Will all 5 be there by final rankings on a team that plays no defense...
Windsor Spitfires 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 2)
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Toms is going to eat up minutes on a bad team. He's not a solution to their problems and he's not really improving the overall D either. This is like Logan Roy telling his kids
He's an 04 and if we are being serious he shouldn't be in consideration for an OA slot but he will probably be there. After all the Spits wasted a card on 8 games of Jodoin. They're also utilizing cards on Struthers and Winegard. So yeah Bowler and Smith aren't serious people.
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ohloutsider
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Who in their right mind would spend 20 million dollars for a Jr team, that's what Niagara Falls went for almost 18 months ago or more.
Careful what u wish for.
I am guessing the 5 new owners of Ottawa Senators that are from the OHL are not selling their OHL teams including the Savages.
I know if I had the money I don't waste it on fairweather fans.
OHLTG
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Are these rumours from people in the know or from online? I ask because, since the last time there were "for sale" rumours, I haven't heard a whisper about it.
I don't know if I'd welcome a sale or not. We've literally seen three sides to this coin; the "very involved" owners (boughner et al., which had critics), the "in it for the family" owner (Parekh), and the "quietly helps but optics aren't great" owners (Savages).
Also, to be fair, the Bowler isn't MIA and the Savages have always been out of the spotlight. Heck, I was surprised a couple of games ago when I ran into John Savage before a game. "Oh... what's he doing here?"
Hopefully it's more looked into than the supposedly phantom "coaches" search they did before Smith was hired...
Absolutely thry r MIA ..
Teflon
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Cmon legend that’s backbiting even for you! Fairweather fans?!?! How about passionate fans that have seen/heard enough, that know more than the typical fan, and know major changes need to happen NOW! Mistakes were made, more than a couple. Man up and admit that and fix them. Thats what i need to see! You constantly protect BB but he the architect and the voice we hear and he made the mistakes, theres no question about it. This team is broken!!
This idea that people wouldn't buy a team is based on foolishness. People that buy whether it's a junior hockey franchise or professional sports franchise do it because they have the means for it. They're millionaires they aren't like you and I posting on a message board. The jab about "fairweather fans" is disingenuous especially when that individual goes to games for free. This idea about going to games regardless is ridiculous. If I go to a restaurant and have a garbage meal and I go back and it's still terrible should I still keep going if the food is terrible?? At some point it is a restaurant problem if you keep going that's a you problem thinking it will be different. If the team isn't performing well and you're not getting a return on your investment you shouldn't keep spending money unconditionally.
GMs and coaches make mistakes all the time,who in their right mind would can a GM after what has happened since Covid, 2-1st place conference and division regular season finishes,1 conference championship, despite heavy graduations and players leaving early 3 years in a row now,Foudy,Rafkin,Johnston and Wright,no OHL team has experienced that and won,yes Hamilton lost Mctavish last year early,finished 6th last and out in the 1st,don't think they fired anybody,Bowler hired a coach in Savard without head coach experienced and look what he did the 2 years he was here.
Had to hire a new coach this season and while you have espoused rumors but not in fact Smiths relationship with the Savages (family).
Till you can prove otherwise it's wrong to keep on mentioning it.
Now am I surprised at the team's start to date yes,though no more surprised then last year when Windsor despite losing Johnston, amongst expected losses were still a 1st place team through 68 games despite the most injuries in the league and basically a rookie goalie who overtook a vet goalie and wound up with the 5th best goalie numbers despite what was felt was a poor D.
Unfortunately and I have have been a Costanzo fan since he came here has played mostly poorly this season to date,despite the youngest D corps in the league a huge factor that can't be ignored,lately really bad 15 goals against the last outings,though I admit Smith should have pulled him vs London after 6 instead of leaving him in,see I cam admit coaching mistakes,and surprisingly in his last 3 starts on the Michelone has been excellent only allowing 8 goals,a win in Sarnia(2)and losses at the Sault(3) and Saggy(3).
I am not firing a coach 17 games in,now if this was his 2nd season perhaps and I am dumping a GM either.
Attendance since Covid the last 2 years went up 1800 from 3000 to 4800 per game last year.
Now down 550 since last season still 1250 since the Covid season.
Toss in the fact that Bowler's drafting has been excellent since Covid especially last year's draft and despite having late round picks in most rounds especially 1-4,Windsor has 5 players rated in the top 50 OHL players for the next NHL draft,most in West actually by far London has 3,though 1 was traded for Dickinson, all 5 are drafted by Windsor, Soo also has 3,Mississauga has 6,though 1 is a Euro and 2 are 05 late birthday guys,Brantford has 5 though 1 Luca Testa was acquired in a trade,plus I think Eichler might slide into the group even though he is a late 05 player.
For me the last 2 years plus the drafting of Bowler makes him immune to dismissal in the overall scheme of things.
My attitude is who in their right mind would apply for the job with similar results/drafting knowing 1 off or bad start to a season would get me fired.
People on here bttched about Rychel in the past and some have done the same with Bowler.
Maybe we should go back to the Riolo days for some real satisfaction.
Like I said careful what u wish for.
so while you guys are bickering the spits made a move. 2 players out, 2 in and picks
HockeyPops
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Windsor is not as bad a team as the record indicates. They have been quite unlucky over the past two weeks to not take points away from multiple games or even outright win them. They are close, but obviously at the end of the day you are what your record says you are.
The OHL is cyclical, and obviously Windsor is at the start of the downward cycle. I wouldn't be firing anyone based on what's happened so far; but the question going forward is how does the GM manage the rebuild to get back to a competitive team, and how does the coach handle it and keep the players engaged and developing.
The OHL is cyclical, and obviously Windsor is at the start of the downward cycle. I wouldn't be firing anyone based on what's happened so far; but the question going forward is how does the GM manage the rebuild to get back to a competitive team, and how does the coach handle it and keep the players engaged and developing.
OHLTG
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Apparently Outwater is on his way to Windsor....
OHLTG
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First part is done - Sag sends F McNamara and a late pick to Kingston for 3rd, 3rd, 4th.
Kingpin794
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Was only a matter of time. Once we got Hay, there wasn't a spot for him. Not to say he isn't good. Give him some opportunity and i think he thrives.
GermanSpitfire
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Greentree has been fantastic this season and will go in the first round of the NHL draft. Amazing player Windsor is lucky to have.
Cristoforo play has slipped quite a bit and may be a mid round pick this year. Would be a shame
Considering how well he played last year.
AJ Spellacy needs to pick up his play, because although he has the size, physicality and speed his head isn’t there. There’s a chance he goes undrafted at this point, and if he does get selected he is going late in the draft barring he picks up his play.
Davis is a pleasant surprise, but he still isn’t producing the numbers you’d want from a nhl drafted 5’10” winger. Outside looking in to be drafted, but should be a great OHL player.
Carson Woodall has me interested, could be a mid round selection if not higher if he keeps up his play from early in the season because all he has done is improve since he was drafted into the OHL. That being said, he’s still on the outside looking in to he drafted.
Eichler in don’t see a case for him to be drafted. Small defender who doen’t provide offence and is a late birthday so less runway to develop. Stranger things have happened.
OHLTG
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There we go...
Christopoulos and Dionicio go to Saginaw for Mancini, Zhugin, 2nd, 2nd, 4th.
So far...
Christopoulos and Dionicio go to Saginaw for Mancini, Zhugin, 2nd, 2nd, 4th.
So far...
There goes half the offence...
However they were probably going anyways. Might as well get something for them...
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StingUpdates
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One wonders how many more picks u acquire for 2 high end guys if u don't bring on 2 fairly solid guys in return.
Obviously probably had to be done to make it happen, but two 2nds, 4th for a 50G man & arguably the top import Dman doesn't feel like a lot.
But better than nothing & should help begin the recoup process.
Obviously probably had to be done to make it happen, but two 2nds, 4th for a 50G man & arguably the top import Dman doesn't feel like a lot.
But better than nothing & should help begin the recoup process.
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