I want Keefe hired for the sole purpose of if we win the cup with him as coach we can rub it in the fans of the Leafs and mock sportnet.
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I feel Keefe is a tough guy to judge.
He had some good seasons. Everyone knows about the Leafs offensive star power but last year the Leafs also finished 4th in goals against.
To me it also seemed like he wasn’t allowed to coach the Leafs stars. I have never seen a coach needing to do a press conference to apologize to his stars after saying his best players haven’t been their best players. Shanahan lets the inmates run that asylum.
He had some good seasons. Everyone knows about the Leafs offensive star power but last year the Leafs also finished 4th in goals against.
To me it also seemed like he wasn’t allowed to coach the Leafs stars. I have never seen a coach needing to do a press conference to apologize to his stars after saying his best players haven’t been their best players. Shanahan lets the inmates run that asylum.
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Bottom line for me with Keefe is his teams performance in the playoffs or lack of. So much talent so little to show for it.
Aries56
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Keefe would be interesting. He's done well in offensive metrics because he's had offensive all-stars. I would be curious how he would do with a more balanced roster and an all-star goalie.
Romang67
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That last paragraph is my biggest qualm about Keefe. I think he seems like a good coach, albeit somewhat of a dick which I'm sure I'd be fine with if he coached the Jets, but did the stars get off scot free because of him or Shanahan? Or was that just playing the media?
sipowicz
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Put Hely on the Leafs and see how much better they would have done............oh, never mind!
Hunter368
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As with FA's and trade restrictions it will come down to the best coaches available who are willing to move their families to a small market in the middle of the prairies. Like it or not, that impacts the jets on all these types of decisions. Its a factor, albeit not the only factor of course, a good team helps.
cbcwpg
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What you are saying is something people need to remember ....
TNSE may have a list of 20 people they see as potential coaches, but not all of those 20 people see Winnipeg as a potential place to coach.
The Jets IMO will never get the best coach available, just the most willing to work here coach.
Sure, Winnipeg's not for everyone, but there are only 32 NHL head coaching jobs in the known universe.
jokesondee
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True - and there seem to always be a few opening especially this time of the year - and the best opening usually go to the best coaches (and vise versa) -
IOW's, there are usually choices for the coaches / teams that are open and a pecking order to go with it.
5 openings right now (and we'll see what happens with Carolina). Available coaches:
Brad Shaw
Bruce Boudreau
Claude Julien
Craig Berube
D.J. Smith
Dallas Eakins
Dan Bylsma
Dave Hakstol
David Quinn
Davis Payne
Dean Evason
Don Granato
Geoff Ward
Gerard Gallant
J.D. Forrest
Jay Woodcroft
Jeff Blashill
Jeremy Colliton
Joe Sacco
John Gruden
Karl Taylor
Kevin Dineen
Kirk Muller
Lane Lambert
Marco Sturm
Mike Yeo
Phil Housley
Scott Arniel
Seth Appert
Sheldon Keefe
Todd McLellan
Todd Nelson
Todd Reirden
Trent Yawney
That's just former head coaches and current assistants and a few AHL guys. Some of them suck. But there are at least 5 good ones in that group...
tbcwpg
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A bunch of these coaches are still being paid from their old job. Like Keefe's extension hasn't kicked in yet. For some, not all, the choice between hanging out at home or moving to Winnipeg is pretty easy.
Is there a reason you omitted the DUOHFJ (Democratic Unit of HF Jets)?
These guys have the competitive fire in their bellies. They'd rather coach than sit around on the dole. A mere handful of openings in the hockey world's most exclusive club come up every year...unless they've got a better offer, they'd all jump at the chance to coach here.
cbcwpg
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Do we really trust this GM and owner ...who decided the best thing to do when Maurice retired was to promote Dave Lowry instead of going outside the organization... to not screw this up?
That's all I want. Try your best, do the right thing, and hire the best coach you can. I will be truly disappointed if we go thru the whole summer to just have Arniel announced as the new head coach this fall.
That's all I want. Try your best, do the right thing, and hire the best coach you can. I will be truly disappointed if we go thru the whole summer to just have Arniel announced as the new head coach this fall.
bustamente
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I think we all better ne prepared to be disappointed, the plan looks like Bones was going to be here for 2 years and Arniel would take over, is that still the plan? I guess we will find out when all the other top fight coaches go elsewhere.
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I will be upset if it's arneil as well but naming lowry as interim instead of hiring a coach mid season was 100% the correct thing to do
I think this only impacts the 5 star coaches. Most everyone else is going to take a job if offered as their is very little supply.
WolfHouse
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I think you're right that a lot of these guys would jump at a chance to coach anywhere - says a lot about the list.
But I agree - there will be options in Wpg - it's not like nobody wants to come here.
But I think the best of the best will go to the best locations - which really goes without saying.
Personally, I want to see someone that is willing to drive the players in a system and hold everyone accountable - and not worry about pissing anyone off.
I'm less concerned about system type / scheme or whatever - I think our challenges have more to do with players doing what they are asked to do (consistently) and less about the plan (but I get that you need a plan).
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Doesn't even have to be 5 star - the best available coaches will go to the most appealing, available locations.
Best case scenario is to have very few opening - but that's a catch 22 since for every opening, a coach is made available.
It's why it's almost sometimes better to grab a top up and coming coach looking to establish themselves. I'd have to think we'd be very attractive to a coach like Nelson due to the quality of team we have.
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I hope that any new coach if indeed we get another HC other than Arniel is allowed to bring in his own assistants. Lauer and Johnston and not up to snuff
