. I'll give it a 30% chance.

McGroarty: I doubt it just because of the fact that he hasn't played one minute in the organization. I expect him to get at least one year in the AHL.

Another prospect to look out for is Nikita Chibrikov though. Kid could be a nasty skilled player. Might project even better than Lambert. Puts up great numbers in the AHL in his first NA season so he seems to be able to adapt very quickly.
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Big fan of Chibrikov. Saw him live at the u18s and he was making plays the entire tournament
 
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Dr Jan Itor said:
I think we've done a Dally once or twice too.

It bugs me a little, but I don't think that it's a majority opinion.
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I am curious. Minny has never been used as a derogatory term that I am aware of but I know it rubs some from the Twin Cities the wrong way.

Is the origin of the friction the omission of St Paul? Is it the people that live in St Paul that feel slagged.

Genuinely curious because everyone I know uses it as an abbreviation to a long name and I have never heard anyone from Winnipeg say anything negative about the twin cities in fact it’s quite the opposite (current drama between NHL teams notwithstanding) :laugh:
 
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ps241 said:
I am curious. Minny has never been used as a derogatory term that I am aware of but I know it rubs some from the Twin Cities the wrong way.

Is the origin of the friction the omission of St Paul? Is it the people that live in St Paul that feel slagged.

Genuinely curious because everyone I know uses it as an abbreviation to a long name and I have never heard anyone from Winnipeg say anything negative about the twin cities in fact it’s quite the opposite (current drama between NHL teams notwithstanding) :laugh:
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Honestly I don't have a good answer for you here. It's probably akin to some people just not liking the word "moist". Not a rational thing, at least in my case.
 
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ps241 said:
I am curious. Minny has never been used as a derogatory term that I am aware of but I know it rubs some from the Twin Cities the wrong way.

Is the origin of the friction the omission of St Paul? Is it the people that live in St Paul that feel slagged.

Genuinely curious because everyone I know uses it as an abbreviation to a long name and I have never heard anyone from Winnipeg say anything negative about the twin cities in fact it’s quite the opposite (current drama between NHL teams notwithstanding) :laugh:
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I always thought Minny was the slang name for Minnesota not Minneapolis
 
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McFlyingV said:
Thats fair I appreciate the more level headed post. Admittedly I've only probably watched them play around 10 times this year and some of those were only partial games. A lot of those were also earlier in the year so maybe they have overall stepped their game up a level. I know in the two games I watched more closely into Edmonton they didn't look all that different from years passed. Still looked like a team that got heavily outplayed for large parts of the game and were bailed out constantly by Helle, but again this was 1-2 months ago and thats only a 2 game sample so that may create a bias for me. Its also entirely possible that maybe they just don't match up a well into a high speed high skill offence.

Either way when teams like Vancouver and Winnipeg are greatly outperforming their advanced stats I think its reasonable to have some pause and questions about whether they can maintain it over an entire season. Should be two interesting teams to follow into the 2nd half of the season and playoffs as I'm sure both will be there.
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It's as silly to say that the Jets get "bailed out by helle" as it would be to say that the Oilers get "bailed out by mcdavid"

Goaltending is one of 6 positions on the ice, and being stronger in that position and winning games is no better or worse than outshooting/outplaying opponents (which would be reflected in the "underlying stats" you're referring to)

I have no idea why some people forget that the goaltender is a part of the team, and having strong goaltending is every bit a valid strategy to build a team around as strong defence or strong centres. In fact, there are teams that are stacked at other positions that learn every season (sometimes many seasons in a row) that having a guy like helle back there would probably be a good idea
 
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Buffdog said:
It's as silly to say that the Jets get "bailed out by helle" as it would be to say that the Oilers get "bailed out by mcdavid"

Goaltending is one of 6 positions on the ice, and being stronger in that position and winning games is no better or worse than outshooting/outplaying opponents (which would be reflected in the "underlying stats" you're referring to)

I have no idea why some people forget that the goaltender is a part of the team, and having strong goaltending is every bit a valid strategy to build a team around as strong defence or strong centres. In fact, there are teams that are stacked at other positions that learn every season (sometimes many seasons in a row) that having a guy like helle back there would probably be a good idea
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Maybe if the Jets were getting outshot by a big margin game after game, there would be an argument that Helle is bailing out the team. An argument could be made that this was the case last season, when Helle sort of strapped the team on his back and carried us into the playoffs down the stretch.

But this year, the Jets are complimenting our great goaltending (from BOTH goalies) with GREAT team defence and really disciplined play. The Jets success this year is due to great team play through all 4 lines.
 
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Brominator said:
Maybe if the Jets were getting outshot by a big margin game after game, there would be an argument that Helle is bailing out the team. An argument could be made that this was the case last season, when Helle sort of strapped the team on his back and carried us into the playoffs down the stretch.

But this year, the Jets are complimenting our great goaltending (from BOTH goalies) with GREAT team defence and really disciplined play. The Jets success this year is due to great team play through all 4 lines.
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Exactly. Top 10 in advanced stats and one of the best goalies on the planet is a way better team than top 5 in advanced stats and a shit goalie

Teams like NJD and Buffalo seem to be taking the "Vegas approach" of having lots of talent and winning with average goalies, but the problem is their goalies aren't even average
 
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Kinda wild how big of a turnaround they made from last year. That team looked on the verge of having to be blown up with all the toxicity in the locker room and the fact they straight up quit on Bowness post all-star break. Doubly so they're doing it without their best goal scorer. I live in Winnipeg and even here most people were done with this group

Turns out guys like Wheeler and Dubois actually were a problem. Go figure. They go and suddenly the team fully buys in to what Bowness is selling.
 
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winnipegger said:
Blah blah blah everyone talking but nobody understands that this is 100% the work of one man and one man alone. Big Adam Lowry.
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While Lowry is a big part of the recent success of the Jets it is wrong to say it is all because of him. To me it is the buy in of our offensive players to back check and play team defence. This is a fully TEAM success, not a one man success, because of this fact the Jets can keep playing as a elite NHL team for the rest of the season and for a long PO run.
 
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Blitzkrug said:
Kinda wild how big of a turnaround they made from last year. That team looked on the verge of having to be blown up with all the toxicity in the locker room and the fact they straight up quit on Bowness post all-star break. Doubly so they're doing it without their best goal scorer. I live in Winnipeg and even here most people were done with this group

Turns out guys like Wheeler and Dubois actually were a problem. Go figure. They go and suddenly the team fully buys in to what Bowness is selling.
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It's ironic, Maurice, PLD and Wheeler have been identified as the "problems" yet their new teams are also all among the leagues best.
 
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I shouldn’t be superstitious but I am. Don’t like these threads (for my team that is).

I’ll try and reverse it.

The Jets are pretenders. Lucky goaltending, lucky passing, no real structure to their team, a bunch of AHLers getting lucky breaks, bad dressing room culture oh yes and lucky goaltending. They will end up last in the league and get fantil
 
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Finnflash said:
I shouldn’t be superstitious but I am. Don’t like these threads (for my team that is).

I’ll try and reverse it.

The Jets are pretenders. Lucky goaltending, lucky passing, no real structure to their team, a bunch of AHLers getting lucky breaks, bad dressing room culture oh yes and lucky goaltending. They will end up last in the league and get fantil
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Perfetti was also asking to be clipped by Hartman*. I mean, look at how he was dressed.
 
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As a Jets fan, would love a WPG-FLA final. A bit jinxy so I'll shush now but I think it'd be a fun story and series.
 
ps241 said:
I am curious. Minny has never been used as a derogatory term that I am aware of but I know it rubs some from the Twin Cities the wrong way.

Is the origin of the friction the omission of St Paul? Is it the people that live in St Paul that feel slagged.

Genuinely curious because everyone I know uses it as an abbreviation to a long name and I have never heard anyone from Winnipeg say anything negative about the twin cities in fact it’s quite the opposite (current drama between NHL teams notwithstanding) :laugh:
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I'm sure stpaul is just the long way to spell minny

White Out 902 said:
On one hand, I like the fact we are flying under the radar. On the other, you'd think the Jets gaining top spot in the standings in its franchise history would at least be worth a mention on the NHL website

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When the Jets win the StanCup we're doing a lap with the Avco cup 1st!
 
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