That is a crock of shit. Playing ahead of Berggren right now does not mean they should be. There are 3-4 guys that have no business to be playing ahead of him.
Berggren is 22, he is supposed to be top 6 forward, I don't see him other role. For top 6 we have Larkin, Copp, Bertuzzi, Perron, Kubalik, Raymond. There are also players , like Veleno, Rasmussen, Sundqvist, Ernie, Sutter who could play on the top 6. I don't think SY want him to go up and down up and down . Let's just keep him solidly in one place, or maybe switch him with Elmer somewhere on the middle of season
We don't have Bertuzzi. And there is could play in the top 6 and should play in the top 6. Two very different things. Solidly in one place. On the Wings. Agreed.
He wanted out. How much effort the Wings put into convincing him otherwise I have no idea. There definitely seems to be a missing piece to the story. Oh well. Cossa will be fine. Right? Right?
There’s also worse players in front. Kid deserves a shot.
He’s supposed to be a middle six forward. A Nyquist/Tatar like player.
Ether top six or could play any lines. If not should be gone , just like those 2. We got lucky with Tatar trade was good and Nyquist trade we got pretty much nothing in return
Gus was awesome, still don't know if Albert or Viro could make it, I hope so , but we don't know yet
I have my doubts the longer they are around the GR coaching staff.
Right now, if I could pick just one of Cossa or Petruzzelli, I would pick Cossa 100 times out of 100, yeah. To be clear, I'm not one of the Cossa panickers. He's just marinating in the background for me, while I enjoy the Husso show in the meantime. Petruzzelli is trending as a journeyman at best.
I'm of the mind that if you can snag Husso for a 3rd, why would you ever spend a pick on drafting a goalie? We have had 2 and a half goalie picks in 30 years that amounted to anything. Draft skaters trade for goalies.
Goalies are more of wild cards than skaters, so I do agree it makes less sense to draft them high. But that doesn't mean you should never do it. Occasionally is fine, especially if you have a lot of draft capital. If they take a goalie in the mid-to-late 1st round once every 20 years, I have no problem with it. Diversify your funds.
I'm fine with a random 5 or later pick on a goalie. But 1-3? Nope.
Year | Rd. | Overall | Player | Pos | Amateur Team |
1991 | 3 | 54 | Chris Osgood | G | Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL) |
1992 | 11 | 262 | Ryan Bach | G | Notre Dame (SJHL) |
1992 | 8 | 189 | C. J. Denomme | G | Kitchener Rangers (OHL) |
1992 | 7 | 166 | Greg Scott | G | Niagara Falls Thunder (OHL) |
1993 | 10 | 256 | James Kosecki | G | Berkshire School (High-MA) |
1993 | 5 | 126 | Norm Maracle | G | Saskatoon Blades (WHL) |
1994 | 8 | 205 | Jason Elliot | G | Kimberley (RMJHL) |
1994 | 5 | 114 | Frederic Deschenes | G | Granby Bisons (QMJHL) |
1995 | 5 | 126 | David Arsenault | G | Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL) |
1996 | 5 | 135 | Michal Podolka | G | Soo Greyhounds (OHL) |
1996 | 2 | 52 | Aren Miller | G | Spokane Chiefs (WHL) |
1998 | 3 | 84 | Jake McCracken | G | Soo Greyhounds (OHL) |
2000 | 4 | 102 | Stefan Liv | G | HV71 (Sweden) |
2001 | 6 | 195 | Nick Pannoni | G | Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL) |
2001 | 4 | 121 | Drew MacIntyre | G | Sherbrooke Castors (QMJHL) |
2002 | 5 | 166 | Logan Koopmans | G | Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL) |
2003 | 2 | 64 | Jimmy Howard | G | Maine (H-East) |
2006 | 3 | 92 | Daniel Larsson | G | Hammarby IF (Sweden-2) |
2008 | 1 | 30 | Thomas McCollum | G | Guelph Storm (OHL) |
2010 | 5 | 141 | Petr Mrazek | G | Ottawa 67's (OHL) |
2012 | 3 | 80 | Jake Paterson | G | Saginaw Spirit (OHL) |
2014 | 5 | 136 | Chase Perry | G | Wenatchee Wild (NAHL) |
2015 | 4 | 110 | Joren Van Pottelberghe | G | Linkoping HC Jr. (Sweden Jr.) |
2016 | 6 | 167 | Filip Larsson | G | Djurgardens IF Jr. (Sweden Jr.) |
2017 | 3 | 88 | Keith Petruzzelli | G | Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL) |
2018 | 6 | 160 | Victor Brattstrom | G | Timra IK (Sweden-2) |
2018 | 3 | 84 | Jesper Eliasson | G | IF Troja-Ljungby Jr. (Sweden Jr.) |
2019 | 7 | 191 | Carter Gylander | G | Sherwood Park (AJHL) |
2020 | 4 | 107 | Jan Bednar | G | HC Banik Sokolov (Czech-2) |
2021 | 1 | 15 | Sebastian Cossa | G | Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL) |
And when pray tell was that? Certainly not since after Thanksgiving last season.
But 5 or later has got us almost nothing, a couple short-term backups in Maracle and Mrazek out of 15 picks (besides Gylander). At least the 9 picks in 1-3 (besides Cossa) got us a couple starters in Osgood and Howard.
from eyeballing the drafts, it feels like the nhl has been following that trend for awhile. Teams get some extra draft capital in those rounds, and then spend a little higher than normal on a goalie.
