Winnipeg Jets 2024-25 Coaching Thread

[Gm0ney]

He better have a very good reason for the stark decline year to year then. The personnel on the PK should have been an improvement.

Iafallo + Namestnikov >>>> Maenalanen + Stenlund

To be fair, Maenalanen was the Wayne Gretzky of penalty killing...

Season	WOWY	CA/60	SA/60	GA/60	xGA/60	SCA/60	PK%
2022-23	With	2nd	1st	2nd	1st	1st	~84%, 2nd
2022-23	Without	25th	19th	14th	24th	24th	~80%, 14th
2022-23	Combined	12th	9th	8th	14th	14th	82.4% 7th
2023-24	Without	21st	21st	21st	23rd	21st	77.1% 21st

This year's PK looks suspiciously close to last year's PK without Maenalanen on the ice. I estimated PK% for with and without in 2022-23 because I couldn't be arsed to figure it out exactly. But GA/60 gives a decent ballpark.

 

[cbcwpg]

NHL coaching carousel: Tiers of candidates for the five open jobs

There is another opening behind the bench after Sheldon Keefe was let go Thursday. Here are the top names available, and risers for the future.

www.espn.com

Names on the lists

Craig Berube
Rod Brind'Amour ( could be avail. )
Dean Evason
Don Granato
Dave Hakstol
Sheldon Keefe
Lane Lambert
Todd McLellan
David Quinn
D.J. Smith
Jay Woodcroft
Bruce Boudreau
Dallas Eakins
Gerard Gallant
Claude Julien
Mike Yeo
Scott Arniel
Jeff Blashill
Jeremy Colliton
Kevin Dineen
Phil Housley
Kirk Muller
Davis Payne
Todd Reirden
Joe Sacco
Brad Shaw
Geoff Ward
Trent Yawney
Seth Appert
Dan Bylsma
John Gruden
Marco Sturm
Todd Nelson
Karl Taylor

 

[kylbaz]

Breaking news right there.

Like surixon said, my concern is with the playoff performance. Seems like the exact same thing we've been doing here.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

I would be interested in Keefe.

Is there concern about his playoff performance, yes. However, it's not like there is any slam-dunk hires out there.

Keefe was highly successful in junior and the AHL, and highly successful in the regular season. He is still young, and maybe just needs to escape the curse of the Leafs to break out in the playoffs. He is the kinda hire that if it goes right it can be a long-term advantage for the Jets and I'd rather take that chance than the boring, no high upside Arniel or some of the other guys.

 

[surixon]

Breaking news right there.

Like surixon said, my concern is with the playoff performance. Seems like the exact same thing we've been doing here.

The big difference is that his teams maintain good metrics and fairly strong play in the postseason. They don't fall apart like ours have the past few years. He atleast has been able to go the distance in almost every series he's coached. So there has atleast been push back.

Given his age and pedigree I would think he figures out how to push through and start to win series. I think there is a lot of upside to Keefe.

 

[sipowicz]

Would you rather…Arniel or Keefe?

Keefe, like asking if you want steak or bologna

 

[MarkWheeler]

Breaking news right there.

Like surixon said, my concern is with the playoff performance. Seems like the exact same thing we've been doing here.

Right? Poor playoff performance and a poor power play…. Hmmm

 

[roccerfeller]

Right? Poor playoff performance and a poor power play…. Hmmm

I’m not for or against Keffe but…

Poor playoffs at nhl level (although he took leafs farther than they’d been in 20 years last year) he’s won in playoffs at other levels he’s coached including won a Calder cup

And

Good power play, not poor

 

[bustamente]

Keefe had all the talent in the world in Toronto forward wise and couldn't get the job done.........hard pass

 

[kylbaz]

What are thoughts on Todd McLellan?

 

[surixon]

What are thoughts on Todd McLellan?

Hard pass. He's the definition of mediocre imo.

 

[roccerfeller]

Keefe had all the talent in the world in Toronto forward wise and couldn't get the job done.........hard pass

In favour of the against crowd, one point I can understand is he wasn’t able to “push the players” to the next level in playoffs similar to the criticisms with our group w the Jets

In favour of the for crowd though he gives his teams excellent metrics

 

[gojetsgo]

I want no part of Hakstol. Really, interviewing a coach because he has family close by...

yeah, I'm sure that's exactly why they gave him an interview... anyways looks like somebody lied about what was mentioned during the interview

 

[surixon]

yeah, I'm sure that's exactly why they gave him an interview... anyways the tweet later said that it is believed that nelson would get the job if arneil doesn't but who knows

I'd be fine with Nelson but until I know the actual source of that tweet I'm not going to put much stock in it.

 

[CaptainUgly]

I'd be fine with Nelson but until I know the actual source of that tweet I'm not going to put much stock in it.

Yeah, I was looking into Nelson and would be intrigued if he was the next coach

 

[Jets 31]

I would be interested in Keefe.

Is there concern about his playoff performance, yes. However, it's not like there is any slam-dunk hires out there.

Keefe was highly successful in junior and the AHL, and highly successful in the regular season. He is still young, and maybe just needs to escape the curse of the Leafs to break out in the playoffs. He is the kinda hire that if it goes right it can be a long-term advantage for the Jets and I'd rather take that chance than the boring, no high upside Arniel or some of the other guys.

I'm not against any hire but Keefe had some great forwards, shity defense just like Winnipeg and couldn't get it done in Toronto. Although he didn't have Vezina regular season goaltending like us i guess.

 

[None]

To be fair, Maenalanen was the Wayne Gretzky of penalty killing...

Season	WOWY	CA/60	SA/60	GA/60	xGA/60	SCA/60	PK%
2022-23	With	2nd	1st	2nd	1st	1st	~84%, 2nd
2022-23	Without	25th	19th	14th	24th	24th	~80%, 14th
2022-23	Combined	12th	9th	8th	14th	14th	82.4% 7th
2023-24	Without	21st	21st	21st	23rd	21st	77.1% 21st

This year's PK looks suspiciously close to last year's PK without Maenalanen on the ice. I estimated PK% for with and without in 2022-23 because I couldn't be arsed to figure it out exactly. But GA/60 gives a decent ballpark.

Yeah, I'm skeptical that Maenalanen could reproduce those numbers. Those are on par with guys like Elias Lindholm and Mikael Backlund who finished 6th and 10th in Selke voting that season

If Arniel's PK relied on someone doing their best Patrice Bergeron impression I'm not sure that's necessarily a point in his favour.

 

[KingBogo]

Keefe had all the talent in the world in Toronto forward wise and couldn't get the job done.........hard pass

There are different levels of not getting it done. There is the level of the Jets this playoffs, who were beaten as badly as could be imagined and never had a sniff at the series, and the Leafs losing game 7 in OT on the road in a series that was as tight as possible. At that point it basically comes down to a coin flip. Don't get me wrong I was happy as hell the Leafs got punted, but for me it doesn't rule out Keefe.

 

[Hobble]

I just hope whoever we pick, they change the assistant coaches. Lauer should be banned from entering within the Perimeter.

 

[Cnile]

Well Keefe is now officially available.

In cans and recyclable bottles

 

[macmaroon]

In cans and recyclable bottles

At first I didn't get it, then, Oh, Keefe...

 

[Cnile]

At first I didn't get it, then, Oh, Keefe...

You are a busy person so I figured I’d let one slip in

 

[Hunter368]

There are different levels of not getting it done. There is the level of the Jets this playoffs, who were beaten as badly as could be imagined and never had a sniff at the series, and the Leafs losing game 7 in OT on the road in a series that was as tight as possible. At that point it basically comes down to a coin flip. Don't get me wrong I was happy as hell the Leafs got punted, but for me it doesn't rule out Keefe.

I wouldn’t rule him out either, I’ll say this he’s not great with the media though. IMO

 

[WolfHouse]

I just want him hire so can call him coach queef in a year

 

[Cnile]

NHL coaching carousel: Tiers of candidates for the five open jobs

There is another opening behind the bench after Sheldon Keefe was let go Thursday. Here are the top names available, and risers for the future.

www.espn.com

Names on the lists

Craig Berube
Rod Brind'Amour ( could be avail. )
Dean Evason
Don Granato
Dave Hakstol
Sheldon Keefe
Lane Lambert
Todd McLellan
David Quinn
D.J. Smith
Jay Woodcroft
Bruce Boudreau
Dallas Eakins
Gerard Gallant
Claude Julien
Mike Yeo
Scott Arniel
Jeff Blashill
Jeremy Colliton
Kevin Dineen
Phil Housley
Kirk Muller
Davis Payne
Todd Reirden
Joe Sacco
Brad Shaw
Geoff Ward
Trent Yawney
Seth Appert
Dan Bylsma
John Gruden
Marco Sturm
Todd Nelson
Karl Taylor

John Gruden , we have poor internet so he’s our guy!!