Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)

[hockeylegend11]

He doesn’t know how.

do the last 2 years really matter when championships are supposedly all that matter. Neither team won.
I’d much rather blow a 3-2 series lead then lose 4 straight to an 8th seed tho. That was just

I am the opposite up 3-2 with home ice advantage is worse to me,in the end not a good look whether u are swept or cough up a lead with home ice advantage.

embarrassing.

You just can't resist.

No and I never will,if a poster wants to go on another site and rub things in I will respond every time,too bad nobody criticizes the instigator instead of the responder (defender)

 

[nelli27]

I am the opposite up 3-2 with home ice advantage is worse to me,in the end not a good look whether u are swept or cough up a lead with home ice advantage.



No and I never will,if a poster wants to go on another site and rub things in I will respond every time,too bad nobody criticizes the instigator instead of the responder (defender)

Lol!

 

[ohloutsider]

I am the opposite up 3-2 with home ice advantage is worse to me,in the end not a good look whether u are swept or cough up a lead with home ice advantage.



No and I never will,if a poster wants to go on another site and rub things in I will respond every time,too bad nobody criticizes the instigator instead of the responder (defender)

Well you are not the defender. You just look silly. Spits lost in the worst possible scenario which is the first time in 75 year history of the OHL and somehow your trying to hang your hat on that as been better that losing in 7 games in round 2?
Embrace the history for what it is . London has the worst regular season record ever and fans on their thread embrace it. I've said it before, just own it. It will be a long time, if ever that a team can take that record away from the Spits. Move on and get ready for next year. As long as you keep responding they will keep trolling.

 

[OHLTG]

Bait is only successful when it's responded to. While instigating is annoying, allowing the stuff to grow into anything doesn't help, either.

The playoffs are done. Let's focus on the stuff that actually matters now - the prospects signing, the CHL Import, whether or not Savard returns, and 2023-24 (and anything else that might happen).

 

[rve24]

You mean London the chokers of the 21/22 playoffs,leading 3-2 going to game 6 with home ice advantage vs Kitchener ,18 point difference in standings between Kitchener and London,with London the 2nd seed vs Kitchener the 7th seed,and you are eliminated and embarrassed.
Fast forward to this year's playoffs the 5th seed overall in the standings London and the 10th seed Peterborough, with London again an 18 point advantage points wise over Peterborough during 68 season game,think 18 point difference isn't to your advantage lol,you go in with home ice advantage, win game 1 then lose 4 of the next 5 games and home you go.
At least when Windsor played Hamilton it was Hamilton #1-107 pts ,12-0 going in the finals, Windsor playing 6 more games going to finals and losing in 7.
And Windsor did finish with 12 less points in the standings finishing 2nd in the season standings.
Perhaps staying in your lane would be best to avoid further embarrassment

Ya forgot to mention "factors" you so often bring up to defend the Spits after every L and 3/4 of Ws.

 

[hockeylegend11]

Well you are not the defender. You just look silly. Spits lost in the worst possible scenario which is the first time in 75 year history of the OHL and somehow your trying to hang your hat on that as been better that losing in 7 games in round 2?
Embrace the history for what it is . London has the worst regular season record ever and fans on their thread embrace it. I've said it before, just own it. It will be a long time, if ever that a team can take that record away from the Spits. Move on and get ready for next year. As long as you keep responding they will keep trolling

My thinking is already towards next year,but I refuse to allow trollers from the outside troll this site.
Like I said responders shouldn't be silenced and instigators get off scott free,too bad u wont criticize them.
As for getting swept doesn't matter to me in the end no win was accomplished whether its 4 straight or takes 7.
Was I happy no , dwelling on it no

 

[rve24]

I am the opposite up 3-2 with home ice advantage is worse to me,in the end not a good look whether u are swept or cough up a lead with home ice advantage.



No and I never will,if a poster wants to go on another site and rub things in I will respond every time,too bad nobody criticizes the instigator instead of the responder (defender)

Of course you are the opposite lol. That's why people mention goalpost moving so often in reference to your posts. No consistency. No baseline. No cred. Keep digging.
It's entertaining the lack of a standard you apply in reference to success and non success of OHL teams.

 

[OHLTG]

My thinking is already towards next year,but I refuse to allow trollers from the outside troll this site.

If you have posters who come in and stir... and NOBODY responds to them... they accomplish nothing at all. We carry on with the normal Spitfires' talk and life doesn't change one bit. It's no different than when someone chirps on the ice. If you chirp back, you're at risk of getting a penalty. Nah, chuckle, skate away, and life will sort itself out.

 

[windsor7]

My thinking is already towards next year,but I refuse to allow trollers from the outside troll this site.
Like I said responders shouldn't be silenced and instigators get off scott free,too bad u wont criticize them.
As for getting swept doesn't matter to me in the end no win was accomplished whether its 4 straight or takes 7.
Was I happy no , dwelling on it no

Getting swept was embarrassing.
Even with the "factors".

If you have posters who come in and stir... and NOBODY responds to them... they accomplish nothing at all. We carry on with the normal Spitfires' talk and life doesn't change one bit. It's no different than when someone chirps on the ice. If you chirp back, you're at risk of getting a penalty. Nah, chuckle, skate away, and life will sort itself out.

Unless u want the teammates to "stand" up for each other as was mentioned many many times . Funny how thinking changes...

 

[Slowpace]

You mean London the chokers of the 21/22 playoffs,leading 3-2 going to game 6 with home ice advantage vs Kitchener ,18 point difference in standings between Kitchener and London,with London the 2nd seed vs Kitchener the 7th seed,and you are eliminated and embarrassed.
Fast forward to this year's playoffs the 5th seed overall in the standings London and the 10th seed Peterborough, with London again an 18 point advantage points wise over Peterborough during 68 season game,think 18 point difference isn't to your advantage lol,you go in with home ice advantage, win game 1 then lose 4 of the next 5 games and home you go.
At least when Windsor played Hamilton it was Hamilton #1-107 pts ,12-0 going in the finals, Windsor playing 6 more games going to finals and losing in 7.
And Windsor did finish with 12 less points in the standings finishing 2nd in the season standings.
Perhaps staying in your lane would be best to avoid further embarrassment

Guess you forgot to mention the London "factors"??? Guess they only matter when Spits lose? No worries, Knights need no excuses, they still far surpassed everyone's expectations.
Embarrassment? Even the other Windsor posters are embarrassed for you.

 

[OHLTG]

Unless u want the teammates to "stand" up for each other as was mentioned many many times . Funny how thinking changes...

There's a significant difference between standing up for a teammate who's in trouble/hurt and pulling a teammate out of a situation where someone is trying to get goad them into a penalty.

 

[windsor7]

There's a significant difference between standing up for a teammate who's in trouble/hurt and pulling a teammate out of a situation where someone is trying to get goad them into a penalty.

Must be one if those "factors" or goal posts..

 

[rve24]

My thinking is already towards next year,but I refuse to allow trollers from the outside troll this site.
Like I said responders shouldn't be silenced and instigators get off scott free,too bad u wont criticize them.
As for getting swept doesn't matter to me in the end no win was accomplished whether its 4 straight or takes 7.
Was I happy no , dwelling on it no

Your missing Everyone's point over a period of years. Take a breath n see that's it's Spits fans and opponents fans you've attacked that are calling you out, not just "trolls"
Respond for sure, it's appreciated. I hope ya know that part that discourse is appreciated. It's what forums like this are based on for most people.
Changing criteria and not applying a standard across the board is what people call ya out on. And it's more often you are called out than any1 on HF OHL aite.....coincidence? Probly not. They troll you not the Spits cause they know you apply no consistency in you're hyper defense of the Spits. 98% are more more humble on here and see 2 sides of the equation. Not you.
It's ok to occasionally just say the other team was better without silly qualifiers to defend your cherished team that you have so often used to dismiss other 19 teams success. It's hypocritical and if you wanna attack posters who are fans of the Spits, another team or hockey in general in the way you do people will poke ya back.
It's great you are a passionate fan. Funny the trolls you call out (weak defense by the way when ya got no leg to stand on so resort to moving goalposts) had no issues with Sarnia, OS, Peterborough, Kitchener, Saginaw, Flint, Guelph, NB, Ottawa fans.....or 95% of Spits fans.
Look at Teflon......admittedly a huge dislike for Green n Gold n no one gets on his case cause it's not hypocritical. It's respected cause it's not a Bagdad Bob approach.
Hope you have a great summer.
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[RayzorIsDull]

I'll take the overachievers vs the underachievers (aka chokers)any day of the week.
2023 WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS!!!

I think we need nuance. Yes Windsor underachieved. I can't say they choked because they never really had anything to choke away


If you want to say London overachieved that's your prerogative. They were a 2 seed that beat a 7th seed, 8th seed and 3 seed. They went on to lose to a 4 seed. I haven't seen a team win a title with as few of points of Peterborough. You can be happy with the season but I don't see a 2 seed making the OHL finals overachieving when you had home ice every round.

 

[Teflon]

Thanks rve. Lol there is one of those green guys that got me but he did get personal! Ive said it often, i care about mem cup berths and wins. I care about producing quality hockey players/men. I truly loved the old style of hockey! The passion was outstanding, i think its missing in todays game. The rivalry’s were incredibly entertaining, being a part of those was a highlight of mine. The politics of hockey is ruining the sport, concerns me a great deal. Losing the personal passion has left a void in this sport that keeps it 4th in line in North American sports.
For sure tho lets turn the page. Lots of concerns here in windsor. I listed those earlier. I do believe the spits compete but only with the right moves. Again im not convinced we have the right GM but its his ship to sink or sail. Yes im a pretty informed guy. Played and coached at high levels. Doesnt always translate to todays game but ill arm chair it all day long. Junior hockey is one of the purest sports you’ll find! Lets hope it doesn’t continue to go down the road Branch seems to be intent to head for.

 

[TheGremlin]

I am the opposite up 3-2 with home ice advantage is worse to me,in the end not a good look whether u are swept or cough up a lead with home ice advantage

So actually winning 3 games in a series is worse then winning none? That’s interesting.
I guess when Windsor blew a 3-1 series lead in 2017 that’s ok because windsor didn’t have home ice.
My point is pretty much all teams blow leads in the playoffs. But not one team can say they got swept by and 8th seed. I’m all for different opinions but i just can not find anyone else that thinks the way you do on this topic.

 

[rve24]

So actually winning 3 games in a series is worse then winning none? That’s interesting.
I guess when Windsor blew a 3-1 series lead in 2017 that’s ok because windsor didn’t have home ice.
My point is pretty much all teams blow leads in the playoffs. But not one team can say they got swept by and 8th seed. I’m all for different opinions but i just can not find anyone else that thinks the way you do on this topic.

No no no you got it all wrong........it was 1 penalty call in a 3rd period that "hockey people" ..... aka people sitting in the freebie suite with HL...... said was a bad call that was the factor that cost them the series lol. Not the 178 other minutes they wasted away up 3-1. I read it 100 times on here lol.
But it's ok cause they got a freebie to the National Cup after a 1st rd loss......(something he trashed London for just a few years previous for losing in the 2nd rd n hosting and did so pre tourney so results can't be leaned on in justifying it. He said in both cases.....LK doesnt deserve to be there as a back door host after 2 rds n a loss to the OHL champs.... but Windsor deserved it after a 1st rd loss to a team that didnt win even a conf title, .....said both pre tourney results so thats hypocritical n goalpost shifting to say the least....Injuries neither as he used to explain the Spits losses n poor reg season that year along with single 2 min penalty lol. London had 2 of its top 3 D out but no one whined)
N London lost to the league champs that year in rd 2. Spits lost in rd 1 up 3-1 to no OHL champ or even Western conf champ.
He shoulda stood and applied the same to Windsor or just kept quiet but instead he didnt post for over a momth until they won a game at the Cup then the goalposts shifted 180 and gloated about the huge success and deserved host gig. Interesting....

 

[hockeylegend11]

So actually winning 3 games in a series is worse then winning none? That’s interesting.
I guess when Windsor blew a 3-1 series lead in 2017 that’s ok because windsor didn’t have home ice.
My point is pretty much all teams blow leads in the playoffs. But not one team can say they got swept by and 8th seed. I’m all for different opinions but i just can not find anyone else that thinks the way you do on this topic.

Not much difference 7th or 8th place team beating 1st or 2nd place team,especially when point differences are 18 points or 22 points sweep or no sweep imo,London has now lost back to back years in the playoffs to teams that they had a 18 point difference in the standings regular season to their advantage, Kitchener last year, Peterborough this year and they had home ice advantage both years.
Windsor loses to Hamilton in 7 not 6 like London this year,12 point difference in OA standings Hamilton #1,Windsor #2 in standings, not 5th London and 10th Peterborough .
In the last 2 years since Covid,Windsor has won 3 rounds in the playoffs,1 Conference championship, London the same,both are tied for best playoff records in the Western Conference and championships, regular season over 136 games last 2 seasons both have won division titles but only Windsor has won 2 conference regular season titles London none.
Windsor last 2 seasons have the 2nd best regular season record for the entire league 136 GP-88-35--8-5- 189 points
They have also scored the most goals of any team in the league the last 2 regular seasons-620 goals
Record wise North Bay is #1 for wins and points the last 2 seasons -136GP- 91-35-5-5-192 points
They have scored the 3rd most goals 552
Flint has scored 577 goals for 2nd place regular season last 2 years,while London is 4th with 533 goals and Sarnia is 5th with 532.
Should mention North Bay has won 4 playoff rounds last 2 years but no championships conference or league
Hamilton has the 3rd best regular season record the last years with 178 points,plus 4 playoff round wins all last year,1 conference title and 1 league title.
London has the 4th best regular record with 177 points last 2 seasons,while Ottawa has the 5th best regular record with 172 points,but only 1 playoff round win.
Finally Peterborough has the same playoff round wins 4,1 conference title,1 league championship tied with Hamilton the last years yet are 12th overall regular season wise record last 2 years-144 points.
Despite the playoff disappointment this year for Windsor the last 2 seasons regular and playoffs have brought me more joy then despair overall by a large margin and like everyone else we are all entitled to a viewpoint like it or not.

 

[rve24]

Not much difference 7th or 8th place team beating 1st or 2nd place team,especially when point differences are 18 points or 22 points sweep or no sweep imo,London has now lost back to back years in the playoffs to teams that they had a 18 point difference in the standings regular season to their advantage, Kitchener last year, Peterborough this year and they had home ice advantage both years.
Windsor loses to Hamilton in 7 not 6 like London this year,12 point difference in OA standings Hamilton #1,Windsor #2 in standings, not 5th London and 10th Peterborough .
In the last 2 years since Covid,Windsor has won 3 rounds in the playoffs,1 Conference championship, London the same,both are tied for best playoff records in the Western Conference and championships, regular season over 136 games last 2 seasons both have won division titles but only Windsor has won 2 conference regular season titles London none.
Windsor last 2 seasons have the 2nd best regular season record for the entire league 136 GP-88-35--8-5- 189 points
They have also scored the most goals of any team in the league the last 2 regular seasons-620 goals
Record wise North Bay is #1 for wins and points the last 2 seasons -136GP- 91-35-5-5-192 points
They have scored the 3rd most goals 552
Flint has scored 577 goals for 2nd place regular season last 2 years,while London is 4th with 533 goals and Sarnia is 5th with 532.
Should mention North Bay has won 4 playoff rounds last 2 years but no championships conference or league
Hamilton has the 3rd best regular season record the last years with 178 points,plus 4 playoff round wins all last year,1 conference title and 1 league title.
London has the 4th best regular record with 177 points last 2 seasons,while Ottawa has the 5th best regular record with 172 points,but only 1 playoff round win.
Finally Peterborough has the same playoff round wins 4,1 conference title,1 league championship tied with Hamilton the last years yet are 12th overall regular season wise record last 2 years-144 points.
Despite the playoff disappointment this year for Windsor the last 2 seasons regular and playoffs have brought me more joy then despair overall by a large margin and like everyone else we are all entitled to a viewpoint like it or not.

Keep.on reaching n moving goalposts. It's so entertaining. Yes you are are entitled to your ever changing opinions. I agree. And so are others entitled to their opinions about your ever changing criteria for success.
Whatever ya need to change on yearly basis to make you feel good about your team. Butterflies n rainbows. ( but all those accolades u just used to support your club you have used in the past 5 years to down play other teams seasons lol).
Now it's a 2 yr window and Championships don't matter seemingly, but before it was a 12 year window for Memorial Cups, then POs didn't matter for a decade, but now they kinda do, sorta, depending, and regular seasons didn't matter but now for 2 years they do......I wonder if you will apply the same 2 year window, reg season success criteria next year?
I'm sure after next year the standard will change yet once again.
Love is blind some say.

 

[Purple Phart]

A backdoor host Memorial Cup win is pretty much like a trip to a brothel. Sure, you get a measure of satisfaction, but the fact is you had to buy and pay for it. Just my opinion. LOL.

 

[rve24]

Not much difference 7th or 8th place team beating 1st or 2nd place team,especially when point differences are 18 points or 22 points sweep or no sweep imo,London has now lost back to back years in the playoffs to teams that they had a 18 point difference in the standings regular season to their advantage, Kitchener last year, Peterborough this year and they had home ice advantage both years.
Windsor loses to Hamilton in 7 not 6 like London this year,12 point difference in OA standings Hamilton #1,Windsor #2 in standings, not 5th London and 10th Peterborough .
In the last 2 years since Covid,Windsor has won 3 rounds in the playoffs,1 Conference championship, London the same,both are tied for best playoff records in the Western Conference and championships, regular season over 136 games last 2 seasons both have won division titles but only Windsor has won 2 conference regular season titles London none.
Windsor last 2 seasons have the 2nd best regular season record for the entire league 136 GP-88-35--8-5- 189 points
They have also scored the most goals of any team in the league the last 2 regular seasons-620 goals
Record wise North Bay is #1 for wins and points the last 2 seasons -136GP- 91-35-5-5-192 points
They have scored the 3rd most goals 552
Flint has scored 577 goals for 2nd place regular season last 2 years,while London is 4th with 533 goals and Sarnia is 5th with 532.
Should mention North Bay has won 4 playoff rounds last 2 years but no championships conference or league
Hamilton has the 3rd best regular season record the last years with 178 points,plus 4 playoff round wins all last year,1 conference title and 1 league title.
London has the 4th best regular record with 177 points last 2 seasons,while Ottawa has the 5th best regular record with 172 points,but only 1 playoff round win.
Finally Peterborough has the same playoff round wins 4,1 conference title,1 league championship tied with Hamilton the last years yet are 12th overall regular season wise record last 2 years-144 points.
Despite the playoff disappointment this year for Windsor the last 2 seasons regular and playoffs have brought me more joy then despair overall by a large margin and like everyone else we are all entitled to a viewpoint like it or not.

So in summary Windsor finished ahead of LK in the regular season 2 years in a row ( by small margins and I'll leave out the factors u would include lol. Congrats. ( and I gave WS genuine kudos and props on their run last year on here. I'm.a hockey fan, not a team of teens hater).
LK won same PO rds, they both made a OHL final in your timeline and you diminish the achievement the Petes just accomplished beating Ott, NB and the OHL Cup.with players out injured to help you try n prop up a Spits loss to Hamilton as a better feat than LK lol. Cause of a reg season record and 7 games instead of 6 lol? Wow they are in your head.

So using your logic 5th seed, 1st rd exit should diminish a Memorial Cup achievement lol? Good work. I knew you would come around eventually on that one.

Context matters. Like the fact that altou Sarnia was a 3rd seed most had them as favs in the West as they had the best post trade deadline record. Last year Windsor also beat a 8th/7th/3rd seed to get to the finals.........but were the fav to win each series. Not so this year. Context matters more than selective rotating stats and useless #s.
Both teams made a finals and lost to a better team. It's ok to admit it. No need to try n make yourself think one was better than the other.

Glad your back posting after the few weeks off holding your breath.

 

[rve24]

Good to see players utilize their educational packages and continue to play competitively.
He has had some big moments during his hockey life, hopefully 1 or 2 more left.

 

[TheGremlin]

Keep.on reaching n moving goalposts. It's so entertaining. Yes you are are entitled to your ever changing opinions. I agree. And so are others entitled to their opinions about your ever changing criteria for success.
Whatever ya need to change on yearly basis to make you feel good about your team. Butterflies n rainbows. ( but all those accolades u just used to support your club you have used in the past 5 years to down play other teams seasons lol).
Now it's a 2 yr window and Championships don't matter seemingly, but before it was a 12 year window for Memorial Cups, then POs didn't matter for a decade, but now they kinda do, sorta, depending, and regular seasons didn't matter but now for 2 years they do......I wonder if you will apply the same 2 year window, reg season success criteria next year?
I'm sure after next year the standard will change yet once again.
Love is blind some say.

I love how it all about the points during regular season now. He never tells us about how average Windsor’s D has been which to me is possibly why Windsor failed this year. But you are right. He is excited about leading the conference for 2 years but if it was london that had done this it wouldn’t matter cause they never won the league. But if London won the league title it wouldn’t mean a thing cause we all know it Memorial Cup or it means nothing as Memorial Cup all that matters. He throws out all these numbers that favour Windsor like they mean something. Id rather windsor score 100 less goals if it meant they won the league. I’d rather be a 4 seed and win a title then a 1st and have nothing. Sometimes i get dizzy with all the circles i’m going in trying to figure out what his points are. Last year was a great year for Windsor no doubt. This year was just embarrassing. As simple as that. He will never mention Windsor blowing a 3-1 lead in 17 cause they won a cup.

 

[tomschman]

A backdoor host Memorial Cup win is pretty much like a trip to a brothel. Sure, you get a measure of satisfaction, but the fact is you had to buy and pay for it. Just my opinion. LOL.

Better than paying for it and not able to perform as in 2014. Just my opinion. LOL

 

[Purple Phart]

Better than paying for it and not able to perform as in 2014. Just my opinion. LOL

Good to see that this sort of transactional achievement isn't celebrated in London. That's what differentiates it from those 2 back-to-back Memorial Cup banners Windsor displays. Those were EARNED, and I'll be the first to acknowledge those as a genuine, and DESERVED !
Again, just my opinion.