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Windsor Spitfires 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part V

Kinda weird and fans are confused. Most of the guys sat in a suite together and were seen walking around. Injured ok but Tree was there with them… im not a doctor but ill tell u what, id be dressed and doing whatever it takes to play!! This many guys stay out, seasons over.
 
Kinda weird and fans are confused. Most of the guys sat in a suite together and were seen walking around. Injured ok but Tree was there with them… im not a doctor but ill tell u what, id be dressed and doing whatever it takes to play!! This many guys stay out, seasons over.
This was odd, people in my section were pointing it out. If he's sick he's sick, just odd to be with everyone when he's sick.
 
Well Joey was average at best tonight. Tide is turning now. The Rangers have the momentum going back home and in the series now. The injuries/scratches have caught up with us. Yikes the series we anticipated is alive and well unfortunately. Most said 6 or 7 as did I and here we are.
Honestly, the 4th goal was brutal… But I’m coming to his defense here. He made some big saves, notably the Ellinas break away.

His puck handling has terrified me, and throughout the playoffs has been WAY better. Every aspect of his game has been. But yeah, 4th goal, yikes. We needed to head to intermission with momentum from the Protas goal, and that killed it.

I’m worried now. Momentum has swung headed into Kitchener for game 6, and we’re down another body in Lemieux. If nobody else is back… we’ll need an additional body to fill space up front, even after Brockelhurst and Stewart slot in.

What about Newlove, Windbiel, have they tried forward?
 
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Honestly, the 4th goal was brutal… But I’m coming to his defense here. He made some big saves, notably the Ellinas break away.

His pick handling has terrified me, and throughout the playoffs has been WAY better. Every aspect of his game has been. But yeah, 4th goal, yikes. We needed to head to intermission with momentum from the Protas goal, and that killed it.

I’m worried now. Momentum has swung headed into Kitchener for game 6, and we’re down another body in Lemieux. If nobody else is back… we’ll need an additional body to fill space up front, even after Brockelhurst and Stewart slot in.

What about Newlove, Windbiel, have they tried forward?
Nobody is expected back except possibly Greentree, who seems 50/50. They did have Hicks on forward at one point! I am 100% expecting a defeat in game 6. Can't win games with 1.5 lines.
 
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If it’s flu, why have him around other players to infect. Odd? Irresponsible? Bad judgement? All of the above it seems.
100%

Teenagers will do whatever they want. Gm or parents or someone should tell him to come to game but sit in different box etc
 
Nobody is expected back except possibly Greentree, who seems 50/50. They did have Hicks on forward at one point! I am 100% expecting a defeat in game 6. Can't win games with 1.5 lines.
2nd period on Hicks was up front. And honestly, not a bad option.

Morneau/Protas/Garden
Abraham/Nesbitt/McNamara
Hicks/Costello/Gaymes
Stewart/Brocklehurst/???

Christoforo/Kennedy
Walton/Robinson
Eichler/Spicer

Costanzo
Froggett

Out:
F: Greentree, Spellacy, Davis, Belchetz, Lemieux
D: Mathurin, Woodall, Winegard

We’re currently out 4, maybe 5 of our Top 6 for next season.. throw in Nesbitt, and Lemieux/Gardens the debate for the other Top 6.

Brutal. I really don’t think I’ve seen a team so depleted. No excuses. The team you have is the team you have. Can create all the IF/THEN situations you want, but they don’t mean a damn thing.

Really sucks if Spellacy’s good and Chicago’s the set back. I don’t question the heart in this group, but I really don’t think I’ve ever seen so many Top Minute Guys Down
 
FWIW, I wasn’t disappointed at the guys playing. Sure Kennedy’s a -4 tonight. Not a sexy stat, but when your 6th D Man, becomes a kid who’s never played a regular season game, and your #1/#2 guy has to eat up a lot more minutes… and is relied on when your fourth line is now your second/third line… +/- becomes a little less relevant.

Guys stepped up. No doubt. A Nathan Gaymes, isn’t expected to put up 2nd line scoring numbers, but with the current roster, you almost need him too. But that’s not Gaymes fault. Gardens got a lot of zip, solid hands, high energy, but he’s also a 5’8” 160lb 16 year old. Hard to replace the production of a guy like Davis in his third year in the league. These guys are grinding it out, taking on roles none of us expected. And they’re holding their own.

Goal 1 was a slip up on D, leading to a 2-1
Goal 2 was a D man pinching, and a late coverage back (juggling lines/players)
Goal 4 was a bad goalie turnover… that may be a set play and someone just wasn’t in the right spot? Wide open cage.

We also missed a couple key opportunities. Morneau with a couple, Christoforo with one. It is what it is.

Hopefully we can grind out a win in the next two somewhere and move on, and hope another body or two returns.

They’re quite handcuffed. Can’t afford to get anyone else injured, but also can’t have a Gaymes/Costello, sit for fighting. Take a bad penalty, or get a suspension. Kinda a stand around and get hit, but don’t hit back scenario.

It wouldn’t be clean, but my strategy is bring in the biggest Jr B guys you got, and have em go after guys like Swick, Andonovski, and Ellinas, guys that might bite… but then again, hard to send out a Goon in a Cage
 
100%

Teenagers will do whatever they want. Gm or parents or someone should tell him to come to game but sit in different box etc
I don’t blame em. Heart and Soul of this team is trying to get out there and play. Does he swing the difference tonight if he’s healthy?

I mean… I think anyone watching would say it felt closer than the result on paper
 
I don’t blame em. Heart and Soul of this team is trying to get out there and play. Does he swing the difference tonight if he’s healthy?

I mean… I think anyone watching would say it felt closer than the result on paper
Obviously he does but whole point is it is stupid if you are very sick to sit with all your buddies in the playoffs and potentially give them what you have.
 
So, if Greentree manages to recover sufficiently that he's able to play in the next game, can Imodium be considered to be a performance-enhancing drug ???:crossfing:lightningbolt
 
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Some thoughts...

- First goal against was just an unlucky play with Cristoforo blowing a tire. Turns into a 2on1, one-timer goal.
- Second goal, Swick got all alone behind Kennedy and Walton. Perfect pass and tip in.
- Third goal, Costanzo looked like he wasn't playing the angle right. A bit of a toe-drag, snap it blocker. I'm sure Joey wants that one back. His body language screamed, too.
- Fourth goal, Costanzo plays the puck at a weird bounce, goes backhand, misses Kennedy. Puck goes to the Rangers, who throw it out front before Costanzo can get set. It's easily in.

- The word, pre-game, was that Greentree had flu-like symptoms. That was re-iterated on the post-game with Beller. I don't know how long he's out for, or who he's been around, any of that stuff. I just hope he's feeling better for Sunday.
- I have no idea why Walters put Brocklehurst with Morneau and Protas to start. I'm a big Brockle hopeful; the kid has so much potential. However, top line in this game has to be the veterans. Throw Nesbitt up there instead and you've got the big body who can score to replace Greentree.
- The Spits looked out of sync to start. I said "this feels like a team thrown together at the last minute, versus a team that's been together forever." It shouldn't be like that.
- That said, they played better in the second and third, once they seemed to find a bit of chemistry. There were multiple pushes, which you like to see.
- Costanzo looked human tonight, while Parsons looked like a robot. That's going to happen. You just hope for the bounce back now.
- Losing Lemieux to another hit really hurt. I don't think he returned. They almost lost Costello, too, to I THINK a spear? He was able to return, though, and had a chip on his shoulder.
- Looked like Gaymes and Hlacar were talking pre-game. Andonovski challenged Gaymes multiple times but Gaymes didn't want to... which makes sense when you lose Greentree and Lemieux like that. I'm sure they'll find their time eventually.
- On the post-game via YT, Walters said health is the most important thing and "they'll play when they're ready." "I don't know how it's happened, why it's happened, but we still believe in this team. When you lose your captain 15 minutes before the game time, then you lose Lemieux, now you're at nine guys and it's tough. I'm just proud of these guys." Walters said Greentree is ill, "battled through" Game 4, but tonight "just wasn't able to go." Walters looked dumbfounded and kind of "what can you do?" Which I don't blame him for at all. He literally had to play Carter Hicks up front... I mean...

All you can do now is get as healthy as possible, maybe get a guy or two back (Greentree, please and thanks!), and go into Kitchener with hope for a win. If they lose, Game 7 on Tuesday at home. Would it be crushing to lose this series, especially in this fashion? Abso-freakin-lutely. But, I don't remember the last time anyone had this many key injuries/illnesses. It's a freak of nature and you have to play through it, somehow.
 
Some thoughts...

- First goal against was just an unlucky play with Cristoforo blowing a tire. Turns into a 2on1, one-timer goal.
- Second goal, Swick got all alone behind Kennedy and Walton. Perfect pass and tip in.
- Third goal, Costanzo looked like he wasn't playing the angle right. A bit of a toe-drag, snap it blocker. I'm sure Joey wants that one back. His body language screamed, too.
- Fourth goal, Costanzo plays the puck at a weird bounce, goes backhand, misses Kennedy. Puck goes to the Rangers, who throw it out front before Costanzo can get set. It's easily in.

- The word, pre-game, was that Greentree had flu-like symptoms. That was re-iterated on the post-game with Beller. I don't know how long he's out for, or who he's been around, any of that stuff. I just hope he's feeling better for Sunday.
- I have no idea why Walters put Brocklehurst with Morneau and Protas to start. I'm a big Brockle hopeful; the kid has so much potential. However, top line in this game has to be the veterans. Throw Nesbitt up there instead and you've got the big body who can score to replace Greentree.
- The Spits looked out of sync to start. I said "this feels like a team thrown together at the last minute, versus a team that's been together forever." It shouldn't be like that.
- That said, they played better in the second and third, once they seemed to find a bit of chemistry. There were multiple pushes, which you like to see.
- Costanzo looked human tonight, while Parsons looked like a robot. That's going to happen. You just hope for the bounce back now.
- Losing Lemieux to another hit really hurt. I don't think he returned. They almost lost Costello, too, to I THINK a spear? He was able to return, though, and had a chip on his shoulder.
- Looked like Gaymes and Hlacar were talking pre-game. Andonovski challenged Gaymes multiple times but Gaymes didn't want to... which makes sense when you lose Greentree and Lemieux like that. I'm sure they'll find their time eventually.
- On the post-game via YT, Walters said health is the most important thing and "they'll play when they're ready." "I don't know how it's happened, why it's happened, but we still believe in this team. When you lose your captain 15 minutes before the game time, then you lose Lemieux, now you're at nine guys and it's tough. I'm just proud of these guys." Walters said Greentree is ill, "battled through" Game 4, but tonight "just wasn't able to go." Walters looked dumbfounded and kind of "what can you do?" Which I don't blame him for at all. He literally had to play Carter Hicks up front... I mean...

All you can do now is get as healthy as possible, maybe get a guy or two back (Greentree, please and thanks!), and go into Kitchener with hope for a win. If they lose, Game 7 on Tuesday at home. Would it be crushing to lose this series, especially in this fashion? Abso-freakin-lutely. But, I don't remember the last time anyone had this many key injuries/illnesses. It's a freak of nature and you have to play through it, somehow.
I think the last minute lost of Greentree gave Walter no choice than to keep Nesbitt down, in order to keep some balance to his lines. To move him up would be significantly weaken the second line. Greg probably was hoping that playing Broklehurst with Morneau and Protas would get the kid to play his maximum and make him overall better. I think with the loss of Players, Walter and the team has been dealt with a curveball, they just have to play through it and find a way to win.
 
Obviously he does but whole point is it is stupid if you are very sick to sit with all your buddies in the playoffs and potentially give them what you have.
True. Not advising that but maybe it’s past the point of contagious? Already shared a bus home from Kitchener? Idk I’m not a doctor. But I can’t imagine no one on the staff thought of this
 
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Or maybe he found himself on the coaches shit list and got benched?? No excuse to be in that suite together and theres no bathroom in the suite. Something fishy. You cant expect to win with 9-10 regulars out no chance. Chicago needs to let spells play, tree must go. Frankly unless ur useless its time to dress.
 
Or maybe he found himself on the coaches shit list and got benched?? No excuse to be in that suite together and theres no bathroom in the suite. Something fishy. You cant expect to win with 9-10 regulars out no chance. Chicago needs to let spells play, tree must go. Frankly unless ur useless its time to dress.
Let's keep in mind that most if not all of the players sitting in the box with Greentree are not coming back this year. Them getting sick ( which is still a bummer for them) will have no impact on the outcome of the playoffs.

Only 1 maybe that is Spellacy and Greentree that may or may not recover are an issue.

The team you see before you is pretty much set unless they continue to allow Kitchener to spear and head hunt and we loss more players.
 
Disappointed Spits lost last night at home,their 1st loss at home in 16 games,last 10 games of the regular season and 5 playoff games were the home wins till last night.
Having 9 players out of the lineup by game's end a huge,huge factor not an excuse,in fact Spits were missing 130G,196A,326 points from their lineup players due to injury/illness,Kitchener 1 player 31G,37A,68 points due to injury.
Is what it is never have seen this before re Windsor or anyone in Jr to be honest.
Joey could have been better especially the last 2 goals,in particular the 4th one,the way things are going.
Hopefully 1 or 2 guys back for Sunday,I am guessing 1,and would be surprised it's Greentree.
More thoughts later.
 
Hate to say it but if we dont get some boys back in the lineup , its time to book your tee time next week.

If they win Game 6, I'll be floored. I'm fully expecting a Game 7 with, hopefully, a body or two back. I know it'll be called an "excuse", but I'd be impressed if any team could win with what's happening now.

Spellacy/Greentree/Belchetz
Costello (assuming he's out again)/Outwater/Davis

Winegard/Mathurin
Woodall

When healthy, that's a top line, a third line, and a top defensive pairing, plus a sixth D. It's kind of impressive.
 
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Disappointed Spits lost last night at home,their 1st loss at home in 16 games,last 10 games of the regular season and 5 playoff games were the home wins till last night.
Having 9 players out of the lineup by game's end a huge,huge factor not an excuse,in fact Spits were missing 130G,196A,326 points from their lineup players due to injury/illness,Kitchener 1 player 31G,37A,68 points due to injury.
Is what it is never have seen this before re Windsor or anyone in Jr to be honest.
Joey could have been better especially the last 2 goals,in particular the 4th one,the way things are going.
Hopefully 1 or 2 guys back for Sunday,I am guessing 1,and would be surprised it's Greentree.
More thoughts later.

Not expecting Greentree back? It will have been another 48 hours since game 5, so hoping he's good to go. As mentioned, he participated in warmups and was in the suite, so he's not completely shut down with illness.

Who is the 1 player expected back for game 6?
 
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