Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)

[OHLTG]

And ya rd 2 KW looked like an 8th seed, so I guess it's more of a Windsor wasn't a true 1 seed?

You could argue Windsor's D wasn't up to snuff with being a top seed, sure. No arguments here. That said, it doesn't remove the fact that hockey people outside of here had the same "The Rangers are better than their record" opinion. "They're much better than an eight seed and Windsor needs to be careful" isn't exactly an excuse or bad thing to say but that could be just me.

As far as the London comment you referenced you are wrong. Totally wrong. But way to defend the org and BK lol. Again that wasn't it lol. Ya coulda just asked instead of assume

I'm not defending anyone. I made an observation. "Legend mentioned London and RVE is a London guy so... two and two?!" Was it the height/weight of Peer? Players often grow at that age so wouldn't have even factored into "what could RVE be thinking is a qualifier?"

The comment was about something else in the post. I'd explain but probly would get a timeout. Those with cred don't need to justify a post, those without........

Sorry, I'm not big on guessing games lol "this is what I was talking about... and now I turn it to you." Easy peasy.

 

[windsor7]

You could argue Windsor's D wasn't up to snuff with being a top seed, sure. No arguments here. That said, it doesn't remove the fact that hockey people outside of here had the same "The Rangers are better than their record" opinion. "They're much better than an eight seed and Windsor needs to be careful" isn't exactly an excuse or bad thing to say but that could be just me.



I'm not defending anyone. I made an observation. "Legend mentioned London and RVE is a London guy so... two and two?!" Was it the height/weight of Peer? Players often grow at that age so wouldn't have even factored into "what could RVE be thinking is a qualifier?"


Sorry, I'm not big on guessing games lol "this is what I was talking about... and now I turn it to you." Easy peasy.

Just a excuse or "factor"
They were a 8th seed. Nothing more.

 

[rve24]

You could argue Windsor's D wasn't up to snuff with being a top seed, sure. No arguments here. That said, it doesn't remove the fact that hockey people outside of here had the same "The Rangers are better than their record" opinion. "They're much better than an eight seed and Windsor needs to be careful" isn't exactly an excuse or bad thing to say but that could be just me.



I'm not defending anyone. I made an observation. "Legend mentioned London and RVE is a London guy so... two and two?!" Was it the height/weight of Peer? Players often grow at that age so wouldn't have even factored into "what could RVE be thinking is a qualifier?"


Sorry, I'm not big on guessing games lol "this is what I was talking about... and now I turn it to you." Easy peasy.

No that wasnt the Peer comment issue lol. Ya want an answer PM. It's not height, weight, Lon, Wind lol. Re ad between the lines of his text, PM or keep pretending ya dont see it. If it's the later I'm truly sorry.

Again, ask those hockey people now to give insight with a larger sample size of the Rangers POs. It was always a crutch to lean on IMO. Just like refs n injuries.
Where those hockey people Spits affiliated for context? Or Player agents with vested interest, pro scouts, minor pro staff, season tic holders, media members with free passes, Spits staff, volunteers.....context matters. Hockey people??????? Heck any oarent with a boy involved at age 5 or up is a "hockey people"

All good here TG. Enjoy the draft n keep on posting n being a fan with passion. Honestly

 

[rve24]

"You could argue Windsor's D wasn't up to snuff with being a top seed, sure. No arguments here. That said, it doesn't remove the fact that hockey people outside of here had the same "The Rangers are better than their record" opinion. "They're much better than an eight seed and Windsor needs to be careful" isn't exactly an excuse or bad thing to say but that could be just me."

Ya it might be just you after a bigger sample size of Ranger PO games. .....

As an aside TG I appreciate your passion.
You did mention maybe Windsors D wasn't up to snuff n "hockey people" talked about regular 8th seed.

I didn't see the games but reading here and seeing highlights I thought it was the offense that didn't meet expectations? This teams identity, for better or worse, was to out score teams. A philosophy supported in large part by BB deadline acquisitions ( Wright n Harrison being 2 high profilrle Fs with offensive pedigree....yes I know Wright provides a solid 200 ft game)
The goalies were OK according to this site vs KTown, the team never was a defensive conscious squad all year so I am left wondering if it was the offense that let them down when push came to shove. You play to your strengths and for whatever reason Windsor couldn't do that when the POs started, last year they could and did great..... and the seed of opponent didn't factor in when successful.

 

[OHLTG]

No that wasnt the Peer comment issue lol.

Re Peer - I'm curious but not THAT worried about it. You can PM me if you want. That's your call. It was literally me going "wonder what he's talking about?"

Re Rangers - The people had nothing to do with the Spitfires' organization.

I thought it was the offense that didn't meet expectations?

Partially yes, partially the Rangers' D gets credit. Going hard either side doesn't tell the full picture IMO

The goalies were OK according to this site vs KTown

The series was kind of proof that stats aren't the "end all", so to speak. I thought Onuska played very well, as did Costanzo, though he had a few more issues.

Oh well... I guess 2023-24 begins on Friday. Let's see what Bowler has up his sleeves.

 

[hockeylegend11]

I don't disagree about the lower rounds; get rid of them if that's the option. However, the question was asked so I answered.


If you mean the London comment... it's a valid piece of info. If Peer's turning down other teams to come to Windsor, that's a good thing and quite relevant to the topic.


I get it. Kitchener lost. Do you REALLY think it's "the very few but loud" fans that are the only ones that said the Rangers "weren't an ordinary 8th seed"? I've heard this so many times and it makes me laugh. Trust me when I say this isn't the only place I've heard it said... and not just by Windsor fans.

Agreed
Sad to see some London fans chirping Windsor on their board,classless but hey they were not saying much last year when London last year choked against Kitchener a 2 (London) vs Kitchener (7th),leading 3-2 in the series and dropping the last 2 games including game 7 at home vs Kitchener
Talk about epic collapse lol.

 

[DetSpitsFan]

I don’t think it’s anyone - but if it was, I’m guessing Abraham - but I have nothing concrete, just speculation.

Which would be unfortunate, because in retrospect… I think Abraham would’ve been more of a game changer vs Kitchener than Wright was…

 

[OHLTG]

Agreed
Sad to see some London fans chirping Windsor on their board,classless but hey they were not saying much last year when London last year choked against Kitchener a 2 (London) vs Kitchener (7th),leading 3-2 in the series and dropping the last 2 games including game 7 at home vs Kitchener
Talk about epic collapse lol.

lol This isn't helping. It was a decent convo, which was nice to see. I don't think Windsor has much room to chirp anytime soon. That's coming from me haha

 

[ohloutsider]

Agreed
Sad to see some London fans chirping Windsor on their board,classless but hey they were not saying much last year when London last year choked against Kitchener a 2 (London) vs Kitchener (7th),leading 3-2 in the series and dropping the last 2 games including game 7 at home vs Kitchener
Talk about epic collapse lol.

Take your lumps and move on. The longer they know they can get to you the longer this will go on. Windsor lost in an epic way, own it.

 

[DetSpitsFan]

23 Goals Against in that series, just 1 Empty Netter.
4.40 GAA for Costantini

See, I told y’all he wasn’t THAT good lol. (Which just makes us sound worse. Only 7 Goals giving Costantini 1.75)

Brochu vs Gaudreau is going to be a fun series to watch, although both seemed stronger - lights out in 21/22 Vs this year.

Biggest surprise right now is Pete’s up 3-1 on Ottawa who had 16 more Wins…

 

[ohloutsider]

23 Goals Against in that series, just 1 Empty Netter.
4.40 GAA for Costantini

See, I told y’all he wasn’t THAT good lol.

Brochu vs Gaudreau is going to be a fun series to watch, although both seemed stronger - lights out in 21/22 Vs this year.

Biggest surprise right now is Pete’s up 3-1 on Ottawa who had 16 more Wins…

Not surprised, I picked the Pete's to win in 5. Still not done but they hold the upper hand for sure.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

RIP to the greatest 8th seed ever. It's hard to win 5 playoff games but win a playoff series but you did. This Bud beer is for you and a few Spitfire fans will honor you on a day into the future. Stay tuned!!!

Agreed
Sad to see some London fans chirping Windsor on their board,classless but hey they were not saying much last year when London last year choked against Kitchener a 2 (London) vs Kitchener (7th),leading 3-2 in the series and dropping the last 2 games including game 7 at home vs Kitchener
Talk about epic collapse lol.

Ummmm Bowler's Spits were a 1 seed that got swept. Before you go dancing on graves make sure that the Spits get it right.

 

[hockeylegend11]

RIP to the greatest 8th seed ever. It's hard to win 5 playoff games but win a playoff series but you did. This Bud beer is for you and a few Spitfire fans will honor you on a day into the future. Stay tuned!!!


Ummmm Bowler's Spits were a 1 seed that got swept. Before you go dancing on graves make sure that the Spits get it right.

Lose in 4 or lose in 6 a loss of a series is a loss, do l like losing no,nose rubbed in it even worse.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Lose in 4 or lose in 6 a loss of a series is a loss, do l like losing no,nose rubbed in it even worse.

You said only championships matter.

 

[OHLTG]

I got curious so did a quick dig...

Best 8th seed in history was the 07-08 Plymouth Whalers with 74pts.

 

[hockeylegend11]

You said only championships matter.

Well if that's the case and I know you wont like this since 2009 Windsor has won more Mem Cups then the rest of the OHL teams combined.

 

[rve24]

Agreed
Sad to see some London fans chirping Windsor on their board,classless but hey they were not saying much last year when London last year choked against Kitchener a 2 (London) vs Kitchener (7th),leading 3-2 in the series and dropping the last 2 games including game 7 at home vs Kitchener
Talk about epic collapse lol.

I posted just as much last year on here during POs once London was out and before, if not more....... so once again you are incorrect if you are referencing me lol. And I gave credit where due this year and last to the Spits. . Can you lay the same claim.........nope. But ya never really care to paint an accurate picture I'll leave the grade school.name calling to you if ya feel ya need to do it. Says alot ya gotta resort to that.

So if London "choked" as a 2 seed and lost in 7, what would you say Windsor did this year in an unprecedended OHL series loss. Ill leave out the # of games n seedings. ....just curious. What is the word you would use that it 5 steps below choked? Never whined here about the match up or injuries. I just gave credit to the better team without leaning on a critch and mentioning factors. It's easy to do.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Agree with a lot you say. If we can convince even 1 US flyer in the 5th or shortly after to head our way it would be a huge help in our re-build. Starting in the 5th we have 10 picks and IMHO it would be worth it to gamble 1/3 of those picks on US flyers.

Speaking of the draft,orginally thought Windsor had 2 picks in the 6th,actually there is 1 in the 5th and 1 in 6th,plus 8 from the 7th to the 15th round
11 selections in all.

I posted just as much last year on here during POs once London was out and before, if not more....... so once again you are incorrect if you are referencing me lol. And I gave credit where due this year and last to the Spits. . Can you lay the same claim.........nope. But ya never really care to paint an accurate picture I'll leave the grade school.name calling to you if ya feel ya need to do it. Says alot ya gotta resort to that.

So if London "choked" as a 2 seed and lost in 7, what would you say Windsor did this year in an unprecedended OHL series loss. Ill leave out the # of games n seedings. ....just curious. What is the word you would use that it 5 steps below choked? Never whined here about the match up or injuries. I just gave credit to the better team without leaning on a critch and mentioning factors. It's easy to do.

Actually from London site wasn't referring to you

 

[rve24]

Well if that's the case and I know you wont like this since 2009 Windsor has won more Mem Cups then the rest of the OHL teams combined.

Never change HL. It just gets more entertaining.

 

[rve24]

Actually from London site wasn't referring to you

My bad. My misread.
Still no need for classlessss comments after the comments you have made personally attacking Knights staff and posters. What nicknames did they give your coach? Or manager, or posters? You have done all that in the past? But ok.

But TY for taking the time to stop by Londons board. Feel free to contribute as well.

 

[Section 103]

Just a excuse or "factor"
They were a 8th seed. Nothing more.

Do you have anything else to add? Cause I been reading the same two post (defends) for the past 27 pages…..
we all agree that Windsor’s defence was lacking the size and grit needed for a long playoff run. We get it! If you are gonna post, at least add something new to the conversation. Please….

 

[OHLTG]

Random thing - the Flint 5th this draft is from the Pitre deal. It was a conditional 6th that must have turned into a 5th with a signing or games played or something.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Random thing - the Flint 5th this draft is from the Pitre deal. It was a conditional 6th that must have turned into a 5th with a signing or games played or something.

Based on my readings would like to see Windsor get either Caden Taylor-Cen
or Shamar Moses-RW with their 1st round selection both big forwards with skill and grit,and with our 5th round pick Dman Thanasi Marentette from Belle River,and with our 6th round pick Reyth Smith-C/Lw from Windsor skill guy with some grit.
Obviously if more skill plus grit guys are still available at rounds 5 and 6 you take them.
I see local goalie Zach Jovanoski is rated 11-15th I could Windsor selecting him in rounds 12-15 if he is still there,might also look at American born dman Cameron Aucoin son of former NHLer Adrian Aucoin late rounds say 14 or 15th,he is committed to playing for Muskegon of the USHL but might be convinced later to play here.
Meant to add forward Julian Gignac rated 7-10th round from this area,his dad Chris played in the OHL as well as minor pro,and a 1st cousin of Spits forward Noah Morneau if he is available after 11 round or so take a flyer on him.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Well if that's the case and I know you wont like this since 2009 Windsor has won more Mem Cups then the rest of the OHL teams combined.

I won't like this even though I was at 2 of them and went to 2 games in 2017. Good story will read again. I'm not the one who said "I only judge titles" Just move those goalposts.

 

[ohloutsider]

Draft tonight. Really only have the potential to pick one OHL ready player with their 1st round pick tonight. Not picking again until 6th round will mean some slim pickins.
I don't follow MM hockey so I look forward to GermanSpitfire's critique of the player the Spits pick tonight. Always nice to have a trusted opinion onboard.