Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 4)

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rve24

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Again read my post. You obviously didn't, maybe you had to many pops last night, not sure. Bit I definitely have trashed on Onuska, he is trash, No? Hes not OHL starting goalie. I didnt say he wasnt trash. I said I didnt say" he stole my starter", I never said that. Onuska and Medina were carried most of last year, that's facts. so take a look again and process it a little slower. 90 percent of this board agrees hes trash. And I've said it before it's nothing against him as a person hes been a good teammate and that's probably the biggest reason he still has a spot on this team but there's a line that needs to be drawn this is the best junior league in the world, cant win championships with a below average goalie, Constanzo will have to stay strong or Onuska play beyond his current ability if were going to win. I'm not sure what team you've been watching this year or why your trying to argue for the sake of arguing, I'm done responding to a wall, how about go onto OHL and do some stats research, I have nothing else to prove or say. You can find all your info there to what this teams problems are and have been the last two years.

Have your self a great day.
Cheers!
Go Spitfires

Not sure why you felt you had to prove anything but I'm glad you have nothing else to prove as u said. And also funny I said JC should play more. We agree :)
Just not into anonymously trashing kids from behind a screeen online and calling them garbage. With all the crap they deal with they dont need that stuff on top. You can get your point across on a fan message board without the trashing.

Have yourself a great day.
 

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…….so I’ll wager a guess that Hunter got the best of the deal trading Onuska to the Spits ….. it a gift that keeps on giving 😊
 

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This is the best junior league in the world, idk how many times ive said that. If these kids cant handle criticism and a little pressure from fans, media, management and so on then I'd say this isnt the league for them, and probably wont make it anywhere far in hockey especially in the day of social media. Oh i forgot we need to baby everyone now and hold hands and sing kumbaya we dont want to hurt feelings. this is a business first and there's always someone eager to step in and steal spots. I've had a long leash with Onuska coming into this year i expected big things from him as an OA and there's been little to no difference from last year to this year and probably worse. It's been extremely frustrating as fans when you see the problem and the coaches and management keep forcing it, this team has clearly lost faith in him, cant stop the puck when you need him to or make a big save to keep us in it, there's just been none of that. Constanzo should be getting 80-90 percent of the starts the rest of the way if were not going to upgrade Onuska.

Anyways hope Sunday this team has a fire under them because we need to see a difference. Constanzo is almost a lock to start so hoping the youngster comes to play and show this management who deserves it. Were going to need a Dipietro type of playoff performance from him to have a chance in these playoffs.

Go Spitfires Go
 

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This is the best junior league in the world, idk how many times ive said that. If these kids cant handle criticism and a little pressure from fans, media, management and so on then I'd say this isnt the league for them, and probably wont make it anywhere far in hockey especially in the day of social media. Oh i forgot we need to baby everyone now and hold hands and sing kumbaya we dont want to hurt feelings. this is a business first and there's always someone eager to step in and steal spots. I've had a long leash with Onuska coming into this year i expected big things from him as an OA and there's been little to no difference from last year to this year and probably worse. It's been extremely frustrating as fans when you see the problem and the coaches and management keep forcing it, this team has clearly lost faith in him, cant stop the puck when you need him to or make a big save to keep us in it, there's just been none of that. Constanzo should be getting 80-90 percent of the starts the rest of the way if were not going to upgrade Onuska.

Anyways hope Sunday this team has a fire under them because we need to see a difference. Constanzo is almost a lock to start so hoping the youngster comes to play and show this management who deserves it. Were going to need a Dipietro type of playoff performance from him to have a chance in these playoffs.

Go Spitfires Go
Guaranteed that the critical forums are from those that have never played hockey except on their video games.
 

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So a few thoughts from yesterday.
Onuska - Costanzo Costanzo right now has almost identical numbers to Brochu in London. He is top 5 in the league and watching him we see why. Onuska was stellar last year in the playoffs so you know he can bring it. To me there is a clear #1 . The other factor ( see HL I can use that word as well) is Onuska's nagging injury. His mobility is clearly an issue. At some point he needs to play less games. We might very well need a healthy Onuska in the playoffs. This decision seems to be a struggle for the coaching staff, not to me.

Even Costanzo would have lost last night. Maybe it would have been 3 or 4 goals but no goalie was winning that game.

Maggio had a bad game as well as most others. New team mates some who traveled all day and none have been here more than 3 days.

Defense is a team game and Spits are a team that need help on the back end, enter the forward group to support. They got no help last night. New D will help but just like the start of the year it will take 10 games or so to get this group in sinc.

Sarina is likely going to be the team to beat this year. Spits were not ready for what they were up against. They will be ready next time or it will be a short year. This group will be ready by March. Too many experienced players not to be.

P.S. why did Mediama take Greentree's spot on the top line?

Go Spits Go!!!
 

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The only logic I see from starting Onuska yesterday, with the result - and leaving him in for 6, was just to prove it’s time to move on.

Who watches that game and goes, that’s a great fill of an OA spot?

After 3, I was ready to yank him. He had no chance, he was being left out to dry, I’ll give Onuska props, he handled being left out there to be embarrassed a lot better than Patrick Roy did.

The spits are all in for the 2023 playoffs, and I just don’t see any time down the stretch where we go, okay, let’s take the time build this OA goalies confidence back up.
 

SpitfireHabs1

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Guaranteed that the critical forums are from those that have never played hockey except on their video games.
And you leaving a random message on our teams board makes you an expert or right? and not knowing me at all or others on ther board means you literally no nothing about me or others on this site just like me I dont know you or others and to be honest couldn't care any less I'm on here to discuss hockey not who you are are anything about you. Just because you say something or type something doesn't make you correct. I've played hockey all my life, and had season tickets for almost 15 years up until a few years ago, so yeah I'm no expert forsure but I sure as hell am a huge hockey fan and spitfire fan and have knowledge of this game. What makes you some kind of judge on here, like who are you haha, firing comments off with no knowledge. Either discuss the windsor spitfires or take a hike, font come on this board to troll, leave your comments to yourself or talk hockey!
 

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Ok so ive got a bit of an opinion, in fact a few. While i like the additions BB missed something imho, he got skill but no GRIT! Imho this team needed some grit on the back end. So yes i like the moves but im deeply concerned we didnt get the one player really needed.
Ok, Onuska, whatever the injury is is a problem and frankly he looks to have totally lost his confidence, really a problem for a goalie!! I might even be agreeable that if a better option is out there they should look at it. Spits simply were not winning that game last night. Ill leave the whys up to the staff.
Im afraid BB is a bit of a Dubas style thinker and thats a problem. Teams who lack grit wont get far. This team lacks grit. Theres no one on the team other teams have to think about when bearing down into our zone or our slot. If hes done and this is what were going to work with im concerned!
 

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Im going to leave this just cause im growing very tired of the BS!!! This is a fan site. Some have a ton of knowledge from experience, some think they have a ton of knowledge because they watch or played or know a guy. Some are just passionate fans, some are casual fans. Some even come just to stir the pot.
Understand this, none of us have intimate daily knowledge of the teams inner workings!!
Some of us get bits here and there, take that for what you want.
The constant bickering, yapping, i know more than you BS needs to stop!! Everything i post is opinion unless i specify different, my assumption is that goes for everyone! Is there any chance some of us can grow thicker skins? Stop taking pot shots? Ignore comments you dont like or RESPECTFULLY argue your point??? Getting personal or quoting nonsense shows your not sure of your argument! Theres quite a few knowledgeable hockey people in our area maybe if this site is treated as an asset to learn we may gain a better understanding of the team and the game!!!
 

hockeylegend11

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So a few thoughts from yesterday.
Onuska - Costanzo Costanzo right now has almost identical numbers to Brochu in London. He is top 5 in the league and watching him we see why. Onuska was stellar last year in the playoffs so you know he can bring it. To me there is a clear #1 . The other factor ( see HL I can use that word as well) is Onuska's nagging injury. His mobility is clearly an issue. At some point he needs to play less games. We might very well need a healthy Onuska in the playoffs. This decision seems to be a struggle for the coaching staff, not to me.

Even Costanzo would have lost last night. Maybe it would have been 3 or 4 goals but no goalie was winning that game.

Maggio had a bad game as well as most others. New team mates some who traveled all day and none have been here more than 3 days.

Defense is a team game and Spits are a team that need help on the back end, enter the forward group to support. They got no help last night. New D will help but just like the start of the year it will take 10 games or so to get this group in sinc.

Sarina is likely going to be the team to beat this year. Spits were not ready for what they were up against. They will be ready next time or it will be a short year. This group will be ready by March. Too many experienced players not to be.

P.S. why did Mediama take Greentree's spot on the top line?

Go Spits Go!!!
Miedema played on the top line and picked up 2 assists on Wednesday, can see why he was there again last night.
Maybe the fact that Maggio and Harrison have played together,and Miedema and Harrison are billet mates now,who knows,think I would put Harrison,Miedema together with Abraham when he is ready hopefully soon as this week, while Maggio stays with Greentree and Maillet.
As for Onuska, why not bring up Michelone from La Salle,have him here till near the playoffs and perhaps Onuska could be rehabbed, though it appears the summer of healing and rehab didn't work.
Michelone is playing great in La Salle since arriving there 2.36 average,929 save per centage, 10-2-1,he has 10 games of OHL experience which is 5 more then Onuska when he arrived here last year.
Would save from going out and getting a tender.
 

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O is playing extremely lazy in net!
Yes he is supposed to be an extra calm goalie, but not sitting back and allowing opponents to easily beat him. No stick check, no cutting down angles, just stationary. 5 goals a game is ridiculous for an OHL goalie. Michilone is a much better option. As well, the team seem to have no confidence playing behind him.
No choice, make a move!
 

hockeylegend11

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Ok so ive got a bit of an opinion, in fact a few. While i like the additions BB missed something imho, he got skill but no GRIT! Imho this team needed some grit on the back end. So yes i like the moves but im deeply concerned we didnt get the one player really needed.
Ok, Onuska, whatever the injury is is a problem and frankly he looks to have totally lost his confidence, really a problem for a goalie!! I might even be agreeable that if a better option is out there they should look at it. Spits simply were not winning that game last night. Ill leave the whys up to the staff.
Im afraid BB is a bit of a Dubas style thinker and thats a problem. Teams who lack grit wont get far. This team lacks grit. Theres no one on the team other teams have to think about when bearing down into our zone or our slot. If hes done and this is what were going to work with im concerned!
Actually you will see Dionicio was picked for the reason or one of them as he gets used to used being here,he and Castle arrived here with no practice, just like Harrison and Holmes did the game before no practice just play.
As for the goaltending and Onuska as I mentioned above bring in Michelone from La Salle and if Onuska needs rehab so be it, better then trying to get a back up now,besides I am confident with those in the organization be it Michelone, Froggett or Altiman,rather then outside help.
And if you want to part with Onuska and bring in an OA with grit do that rather then the rehab route.
Regardless something needs to be done.
 

rve24

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This is the best junior league in the world, idk how many times ive said that. If these kids cant handle criticism and a little pressure from fans, media, management and so on then I'd say this isnt the league for them, and probably wont make it anywhere far in hockey especially in the day of social media. Oh i forgot we need to baby everyone now and hold hands and sing kumbaya we dont want to hurt feelings. this is a business first and there's always someone eager to step in and steal spots. I've had a long leash with Onuska coming into this year i expected big things from him as an OA and there's been little to no difference from last year to this year and probably worse. It's been extremely frustrating as fans when you see the problem and the coaches and management keep forcing it, this team has clearly lost faith in him, cant stop the puck when you need him to or make a big save to keep us in it, there's just been none of that. Constanzo should be getting 80-90 percent of the starts the rest of the way if were not going to upgrade Onuska.


Go Spitfires Go

No one said they need to be babied. Hold hands or sing a song lol.
Most of these players don't have careers on hockey moving forward. It's only a stepping stone for a few.
As Teflon and OHLTG have done, you can voice a criticism with personally trashing a player on a public forum. Calling them garbahe.
They are teens. Since ya like stats....There are stats out there you can look up to see how they are affected. Mental Health sites and ER personnel. Real life stats not +/- or GAA
 

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Actually you will see Dionicio was picked for the reason or one of them as he gets used to used being here,he and Castle arrived here with no practice, just like Harrison and Holmes did the game before no practice just play.
As for the goaltending and Onuska as I mentioned above bring in Michelone from La Salle and if Onuska needs rehab so be it, better then trying to get a back up now,besides I am confident with those in the organization be it Michelone, Froggett or Altiman,rather then outside help.
And if you want to part with Onuska and bring in an OA with grit do that rather then the rehab route.
Regardless something needs to be done.
Yes we all know something needs to de done but we don't really know what the options are re - who has Bowler talked to and has he been turned down on a trade or maybe nobody else wants to move a goalie? Good thing is we do have internal options and as long as there are cards available Bowler can bring in one of the kids up until Feb 10th. My only concern is none of these internal options have faced OHL level shooters. We've seen in the past how JR B goalies have fared. Sure glad I'm not in Bowlers shoes.
 
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rve24

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Many here have seen most or all of the games.
Does the team play noticeably different when one G is playing over the other?
Or has it been one is just better? (Eye test not stats)
It's a rough spot for for BB as outsider said.
 
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hockeylegend11

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Yes we all know something needs to de done but we don't really know what the options are re - who has Bowler talked to and has he been turned down on a trade or maybe nobody else wants to move a goalie? Good thing is we do have internal options and as long as there are cards available Bowler can bring in one of the kids up until Feb 10th. My only concern is none of these internal options have faced OHL level shooters. We've seen in the past how JR B goalies have fared. Sure glad I'm not in Bowlers shoes.
Actually Michelone has 10 games experience playing last year with Flint as a 17 year old, 6'2-205,and remember last year near this time Onuska was brought in,he was 19 and had 5 games experience, 2 last season,and 3 the year before Covid wiped out everything.

Many here have most or all of the games.
Does the team play noticeably different when one G is playing over the other?
Or has it been one is just better? (Eye test not stats)
It's a rough spot for for BB as outsider said.
Both team and goalie eye test backs it up and the numbers reflect things as well
 

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No one said they need to be babied. Hold hands or sing a song lol.
Most of these players don't have careers on hockey moving forward. It's only a stepping stone for a few.
As Teflon and OHLTG have done, you can voice a criticism with personally trashing a player on a public forum. Calling them garbahe.
They are teens. Since ya like stats....There are stats out there you can look up to see how they are affected. Mental Health sites and ER personnel. Real life stats not +/- or GAA
That's fine to have your opinion. It's a woke society now and yeah you have to baby players now, that's just how it is now and that's alright, times have changed its 2023 But I'm not here to talk mental health and get deep with you here man, if a player in the OHL cares about a fan calling him a garbage hockey player when hes in the OHL then there's a bigger problem, that's not that harsh lol it's a reality right now we can all see it. I haven't said anything personally bad about this young man, I've actually said I'm sure hes well liked and a great teammate, I absolutely have nothing against him personally but I'm hear to talk hockey and are goalie not stopping the puck enough all season has well deserved to be criticized. It's not all rainbows and sunshine in hockey or life and that's fine if you want to paint your posts like that but I have something called passion for my team and I want to win games and see my team succeed. I dont enjoy seeing are coaches start a goalie who has not earned it all season. Its frustrating as fans to watch the problem and it just keeps happening all year and yeah I'm entitled to an opinion on it, just like yourself, you can disagree that's fine my feeling aren't hurt. But Putting up +4GAA and a 870SV% is garbage, so sorry if that hurts your feelings or Onuskas as well but as I said that's my opinion. If that sounds to harsh which I dont know how maybe hit the block button because I'm not going to filter out my opinion.

Have a good One!!
Cheers!👍🍻🙏
 

nelli27

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Actually you will see Dionicio was picked for the reason or one of them as he gets used to used being here,he and Castle arrived here with no practice, just like Harrison and Holmes did the game before no practice just play.
As for the goaltending and Onuska as I mentioned above bring in Michelone from La Salle and if Onuska needs rehab so be it, better then trying to get a back up now,besides I am confident with those in the organization be it Michelone, Froggett or Altiman,rather then outside help.
And if you want to part with Onuska and bring in an OA with grit do that rather then the rehab route.
Regardless something needs to be done.
Agree. The newbies will be fine once they get used to the system, teammates, etc...
RE: Goaltending...also agree that JC should be starter. As for backup, it's unlikely that Michelone is better than Onuska at this time. So, it would only make sense to call up the rookie if Spits move Onuska for some other (non-goalie) OA. Speaking of goalies, I saw your grandkids wearing Brochu jerseys the other day. Lol!
 
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