Winnipeg Jets: 11,226 Attendance tonight, cause for concern? What's going on in the 'Peg?

[The Gr8 Dane]

I'll be at tonight's Jets game and the next one versus Chicago.

 

[Guffman]

ok??? This doesn't address the issue at all. Maybe he should be buying up all the empty seats every night to give them some sellouts.

You want Thomson to take money from one pocket and put it in the other? LOL, why?

Look, the Jets were purchased for $230 million in 2011. Sportico currently assesses the value of the Jets to be $925 million. In 12 years, the Jets have increased in value by $695 million. The team is also backed by a multi-billionaire.

You guys want us to worry that the team is going to go bankrupt because attendance has dropped a bit this year? LMAO.

You guys are kookie.

I'll be at tonight's Jets game and the next one versus Chicago.

Spock does the logical thing to save the Jets.

Live long and prosper.

 

[Carbooja]

You want Thomson to take money from one pocket and put it in the other? LOL, why?

Look, the Jets were purchased for $230 million in 2011. Sportico currently assesses the value of the Jets to be $925 million. In 12 years, the Jets have increased in value by $695 million. The team is also backed by a multi-billionaire.

You guys want us to worry that the team is going to go bankrupt because attendance has dropped a bit this year? LMAO.

You guys are kookie.



Spock does the logical thing to save the Jets.

Live long and prosper.

 

[AvroArrow]

The problem isn't the product on the ice, that's for sure. Canada was living in a fantasy world of debt the last 15 years. When interest rates go up people are stretched when your house, car, toys, boat, cottage, are all on monthly payments.

Canada was fine, but we are in an economic crisis and have been for about 2 years now. Probably the worst one I'll see in my lifetime.

Inflation + Taxes are at an all time high, every person I talk to says the same thing. I normally attend a few games a year, won't be attending any this year. Just too expensive and I can't rationalize it when I have a family to feed and a house to pay for.

The Jets will be ok, once Canada starts healing and rates come down, you'll see their stadium selling out on a nightly basis again.

 

[RogerRoger]

You can leave the Southeast division, but you can't truly leave the Southeast division.

 

[robertocarlos]

It's none of your damn business why but I am entering a mental heath, as well as a drug and alcohol, program.

 

[JaegerDice]

I dont personally care one way or the other if Winnipeg has a team or not.

Their owners are one of the richest families in the world, they can afford a hit in profits to lower prices and give people going through some harder times a break.

I’d say this for any billionaire owner of a team struggling to sell tickets. Rest assured, you are not hurting worse than the people deciding they cant afford to come to your games.

 

[Mattilaus]

It's none of your damn business why but I am entering a mental heath, as well as a drug and alcohol, program.

Objection! Relevancy to the thread!

 

[klefbombs shoulder]

According to HF they have about 15000 people per game, 79% attendance. On the lower end of the league but nothing to disastrous. Franchise is also worth more than Florida, Buffalo, Columbus, and Arizona. Its pretty amazing that Florida and Arizona, in Cities 4+ times bigger than Winnipeg have less value.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

ok??? This doesn't address the issue at all. Maybe he should be buying up all the empty seats every night to give them some sellouts.

Jets fans love to talk about their Billionaire minority owner that lives in Europe or Toronto.. I forget where. Also the massive "real estate investment" is 2 office towers. Jets fans are silly.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

"the Jets are in trouble" but the NHL is fine with the coyotes playing in a junior A rink. What a joke.

 

[JP Mick]

According to HF they have about 15000 people per game, 79% attendance. On the lower end of the league but nothing to disastrous. Franchise is also worth more than Florida, Buffalo, Columbus, and Arizona. Its pretty amazing that Florida and Arizona, in Cities 4+ times bigger than Winnipeg have less value.

South Florida has college football, NFL football, an NBA team , an NBA team, and Messi playing on the MLS team. We still pack the arena at 18000 plus. Franchise isn’t worth much if it isn’t supported.

 

[JP Mick]

"the Jets are in trouble" but the NHL is fine with the coyotes playing in a junior A rink. What a joke.

There’s money in Arizona. Do you even business bro?

 

[MapleLeafs94]

I'll be at tonight's Jets game and the next one versus Chicago.

Unfortunate it wasn't a "lopsided result" in the Jets favor.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

There’s money in Arizona. Do you even business bro?

Do you even hockey bro?

 

[JeremyHronek]

Winnipeg is in an interesting position as they are entirely impacted by ticket prices and are a microcosm of how the Canadian economy is doing.

In addition, there are a lot of season ticket holders who gave up their tickets when the team/league/country attempted to mandate vaccination to enter the building. I personally know a dozen who basically gave them up and will no longer support the team.

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

There’s money in Arizona. Do you even business bro?

They're not investing that money in hockey.

 

[Saitama]

Winnipeg is in an interesting position as they are entirely impacted by ticket prices and are a microcosm of how the Canadian economy is doing.

In addition, there are a lot of season ticket holders who gave up their tickets when the team/league/country attempted to mandate vaccination to enter the building. I personally know a dozen who basically gave them up and will no longer support the team.

"I wasn't allowed to go, so I decided I wasn't going to go!"

 

[SeanConn]

Jets fans love to talk about their Billionaire minority owner that lives in Europe or Toronto.. I forget where. Also the massive "real estate investment" is 2 office towers. Jets fans are silly.

has it ever been made clear exactly what % of the team The 3rd Lord Thomson of Fleet actually owns?

As others have said, they could definitely lower ticket prices and be alright. Thomson clearly needs to step the f*** up.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I think the current owners knew the size of the city.

BTW, one of their owners is worth $10 billion. Jets owners are also building up the real estate around the Jets arena. No stress here about the Jets long-term stay.

For a lot of people, times are tough these days plus I think a few fans have been cheesed off at perpetual underperformance the team has exhibited the past few years. The fans will eventually return.

Your point is valid that the only thing that really matters is the owner’s willingness and ability to absorb losses.

But it’s not a great look for Winnipeg if their argument is “exactly one person is keeping the team economically viable”. For the fans to abandon a third-place team that’s coming off 5/6 years in the playoffs, that seems to be giving the doubters a lot of fuel. What is this going to look like when they actually become a bad team? Is the plan for Thomson to just keep writing eight-figure checks to cover their losses?

 

[Salsero1]

Your point is valid that the only thing that really matters is the owner’s willingness and ability to absorb losses.

But it’s not a great look for Winnipeg if their argument is “exactly one person is keeping the team economically viable”. For the fans to abandon a third-place team that’s coming off 5/6 years in the playoffs, that seems to be giving the doubters a lot of fuel. What is this going to look like when they actually become a bad team? Is the plan for Thomson to just keep writing eight-figure checks to cover their losses?

We were derided for not showing up for the Canes after 6 years of wheel spinning. I think we would have loved to have the Jets records from 2009-2014.

The reality is this is what we should expect from a market as small as Winnipeg. Some of us down south are just cashing our receipts from the years of hearing how perfect Winnipeg and small town Canada is and how they're so much better than us.

 

[cliffclaven]

Teams like Winnipeg are in trouble because of the economy, and because the product the NHL puts out now is a sanitized shell of what it used to be. Casual fans have tuned out. The vast majority of the games I watch anymore are snoozefests.

Also, just because a city has a large population doesn’t really mean anything. There has to be people in that city who actually want to see hockey.

 

[joestevens29]

Your point is valid that the only thing that really matters is the owner’s willingness and ability to absorb losses.

But it’s not a great look for Winnipeg if their argument is “exactly one person is keeping the team economically viable”. For the fans to abandon a third-place team that’s coming off 5/6 years in the playoffs, that seems to be giving the doubters a lot of fuel. What is this going to look like when they actually become a bad team? Is the plan for Thomson to just keep writing eight-figure checks to cover their losses?

He's willing to absorb losses because he's making a pile more money in investments in the surrounding area.

Sounds like they have individuals buying tickets, it's just the lack of businesses that are buying tickets. So that's actually not a bad sign. Eventually the businesses will pick up and start buying tickets again as obviously individuals still want to go to the games. But if you didn't have the regular joe buying tickets I think you'd be in worse shape as business would look to spend their company entertainment bucket on something else.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Teams like Winnipeg are in trouble because of the economy, and because the product the NHL puts out now is a sanitized shell of what it used to be. Casual fans have tuned out. The vast majority of the games I watch anymore are snoozefests.

Also, just because a city has a large population doesn’t really mean anything. There has to be people in that city who actually want to see hockey.

Canadian teams that share the same economy are all doing great. Calgary has seemed to turn around their attendance woes and are now averaging above 17K. Edmonton, one of the worst teams in the league, has great attendance.

It has everything to do with the size of the market as well as the slow growth. Lack of corporate help and relying on the same customer base year-after-year is just not sustainable.

They will rebound at some point for sure. The hope is that it rebounds quickly.

 

[Edgelord]

Teams like Winnipeg are in trouble because of the economy, and because the product the NHL puts out now is a sanitized shell of what it used to be. Casual fans have tuned out. The vast majority of the games I watch anymore are snoozefests.

Also, just because a city has a large population doesn’t really mean anything. There has to be people in that city who actually want to see hockey.

100%, in a way the Jet's attendance has always been way to get a preview of how the Canadian economy is doing and the direction its headed