Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)

[spits]

I can see him becoming a winger in windsor. Again we go skilled player, skating issues…. Remind you a a kid traded away this year? Hope hes a gamer! Love to have some more input in him.

lol you wanted more toughness, sounds like he is a power forward that goes hard to the net lol.

 

[OHLTG]

They needed every area in this draft. A 6'4 power forward who can score and use his size? I'll take that.

 

[Cherrydon]

Jack Nesbitt is our guy.

I actually profiled Nesbitt for Brock’s mock draft. Here’s what I wrote:

First thing that jumps out when talking about Nesbitt is his size, Nesbitt stands at 6’4” already at 16. He is a big, rangy centreman that uses his size well, he gets a lot of his goals within 6’ of the goal mouth and is very good at battling for pucks down low. Definitely a budding power-forward - Nesbitt started the year off on a torrid pace but cooled down in the second half of the season, skating could be a concern.

Ranked 12th, likely as Ernie Harwell would say. That one is long gone. I realize German you're not from the Detroit area but famous Baseball legend quote.

Ranked 12th, likely as Ernie Harwell would say. That one is long gone. I realize German you're not from the Detroit area but famous Baseball legend quote.

Awesome call on Nesbitt you called it. Great job!!!

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Ranked 12th, likely as Ernie Harwell would say. That one is long gone. I realize German you're not from the Detroit area but famous Baseball legend quote.

I actually had him ranked 8th in my final ranking.

I’m extremely happy about this selection.

Not going to say he is nothing like Miedema, but he plays the game the right way and is able to use his size to his advantage and most importantly gives a consistent effort every shift. Not much “flash“ out of this kid.

skating is the big concern, and the reason I feel he “slipped“ is because of how much his production fell off in the second half of the year.

 

[spits]

Nesbitt was ranked 12th by Elite Prospects. Had 49 points in 28 games. Scouting report said he's tough to knock off the puck and a nightmare on the cycle. You guys wanted more toughness and grit, well here you go. Sounds a bit similar to Greentree by the reports.

 

[Teflon]

If i can get someone who knows his game to tell me he plays a physical, hard working style im in! The skating is likely off because of his size at this age. Just dont want another soft but skilled guy lol. Keep the info coming guys!

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Clearly Pitre didn't want to be here so they obliged him and his agent,who clearly had a relationship with Flint as this past draft they selected his brother Kaden a forward in the 1st rd.
How can fault Bowler is beyond me,a player with 0 OHL,average camp,didn't play for over a year because of covid at the time,plus now 2 years gone by and who has been the better and more successful team in that time frame,not close.
And now tonight Spits pick a 5th rounder to complete that trade of a prospect not proven who asked out.
Flint with the selection of his brother Kaden in the 1st could have had Christoforo as they were selecting 4 picks earlier,then in the 2nd at 33 they picked forward but have had Greentree who went 34th,and then in the 3rd they took a dman at 45,then Windsor took Spellacy at 63.
The younger Pitre had 7G,4A in 63 games,the other 2 picks had 6pts combined for a total of 17,while Christoforo had 41 points,Greentree 45 and Spellacy 17 which equaled the Flint players chosen combined.
And yet u question Bowler.
Funny we hear nothing but crickets from te Costanzo trade a 4th rounder and all did was finish 5th best for average and save per centage in the league and the youngest too at 17.
Yeah we should listen to you Razor lol.


Birkett was signed early summer after being at a camp tryout that Pitre chose
not to attend.
Besides he wanted to sign Pitre didn't big difference

Good job of really ignoring what I said. You do a great job of that. Cristoforo/Spellacy/Greentree have absolutely nothing to do with Pitre. You clearly believe Bowler hasn't done a bad thing except for keeping Onuska but you also blamed Savard. We all know why you do that.

Birkett has played 25 games over 2 years let that marinate. Pitre will be an NHL draft pick and all you got was a 5th rounder. Terrible use of assets.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Good job of really ignoring what I said. You do a great job of that. Cristoforo/Spellacy/Greentree have absolutely nothing to do with Pitre. You clearly believe Bowler hasn't done a bad thing except for keeping Onuska but you also blamed Savard. We all know why you do that.

Birkett has played 25 games over 2 years let that marinate. Pitre will be an NHL draft pick and all you got was a 5th rounder. Terrible use of assets.

Birkett was a 9th round pick who wanted to be here, Pitre was a 4th in the same draft who didnt want to be here,get over yourself Bowler could have held on to him for 2 years but didn't he did what his agent asked let that marinate,hockey all about relationships including agents which in your rigid world you cant relate to.
Besides how do you know the player Windsor chooses tomorrow doesn't flourish a year or so from now,you know but it's ok to judge a trade before its completion.
And no I blame Savard more then Bowler for the Onuska situation, thankfully Bowler covered Savard's ass by getting Costanzo for a 4th round pick something you have never acknowledged not surprised though seeing that your posts are mainly negative.
My view player doesn't want to be here,its not wrong to accommodate sometimes more beneficial do an agent a solid it gets paid back,too bad u cant acknowledge that,you would know if u were close to the scene but u aren't.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Birkett was a 9th round pick who wanted to be here, Pitre was a 4th in the same draft who didnt want to be here,get over yourself Bowler could have held on to him for 2 years but didn't he did what his agent asked let that marinate,hockey all about relationships including agents which in your rigid world you cant relate to.
Besides how do you know the player Windsor chooses tomorrow doesn't flourish a year or so from now,you know but it's ok to judge a trade before its completion.
And no I blame Savard more then Bowler for the Onuska situation, thankfully Bowler covered Savard's ass by getting Costanzo for a 4th round pick something you have never acknowledged not surprised though seeing that your posts are mainly negative.
My view player doesn't want to be here,its not wrong to accommodate sometimes more beneficial do an agent a solid it gets paid back,too bad u cant acknowledge that,you would know if u were close to the scene but u aren't.

Yes you're a regular insider. We get it Rychel didn't make mistakes and neither has Bowler. If they never made mistakes why don't they win every year??? Quit your act of fake insider and holier than thou BS.

 

[rve24]

Good job of really ignoring what I said. You do a great job of that. Cristoforo/Spellacy/Greentree have absolutely nothing to do with Pitre. You clearly believe Bowler hasn't done a bad thing except for keeping Onuska but you also blamed Savard. We all know why you do that.

Birkett has played 25 games over 2 years let that marinate. Pitre will be an NHL draft pick and all you got was a 5th rounder. Terrible use of assets.

Agreed, most know why he does it..The best was a couple years back "you dont buy tics so u aint a fan and shouldnt post on here" paraphrasing lol. (I would love to talk to a moderator about this without bringing up specifics up in public).....just one example of flip floppping or perceived hypocrisy. Ignore, defend at all costs, spin spin spin. To each their own, it's all good.
Never answers a question just picks up goalposts and ignores any and every talking point that doesn't involve bowing down to authority...... I couldn't do it personally but that's just me.

I'll give hom credit for consistency lol.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Yes you're a regular insider. We get it Rychel didn't make mistakes and neither has Bowler. If they never made mistakes why don't they win every year??? Quit your act of fake insider and holier than thou BS.

All GMs make mistakes and people like you pounce on them and say little if anything about the good things so get off your high horse for once,believe me your infrequent posting the last couple of years has been a blessing.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Agreed, most know why he does it..The best was a couple years back "you dont buy tics so u aint a fan and shouldnt post on here" paraphrasing lol. (I would love to talk to a moderator about this without bringing up specifics up in public).....just one example of flip floppping or perceived hypocrisy. Ignore, defend at all costs, spin spin spin. To each their own, it's all good.
Never answers a question just picks up goalposts and ignores any and every talking point that doesn't involve bowing down to authority...... I couldn't do it personally but that's just me.

I'll give hom credit for consistency lol.

If this were a hockey game you would be tossed out frequently for 3rd man in,I give u credit I wouldn't do it,think I m the forum police,at least your consistent always bringing up the past.

 

[rve24]

Birkett was a 9th round pick who wanted to be here, Pitre was a 4th in the same draft who didnt want to be here,get over yourself Bowler could have held on to him for 2 years but didn't he did what his agent asked let that marinate,hockey all about relationships including agents which in your rigid world you cant relate to.
Besides how do you know the player Windsor chooses tomorrow doesn't flourish a year or so from now,you know but it's ok to judge a trade before its completion.
And no I blame Savard more then Bowler for the Onuska situation, thankfully Bowler covered Savard's ass by getting Costanzo for a 4th round pick something you have never acknowledged not surprised though seeing that your posts are mainly negative.
My view player doesn't want to be here,its not wrong to accommodate sometimes more beneficial do an agent a solid it gets paid back,too bad u cant acknowledge that,you would know if u were close to the scene but u aren't.

So much to ask about based on your public posting history ......but I'll only ask why is Onuska on Savard if BB is his boss? If BB is a real GM he could sign whoever he wanted. Eg. Kept X, cut O, found another tender........of course you blame Savard, he isn't the horse you think u need to tie your wagon to.

I got a feeling you feel Savard moves on before BB so you are choosing that horse to hitch your wagon to? For what purpose
....I dunno Or kinda think I do know.

 

[hockeylegend11]

So much to ask about based on your public posting history ......but I'll only ask why is Onuska on Savard if BB is his boss? If BB is a real GM he could spne whatever he wanted. Eg. Kept X, cut O, found another tender........of course you blame Savard, he isn't the horse you think u need to tie your wagon to.

Yrs I think accomadting players m agents is necessary. Picking the wrong player to back is a evaluation, Projection issue. Which happened with Pitrie. It's no biggie it happens to every team. It's ok to say, hey they missed that one. Happens to every team. No need to defend at all costs lol unless there is a reason?
I got a feeling you feel Savard moves on before BB so you are choosing that horse to hitch your wagon to? For what purpose
....I dunno

There are times when a GM will allow a coach to keep a particular player goalie or otherwise over his own view for many reasons and u show know this and it happened here,and u know I have been consistent with my view from the beginning and ultimately was proven right,thankfully Costanzo saved the regular season which I admit was a complete surprise and bonus for Windsor excellent acquisition by Bowler which some wont acknowledge.
As for Pitre he was done a solid, he was a 4th round pick who was ok in camp not great,I know I saw every workout/scrimmage if he was great I would have said so.
Let's just say his agent didn't do Flint any good by having them draft his brother this past year in the 1st,when he could have had Christoforo or Greentree in the 1st, or on the GM in the 2nd he could have had Greentree, they had the 33rd pick,Windsor the next one.
To bitch about a player not here because he wanted out is a waste of time,not talking about you.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

All GMs make mistakes and people like you pounce on them and say little if anything about the good things so get off your high horse for once,believe me your infrequent posting the last couple of years has been a blessing.

My high horse?? Might want to look at yourself in the mirror.

 

[hockeylegend11]

My high horse?? Might want to look at yourself in the mirror.

I did look in the mirror and saw you lol

 

[rve24]

If this were a hockey game you would be tossed out frequently for 3rd man in,I give u credit I wouldn't do it,think I m the forum police,at least your consistent always bringing up the past.

Past lol. ThYs rich haha.
As I've posted at least 50x HL let's publicly share all we got. You ignore, deflect, shift, flip flop, move goalposts.
I'll gladly be and have offeted to be 1st man in but you always run n hide when called out publicly. I've answered alot of your questions directly. When ur asked qurstions directly you shift, deflect, avoid, cry foul but necessarily answer. I have. It's public. Posts are saved. I gave you the respect yo answer questions or try to talk, u never did. And now this. You need to be called out for your BS.
You insult, demean, cry foul, ask not to disclose stuff after attacking people n u pull this card lol. You gotta have a short memory. Again I'm all good with sharing it all............ let's agree to do it.
The one deemed a hypocrit doesn't post for 2 years........I know you won't take that bet..........there ya go.......1st man in. Friendly wager. You up or are u a poke n run n hide type player?





I'd think a more appropriate analogy would be when confronted or challenged directly you shift, don't answer, try to hide your posts in PMs, cry foul when you get called out forr what you do......

 

[hockeylegend11]

Nesbitt was ranked 12th by Elite Prospects. Had 49 points in 28 games. Scouting report said he's tough to knock off the puck and a nightmare on the cycle. You guys wanted more toughness and grit, well here you go. Sounds a bit similar to Greentree by the reports.

Here's hoping that Windsor 's 1st pick tomorrow in the 5th is dman Thanasi Marentette from Windsor, tough gritty dman
Looking forward to the rest of the draft today,10 picks in the last 12 rounds.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Past lol. ThYs rich haha.
As I've posted at least 50x HL let's publicly share all we got. You ignore, deflect, shift, flip flop, move goalposts.
I'll gladly be and have offeted to be 1st man in but you always run n hide when called out publicly. I've answered alot of your questions directly. When ur asked qurstions directly you shift, deflect, avoid, cry foul but necessarily answer. I have. It's public. Posts are saved. I gave you the respect yo answer questions or try to talk, u never did. And now this. You need to be called out for your BS.
You insult, demean, cry foul, ask not to disclose stuff after attacking people n u pull this card lol. You gotta have a short memory. Again I'm all good with sharing it all............ let's agree to do it.
The one deemed a hypocrit doesn't post for 2 years........I know you won't take that bet..........there ya go.......1st man in. Friendly wager. You up or are u a poke n run n hide type player?





I'd think a more appropriate analogy would be when confronted or challenged directly you shift, don't answer, try to hide your posts in PMs, cry foul when you get called out forr what you do......

I will give you credit for 1 thing,you posted about this more times then I criticized Onuska this season.
When will you realize nobody cares.
We all want to talk hockey not grievances nobody here cares about your drama, u have a problem with someone go PM,oh I forgot you dont believe in Pms.
I talking about the draft nothing else

 

[rve24]

There are times when a GM will allow a coach to keep a particular player goalie or otherwise over his own view for many reasons and u show know this and it happened here,and u know I have been consistent with my view from the beginning and ultimately was proven right,thankfully Costanzo saved the regular season which I admit was a complete surprise and bonus for Windsor excellent acquisition by Bowler which some wont acknowledge.
As for Pitre he was done a solid, he was a 4th round pick who was ok in camp not great,I know I saw every workout/scrimmage if he was great I would have said so.
Let's just say his agent didn't do Flint any good by having them draft his brother this past year in the 1st,when he could have had Christoforo or Greentree in the 1st, or on the GM in the 2nd he could have had Greentree, they had the 33rd pick,Windsor the next one.
To bitch about a player not here because he wanted out is a waste of time,not talking about you.

Geesh how many things can u bring into a post that were non related to the original topic lol.
Agent made Flints 1st rd pick........revelance to original issue???????? Of evaluating talent of a single player?
Our are ya you bitter an agent choose Flint over Windsor. ( before ya think it's a dig on WS, I said today thst happens yo all teams)
It looks like you are by expanding it to agent made Flint pick his bro rd 1 and see its ok BB didn't sign pitrie lol.
You got sone awesome dot connecting and justifications for errors made but don't apply the same logic to the other 19 teams.

Keep.on deflecting

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Geesh how many things can u bring into a post that were non related to the original topic lol.
Agent made Flints 1st rd pick........revelance to original issue???????? Of evaluating talent of a single player?
Our are ya you bitter an agent choose Flint over Windsor. ( before ya think it's a dig on WS, I said today thst happens yo all teams)
It looks like you are by expanding it to agent made Flint pick his bro rd 1 and see its ok BB didn't sign pitrie lol.
You got sone awesome dot connecting and justifications for errors made but don't apply the same logic to the other 19 teams.

Keep.on deflecting

Legend connecting the dots.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Geesh how many things can u bring into a post that were non related to the original topic lol.
Agent made Flints 1st rd pick........revelance to original issue???????? Of evaluating talent of a single player?
Our are ya you bitter an agent choose Flint over Windsor. ( before ya think it's a dig on WS, I said today thst happens yo all teams)
It looks like you are by expanding it to agent made Flint pick his bro rd 1 and see its ok BB didn't sign pitrie lol.
You got sone awesome dot connecting and justifications for errors made but don't apply the same logic to the other 19 teams.

Keep.on deflecting

I am not bitter at all at the agent.
Clearly he has a relationship with Flint,and Flint chose the other Pitre in the 1st who happened to have the same agent,not sure Flint made a wise choice when they made their selection ,they only knew the agent could deliver the other Pitre and the selection was made.
Hey good for them works for me

 

[rve24]

I will give you credit for 1 thing,you posted about this more times then I criticized Onuska this season.
When will you realize nobody cares.
We all want to talk hockey not grievances nobody here cares about your drama, u have a problem with someone go PM,oh I forgot you dont believe in Pms.
I talking about the draft nothing else

Again your 1st sentence is factually incorrect. But carry on lol. Cause you say it don't make it true. Bet ya can't find stats to back up your statement....incorrect again.

Again deflecting HL. So no to the challenge i gave ya lol? Knew you wouldn't accept and would go from attack to no one wantts to hear it, next up I'd the victim card....classic.
Your weak attempt at a 3rd man in dig got called out and the shifting starts instead of iwning your attack. At least try n defend your attacks or do you know if we share it isn't in your interests? I got no problem defending my posts. Do you? Cause got a stats poster you lack proof or stats on your posts to me. I got em and off to share but you never accept after your public pot shots.
fFunny how the attacks turn to walking away n saying no one is interested when confronted with an opportunity to be transparent)

I'd wager most would be in favour of the hypocritical challenge and loser doesnt post for 2 years. But as you PMd you have a 2nd account I quote " monitor" posts lol. Then backtracked. Then.......lol
And again it's public posts or saved PMs. Tired of you crying n playing victim card after your attacks get called out for BS agenda driven drivel they are.
Step.up n own it. I will. Bet you won't.

And it can be done civilly if you are up to that.

I am not bitter at all at the agent.
Clearly he has a relationship with Flint,and Flint chose the other Pitre in the 1st who happened to have the same agent,not sure Flint made a wise choice when they made their selection ,they only knew the agent could deliver the other Pitre and the selection was made.
Hey good for them works for me

"Let's just say his agent didn't do Flint any good by having them draft his brother this past year in the 1st,"
So did Flint make the choice or the agent. You have said both in posts 10 minutes apart lol.
If another teams GM made the same choice.............ya we all get it.n why ya do it And we can a
Share when ya step n accept it instead of crying your 3rd man analogy

 

[DetSpitsFan]

If i can get someone who knows his game to tell me he plays a physical, hard working style im in! The skating is likely off because of his size at this age. Just dont want another soft but skilled guy lol. Keep the info coming guys!

I agree with this. While skating is a huge part of hockey, it’s the big difference maker between Minors and Pros, however, with the other tools, you can be a successful OHL player.

While I’d love to see our draft picks succeed, I’m more of a Spits fan than any NHL team. While I want the kids to have further success, I want to see W’s in Windsor.

I’m fine with skating not being there. Most these young tall kids are growing into their bodies. If the grind and effort is there, it can make mediocre skating passable at this level

 

[hockeylegend11]

Again your 1st sentence is factually incorrect. But carry on lol. Cause you say it don't make it true. Bet ya can't find stats to back up your statement....incorrect again.


Again deflecting HL. So no to the challenge i fave ya lol?
Your weak attempt at a 3rd man in dig got called out and the shift starts. At least try n defend your attacks or do you know if we share it isn't in your interests?
fFunny how the attacks turn to walking away n saying no one is interested when confronted with an opportunity to be transparent.

I'd wager most would be in favour of the hypocritical challenge and liser decent post for 2 years. But as you PMd you have a 2nd account I quote " monitor" posts lol.
And again it's public posts or saved PMs. Tired of you crying n playing victim card after your attacks get called out fir BS agenda driven they are.
Step.up n own it. I will.


"Let's just say his agent didn't do Flint any good by having them draft his brother this past year in the 1st,"
So did Flint make the choice or the agent. You have said both in posts 10 minutes apart lol.
If another teams GM made the same choice.............ya we all get it.n why ya do it And we can a
Share when ya step n accept it instead of crying your 3rd man analogy

Bottom line nobody cares about your grievances with me
Last I knew you are not the forum police and acting like one doesn't make it so.