Quantity doesn't equal quality. Before touting drafts as "great" you really have to see what kind of careers they have.Not knocking the players as haven't seen many of them play but bit early to be "tooting the horn" there are many reasons why team could continue signing players from drafts 2-3 years later, like not having enough current picks in early rounds.
Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)
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No question Windsor's draft of last year 2022 especially where they were drafted in other words position Christoforo 21st,Greentree 34th and Spellacy in the 60's and all 3 are rated in the top 22 from the OHL for the 2024 NHL draft and 2 of them Christoforo 5th and Greentree 6th,only team in the O with 2 in the top 10.
Toss in the Cole Davis and Carson Woodall picked in the 4th and 10th already signed and playing and now Froggett drafted in the 6th signed that's impressive and as mentioned I can see another 2 maybe 3 between now and next year being signed.
Teams that can get 6 players per year over 4 cycle (24) plus 3 OA set themselves up well in most cases,toss in some fine trading ie Costanzo for a 4th rounder of this past draft and he wound up top 5 goalie in the league and the youngest of the 5 to boot.
Now your comment re this year's past draft is acknowledged only 11 picks instead of 15 or more and only 1 in the 1st 4 rounds,though I see 3 players signed already signed 1,5,6 and I can project what I saw at the camp probably 2 or 3 more from this draft down the road including 1G,and 2F.
Guess we will see.
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Spits officially have acquired forward Ryan Struthers-Cen(19) from Mississauga for future considerations.
Both Bowler and Coach Gerrod Smith feel he will be a contributing player physical and play Center or wing up a down the line.
Both Bowler and Coach Gerrod Smith feel he will be a contributing player physical and play Center or wing up a down the line.
I’m willing to bet against that based on age, limited games played and lack of production. I’d have given the spot to a developing player. It’s akin to giving a spot to the 19yo goalie.
Now I love the top 3 players we picked, especially looking forward to see what AJ does but let's be honest, only reason we are only team with 2 in top 10 is Misa isn't eligible, also note Missy has 4 players on that list. It is one of our better drafts thanks to AJ not declaring he was playing and is shaping up to be an excellent draft if Davis continues with his showed promise, and Woodall contnues to develop. Just playing the games isn't enough its the impact of their respective careers for us. That's why I choose to wait to measure the sucess.
While I am not expecting a boatload of points from Struthers I do expect he will provide aggressiveness,kill penalties, check,perfect bottom 6 guy with experience.
He has good size,good speed,others in the past have complained about lack of aggression on this team so to me his age is irrelevant but his particular skill set is not.
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Struthers' production right now isn't far off of what Christo's was when he joined Windsor. I'm not expecting a similar jump but there are multiple examples of Windsor bringing in underutilized talents and finding that untapped potential.
Isn't he a 19yr old? That's a helleva leap there.
Yes he's already 19 turns 20 in January 15 points in 93 career games. Reminds me of another 19 year old the Spits acquired last year. Struthers vs Johnston
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OHLTG
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Christo was 19 last season when he had the breakout season. Again, I'm not saying Struthers will do the same (or even close) but I'm not going to shrug him off right away.
Johnston was a bust last year for sure...
Elliott’s freedman confirmed today he will be AHl eligible. do not expect an announcement at all
he’s not good. it’s Joe mizzi 2.0
As I originally commented and stand by, the slot is much better utilized by developing a younger player. Don’t need him, very unlikely to make a difference enough to waste the development time
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I haven't put any numbers on him. In fact, I said I didn't expect him to put up Christo-like jump. Instead, Windsor has a recent history of finding untapped potential and getting the most out of them. Could he end up a flop? Absolutely. But, he could also end up being a valuable piece. He seemed to fit in during camp and got involved in multiple areas of the game. It's a start, if nothing else...
I guess it depends on what you think the goal of the team should be this year. Its nothing personal on the player I just don't see the point in signing a 19yr old this year. The ice time to me would be better served on a 17-18 yr old. He may end up being decent and fun to watch but I will still think we'd been better off getting someone ready for next year. He's a one and done in a year which should be a mini reset like Saginaw did last year. Now if we trade some veterans sooner than later it'd make sense to me.
I think you're forgetting that Christopoulos had 21-22 season. Very good playoff which was used to his advantage. Struthers is already 19. Since you love to play this game. Why is it you mention Christopoulos and not Johnston? This idea of moving assets for players with minimal upside is a fools errand. You can't tell me there's a 17 yr or 18 yr that couldn't provide similar value? If there isn't then the scouts aren't doing their job.
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Well trying to read between the lines and I think your last line makes the most sense. With 4 OA's maybe the thinking is they might move Jodoin and with that lose their "grit". Struthers at 19 could fill that role and not cost them an OA spot. Also do you want a 17 yr old to be the grit on a team in a tough west conference this?
Who really knows what Bowler is thinking so speculation will always run wild on this thread!
On a side note I hate auto correct!!!!
OHLTG
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I'm not forgetting anything; Christo had 22 points in 47 games for us that season after two points in 21 games with NB.
Why did you mention Johnston and not Christo? That can go both ways, no?
Like I said before, over the last two seasons, Windsor's been able to acquire multiple players who were struggling with their previous team and figured out a way to get the most out of them. Yes, Johnston didn't do anything here; he fell down the depth charts and the rookies earned the playing time over him. Maybe that happens again with Struthers. Maybe an 05 or 06 gets going and makes him expendable. It's quite possible. However... what if he succeeds? What if he does what Maillet/Christo did? I get the idea of wanting to go "yeah, but...", however, there are two ways this could go, so why not look at both? Is it bad to think "hey, they did it with these players... maybe they can do it with him, too!"?
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Froggett, O'Dell, and Hjelholt have all signed with the Spitfires.
Cole Davis will be out indefinitely as he has had his appendix removed.
Looking forward to a full recovery and seeing him back in action.
Looking forward to a full recovery and seeing him back in action.
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If Struthers can give us what Jodoin could as you suggest and if the future considerations amount to less than what Jodoin’s return is it’s a good move.
With the signing of Froggett and O'Dell Spits have now signed 7 players from the 2022 draft,most they have signed since 2015 when they signed 8 including the likes of Dipietro and Villardi.
2 years later they won the Mem Cup.
Here is a look at the last 10 years including this and number of picks signed.
2023-3
2022-7
2021-6
2020-5
2019-3
2018-4
2017-4
2016-4
2015-8
2014-3
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