Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)

[punch1943]

Media can use words whatever way they like. Not always the full truth...

Certainly the media can use words as they like and it’s not always the full truth. Sounds familiar ….sort of like some of the posts on this board.

 

[Wolfman Jack]

With Windsor's draft cupboard pretty bare with 2nd and 3rd picks for next few seasons would be prudent they try to maximize a deal early for Alex Chistopolous. Wolves could use an explosive overage scorer on the right side. Maybe a deal can be worked out for his services. He's one player who would fit the Wolves forward crop.

Sudbury has the extra picks and depth in all areas with the exception of vet LD's. As well additional overage players.

Hoping our management keys in on Alex would be sweat to add him to this roster.

WJ

 

[ohloutsider]

With Windsor's draft cupboard pretty bare with 2nd and 3rd picks for next few seasons would be prudent they try to maximize a deal early for Alex Chistopolous. Wolves could use an explosive overage scorer on the right side. Maybe a deal can be worked out for his services. He's one player who would fit the Wolves forward crop.

Sudbury has the extra picks and depth in all areas with the exception of vet LD's. As well additional overage players.

Hoping our management keys in on Alex would be sweat to add him to this roster.

WJ

One of our overages has to move. Best to get maximum value rather than just release one. Any of Christopoulos, Peer or Maillett would bring that. Let the bidding begin.

 

[Cherrydon]

Casey Torres development programs that were specialized and offered was a body checking clinic. Gladly welcome some of that for the Spits

 

[Purple Phart]

Casey Torres development programs that were specialized and offered was a body checking clinic. Gladly welcome some of that for the Spits

With Dave Branch's pending retirement, the timing of this hire could prove to be beneficial. Branch's influence has tended to discourage the physical side of the game ( body checking included ) With a new commissioner coming in, maybe this aspect of the game will find a revival ???

 

[Cherrydon]

With Dave Branch's pending retirement, the timing of this hire could prove to be beneficial. Branch's influence has tended to discourage the physical side of the game ( body checking included ) With a new commissioner coming in, maybe this aspect of the game will find a revival ???

One can hope. Body checking is still a big part of the big show and the OHL is supposed to be a development league for the NHL. Those skills to dish one and take one are super valuable.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

With Dave Branch's pending retirement, the timing of this hire could prove to be beneficial. Branch's influence has tended to discourage the physical side of the game ( body checking included ) With a new commissioner coming in, maybe this aspect of the game will find a revival ???

I doubt it. A new commission wouldn't come in right away and rock the boat. Especially where we see the Q is going etc..

 

[Cherrydon]

I don't like the no fighting rule. There is a time and place especially when there is a disparity in size with rookies to overagers. Greenup and Wallace kept teams in check. What's wrong with that?

 

[rve24]

I don't like the no fighting rule. There is a time and place especially when there is a disparity in size with rookies to overagers. Greenup and Wallace kept teams in check. What's wrong with that?

They didn't or they never woulda had to fight. Greenup n Wallace did nothing to stop cheap shots lol.
This dress a tough guy, to stop transgressions by an opponent has never proven effective. But ya I guess if ya wanna see see a teen pound another teens face in.....that does nothing to police a game.....
Ya Bilke added so much protection he had to be asked to fight every other game lol. Obviously didn't deter anything but OK

Cheap shots were there in the 70s,80s,90s,2000s, 2010s all wirh tough guy players and it did nothing to stop the BS.

 

[OHLTG]

One of our overages has to move. Best to get maximum value rather than just release one. Any of Christopoulos, Peer or Maillett would bring that. Let the bidding begin.

This. They could keep any two and be just fine so it may come down to who offers the most value for someone. I hope that they'll have an answer before opening night, regardless.

As for Branch and the fight rule - you're never going back to how it was, whether that's the 10-limit or more. I'm almost expecting stricter rules as we move forward.

 

[Cherrydon]

Teens punching teens, when I played as a youth there was fighting even in the house league level. I'm not a Leafs fan but Ryan Reaves was signed for a reason and it is not his hockey ability. 100 % agree fighting does not stop the cheap shots but those cheap shot artists usually find themselves answering to someone when the refs 2 minute penalty doesn't go far enough for punishment for the cheap shot deed. Funny crowds at most levels cheer louder for a fight than a goal. That hasn't changed.

 

[OHLTG]

Funny crowds at most levels cheer louder for a fight than a goal. That hasn't changed.

"Look at the crowd, they're leaving in droves during this fight"... said nobody, ever.

 

[windsor7]

"Look at the crowd, they're leaving in droves during this fight"... said nobody, ever.

Possible be in line before just to get food..

 

[OHL 17]

I see, you drop your gloves in order to get a spot in line?

 

[Teflon]

Lol so the Spits didnt get physically destroyed by kitchener this past year??? Does that happen if there's a couple tough guys on the bench rve??? In case your unsure the answer is NO! All that talent without some protection is useless as was proven over oh wait a 4 game series.

 

[OHLTG]

Windsor was outscored 20-7 in four games after winning the Conference less than two weeks prior. As much as I appreciate toughness, that wasn't their downfall. Dionicio, Jodoin, and Smith can all go and are solid at it.

I will say that, since the fight rules have started, I've seen more and more players shrug off the tougher guys knowing nothing's going to happen. The "what are you gonna do about it?" as they laugh at them.

 

[Cherrydon]

Windsor was outscored 20-7 in four games after winning the Conference less than two weeks prior. As much as I appreciate toughness, that wasn't their downfall. Dionicio, Jodoin, and Smith can all go and are solid at it.

I will say that, since the fight rules have started, I've seen more and more players shrug off the tougher guys knowing nothing's going to happen. The "what are you gonna do about it?" as they laugh at them.

Absolutely after Joduin was at the suspension level to instigate, there were liberties directly taken he could not answer for fear of suspension. Don't get me wrong I don't want a 19, 20 yr old punching out a rookie. However, if the Rookie instigates it first, well then the lesson is coming. I've still not seen statiscally games missed for being injured while fighting compared to blind sides, boarding, head shots, slashing the wrists and hands. Correction found a 2015 stat where less than 9 % of NHL fights were responsible for concussions and that stat is realistically less because some of the players who fought were the ones who directly responded themselves from a deemed dirty check.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Lol so the Spits didnt get physically destroyed by kitchener this past year??? Does that happen if there's a couple tough guys on the bench rve??? In case your unsure the answer is NO! All that talent without some protection is useless as was proven over oh wait a 4 game series.

If they had lost in 6 or 7 I think it might have merit. They got swept and finding some more physical players doesn't change the series imo. If fighting and physical play is down in the league where will we find those type of players????

 

[OHLTG]

Just because they can't fight as much anymore doesn't mean those types of players don't exist. They just don't have as many opportunities.

Butler, Jackson Stewart, Quinton Burns, Cam Gauvreau, Cameron Morton, O'Flaherty, Alec Leonard... those guys were all known for their tougher side last season. The days of every team having 2-3 are long gone but there are still plenty of rough-and-tumble styles out there. Heck, as far as I know, Spits' sixth-round pick D Michael Lavigne is that type, too. Everything I've heard is he's a throwback who's tough and tough to play against. (being 6'5 200 helps)

 

[windsor7]

Windsor was outscored 20-7 in four games after winning the Conference less than two weeks prior. As much as I appreciate toughness, that wasn't their downfall. Dionicio, Jodoin, and Smith can all go and are solid at it.

I will say that, since the fight rules have started, I've seen more and more players shrug off the tougher guys knowing nothing's going to happen. The "what are you gonna do about it?" as they laugh at them.

Very little defense helped too..

 

[rve24]

Lol so the Spits didnt get physically destroyed by kitchener this past year??? Does that happen if there's a couple tough guys on the bench rve??? In case your unsure the answer is NO! All that talent without some protection is useless as was proven over oh wait a 4 game series.

You can claim to know but ya dont
The answer is you got no idea cause it didn't happen. I think with a couple guys that can n would fight Kitchener still steamrolls in that series, yup.
All Ktown had to do was turn the scrap down then go outwork, out muscle, outplay as they did quite handily as you pointed out.
You can push back, be aggressive, stand up, battle, match passion without a fight lol.
But since you know how it would worked out Tef. I guess we should all agree with you? Cmon now
I just don't get the obsession adults have with wanting to see kids fight. I love aggressive, hard nose play but kids fighting, nah not a big fan.

 

[OHLTG]

For me, its an understanding/appreciation for the reasons behind it. I've been around players involved in that area for years and years and I respect the reasons behind many (not all) fights. You just never want to see someone get hurt out of it.

 

[hockeylegend11]

One of our overages has to move. Best to get maximum value rather than just release one. Any of Christopoulos, Peer or Maillett would bring that. Let the bidding begin.

If my info is correct may have to wait a bit on one of 3 you mentioned Peer,Maillet or Christopoulos bei8ng moved as I heard that Christopoulos had wrist surgery after the season and will miss the start of the season.
In other news,nice to see from Brock Ottens top 30 OHL prospects for the 2024 NHL draft Windsor has 3 players in the top 22,in fact 2 in the top 6 Christoforo (5th) and Greentree (6th),only team with 2 in the top 10.
Though fair to mention Missauga has 3 in the top 12 and 4 overall(top24),Sudbury also has 3 in the top 30.
Interesting London has 1 and that's dman Sam Dickinson who is rated #1 overall by Otten.

 

[Teflon]

You can be tough, intimidating and be able to outmuscle and not necessarily fight. Just knowing your opponent can do that and fight!! Your going to shy away from the physical part of the game. Thats what happened in that series. Spits refused to go to the dirty areas, instigated very little physical stuff, being unable to dig out pucks and get to the net cost us goals, not being able to cleAr our zone and slot, cost us goals. That series was lost because windsor didnt have the ability to reply to kitcheners physical play imho. Its not just my opinion either. I dont go to games for scraps but its part of the game and theres a place for it. When u cant or wont respond to getting tossed around your not going to win many playoff series.

 

[hockeylegend11]

If my info is correct may have to wait a bit on one of 3 you mentioned Peer,Maillet or Christopoulos bei8ng moved as I heard that Christopoulos had wrist surgery after the season and will miss the start of the season.
In other news,nice to see from Brock Ottens top 30 OHL prospects for the 2024 NHL draft Windsor has 3 players in the top 22,in fact 2 in the top 6 Christoforo (5th) and Greentree (6th),only team with 2 in the top 10.
Though fair to mention Missauga has 3 in the top 12 and 4 overall(top24),Sudbury also has 3 in the top 30.
Interesting London has 1 and that's dman Sam Dickinson who is rated #1 overall by Otten.

Spits have signed import dman Josef Eichler to a contract.
He is a dman,likes the physical play is 6'-192 lbs,turns 18 in December.