Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)

[punch1943]

Between being under the microscope and having a seriously busy year, I'm not surprised he's struggling right now. Given he's 19, it's a matter of patience. He needs a summer to develop and figure out his game. Maybe he's in Seattle next season, maybe he's with Windsor. If he returns, I won't be upset. One of the nicest kids you'll meet.

I’m guessing Wright starts off with the big club for a few games but it wouldn’t surprise if he gets shipped back to the OHL. At that stage who he plays for will depend on where Seattle wants him playing. If he does come back it will help in a rebuilding year.

 

[AttackBeacher]

Ok everyone this is beating a dead horse! Its history! Your only as good as what your doing today. Can we please not rehash this crap all summer long, AGAIN! Lets talk about how this team looks in sept, how you fix the shortcomings, who looks like a big year is coming. Which players make the team…. No one is changing their opinions. Agree to disagree and move on, PLEASE!

Its been like that on this page for 10 years? No one (with the ability to do so) seems to have the appetite to really clean it up unfortunately, but until they do, it'll continue.

The thing with Wright, is we have never seen such a situation like it before.

There is no precedent to go off of.

All the other ES players in CHL history either made the NHL the season after getting drafted or played 25 games in their D+1 season where this situation has yet to arise.

The closest example would be Rico Fata, but I think that was before they revised the CHL/NHL agreement.

Rico Fata was not an exceptional player, he was under the old Hockey Canada rules where young players can play in their hometown earlier then 16. Jason Spezza was in Brampton and then the next year drafted to the Mississauga Steelheads. Fata played a season for his home town Greyhounds before being drafted by the London Knights.

 

[TheGremlin]

The thing with Wright, is we have never seen such a situation like it before.

There is no precedent to go off of.

All the other ES players in CHL history either made the NHL the season after getting drafted or played 25 games in their D+1 season where this situation has yet to arise.

The closest example would be Rico Fata, but I think that was before they revised the CHL/NHL agreement.

Sean Day was ES and just never really developed. I’m not even sure what he is doing now.

Wright just might not be motivated enough or he hasn’t mature enough yet.

 

[OHLTG]

The thing with Wright, is we have never seen such a situation like it before.

There is no precedent to go off of.

All the other ES players in CHL history either made the NHL the season after getting drafted or played 25 games in their D+1 season where this situation has yet to arise.

The closest example would be Rico Fata, but I think that was before they revised the CHL/NHL agreement.

I get that, too, which is why I said he needs the summer to develop and train before heading to Seattle. He has huge potential but still needs time to work on things before making the jump to the pros full-time.

Sean Day was ES and just never really developed. I’m not even sure what he is doing now.

He's in the AHL and has been for a few seasons.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Its been like that on this page for 10 years? No one (with the ability to do so) seems to have the appetite to really clean it up unfortunately, but until they do, it'll continue.



Rico Fata was not an exceptional player, he was under the old Hockey Canada rules where young players can play in their hometown earlier then 16. Jason Spezza was in Brampton and then the next year drafted to the Mississauga Steelheads. Fata played a season for his home town Greyhounds before being drafted by the London Knights.

I know…. That’s why I mentioned that he was the closed example…

 

[windsor7]

Sean Day was ES and just never really developed. I’m not even sure what he is doing now.

Wright just might not be motivated enough or he hasn’t mature enough yet.

Wouldn't have any motivation coming back to Windsor in a half a rebuild year...

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Wright is too good for the OHL but also probably not good enough for Seattle and 82 games. Another year in the OHL would be detrimental to his development.

 

[OHLTG]

That's another thing that'll be worth watching this summer. As the rule stands, he's NHL/OHL only, but that's only because of a single game. Do they make an exception? How does that play out?

 

[Petes1987]

That's another thing that'll be worth watching this summer. As the rule stands, he's NHL/OHL only, but that's only because of a single game. Do they make an exception? How does that play out?

I thought the rule was if a player played four seasons prior to their 19th year season they were eligible to play in the AHL. Shane Wright has played two and half seasons in the OHL. He is no where close to four years played. I don’t understand how he is ineligible by just one game as he has played just played 141 OHL games which is just over two seasons worth of games. If he is eligible to play in the AHL would not any player who plays 142 games in the OHL?

 

[OHLTG]

I thought the rule was if a player played four seasons prior to their 19th year season they were eligible to play in the AHL. Shane Wright has played two and half seasons in the OHL. He is no where close to four years played. I don’t understand how he is ineligible by just one game as he has played just played 141 OHL games which is just over two seasons worth of games. If he is eligible to play in the AHL would not any player who plays 142 games in the OHL?

From earlier discussion, it appears they're counting 2020-21 as a full season for everyone, in terms of eligibility. That would have made this season his fourth and, therefore, he needed 25 games with the Spitfires to hit that mark. With him getting in 24 (due to the early playoff exit), the question is now - does he become AHL eligible or will it be NHL/OHL?

 

[ohloutsider]

From earlier discussion, it appears they're counting 2020-21 as a full season for everyone, in terms of eligibility. That would have made this season his fourth and, therefore, he needed 25 games with the Spitfires to hit that mark. With him getting in 24 (due to the early playoff exit), the question is now - does he become AHL eligible or will it be NHL/OHL?

It does no one any good to send him back to the OHL. They will use Covid for an excuse ( like every business does) and make an exception for him.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

It does no one any good to send him back to the OHL. They will use Covid for an excuse ( like every business does) and make an exception for him.

They don't even need to use covid as an excuse. He was kept in the NHL/AHL up to the WJs where he played 8 games in each league. 16 games total there should trump failing to miss a dumb threshold of 25 games in the CHL.

 

[OHLTG]

Do I expect him back in Windsor? No. Is there a small chance that might be worth keeping an eye on? Yes.

 

[windsor7]

Do I expect him back in Windsor? No. Is there a small chance that might be worth keeping an eye on? Yes.

Which side is the grass greener on?..

 

[Cherrydon]

Not expecting Wright back but if that is the case, we shoot from rebuild to contender with the strong Rookie class, returning overagers to choose from and especially Costanzo.

 

[OHLTG]

Which side is the grass greener on?..

I'm honestly confused by this. Are you asking which is better for him, which is better for the team, or what exactly?

 

[TheGremlin]

Not expecting Wright back but if that is the case, we shoot from rebuild to contender with the strong Rookie class, returning overagers to choose from and especially Costanzo.

No matter what happens this team has to be in rebuild. The team has no assets to trade to become a serious contender. I’d be happy with an off year to gather the picks back if it means we are back on top in a year or 2.

 

[Teflon]

This is setting up as a few years of mediocrity. Team will be pretty good this coming year that i believe. Now does he sell to acquire assets or does he run with whats here and make some small moves. This is where he must prove himself.

 

[punch1943]

This is setting up as a few years of mediocrity. Team will be pretty good this coming year that i believe. Now does he sell to acquire assets or does he run with whats here and make some small moves. This is where he must prove himself.

I think a lot depends on #1 if the ownership changes. #2 attendance

 

[OHLTG]

I don't think attendance will play a factor. Crowds will come and go as they see fit. My gut tells me Bowler will look and see what he has come training camp, then make a decision based on how the season goes. Last season, it was split between rebuild and reload. This season is a bit more towards rebuild, as they desperately need picks, but that doesn't mean he's going to tear it all down, either.

 

[Cherrydon]

If Wright happens to return and the season is going South by deadline, the selling price would be steep. Of course there is possibly a hitch from the trade last year with Kingston if he happened to be returned this upcoming season.

 

[EvenSteven]

It’s telling that Wright didn’t get the call to the Kraken in the post season. Tye Kartye got the call ahead of him and had a great post season stint.

 

[windsor7]

I think a lot depends on #1 if the ownership changes. #2 attendance

Ownership and coaching need a completely different thought process.
#boys club should stop also.

I don't think attendance will play a factor. Crowds will come and go as they see fit. My gut tells me Bowler will look and see what he has come training camp, then make a decision based on how the season goes. Last season, it was split between rebuild and reload. This season is a bit more towards rebuild, as they desperately need picks, but that doesn't mean he's going to tear it all down, either.

Bowler only has to look in the mirror as to why they r short on picks. Nobody else to blame..

 

[OHLTG]

Bowler only has to look in the mirror as to why they r short on picks. Nobody else to blame..

Where did I blame anyone?!

 

[windsor7]

Where did I blame anyone?!

Didn't need to.
Obvious...