Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 8)

[GermanSpitfire]

Which cutoff was that? I was under the impression that he was almost guaranteed to be pro-bound?!

That said... I'm reading on Twitter that conversations need to be held regarding his AHL eligibility. He may still stick in the NHL but I'm intrigued by a remote OHL option.

“Under the current format, CHL players who are 18 or 19 years old, if drafted by their NHL team, must be returned to their junior team who has their rights. Players who are loaned to a Canadian junior team are an exception to this rule. Players who have played four junior seasons (min. 25 games per season) are exempt as well, though they’re quite rare“


The Covid year counts as a year of eligibity taken away for Wright, as It did for everyone that year - but last year didn’t. So the Wright saga might not be over funnily enough. there is still a possibility he returns.

 

[OHLTG]

“Under the current format, CHL players who are 18 or 19 years old, if drafted by their NHL team, must be returned to their junior team who has their rights. Players who are loaned to a Canadian junior team are an exception to this rule. Players who have played four junior seasons (min. 25 games per season) are exempt as well, though they’re quite rare“


The Covid year counts as a year of eligibity taken away for Wright, as It did for everyone that year - but last year didn’t. So the Wright saga might not be over funnily enough. there is still a possibility he returns.

That's really good to know because, all along, I had been under the impression that he was absolutely gone. A pure rental, if you will, and nobody (in convos around the rink) had even hinted at anything else.

Now, this begs the question - there was chit-chat that Seattle was playing a role in him being scratched towards the end of his injury. A "better safe than sorry" approach. Would this 25-game minimum have played a part in that... or just a coincidence?

 

[GermanSpitfire]

That's really good to know because, all along, I had been under the impression that he was absolutely gone. A pure rental, if you will, and nobody (in convos around the rink) had even hinted at anything else.

Now, this begs the question - there was chit-chat that Seattle was playing a role in him being scratched towards the end of his injury. A "better safe than sorry" approach. Would this 25-game minimum have played a part in that... or just a coincidence?

I think that they expected Windsor, as the 1 seed to at least play 6 games in the playoffs - that’s all they needed to have him play AHL hockey next season. Any sane person at the time would have thought that.

They may have been caught witg their pants down, and could have screwed over their plans with him for next season.

Mind you, this is not confirmed in the slightest, just speculation. But it’s not the 100% chance he’s gone that we thought before.

 

[Purple Phart]

This is starting to sound like a legal argument from the lowest paid attorney defending Donald Trump. It's the slimmest possible straw to grasp at, but faint hope is better than none.

 

[OHLTG]

It makes perfect sense; I just had no idea that the games min. existed. It brings a new element to the off-season which I'm intrigued by.

 

[windsor7]

I think that they expected Windsor, as the 1 seed to at least play 6 games in the playoffs - that’s all they needed to have him play AHL hockey next season. Any sane person at the time would have thought that.

They may have been caught witg their pants down, and could have screwed over their plans with him for next season.

Mind you, this is not confirmed in the slightest, just speculation. But it’s not the 100% chance he’s gone that we thought before.

Would he have any motivation at all in returning...

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Would he have any motivation at all in returning...

He didn’t this year. Who Knows what’d go down next year…

 

[TheGremlin]

Wright hasnt really shown motivation to be playing in the AHL playoffs. He has only 4 points in his 11 games. Granted that doesn’t mean much but i don’t think you like seeing your 4th overall pick being scratched from a playoff game.

 

[Petes1987]

I would be floored if this happened.

I doubt Shane Wright would back in the OHL. He is eligible to play in the AHL because he played as a 15 year old. The basis of this rule is if a player has played four years in the OHL prior to his 19th year he is eligible to play as a 19 yr old in the AHL. There is a chance that the OHL could rule he only played three years with the lost Covid year and would only be allowed to play in the NHL or OHL. I doubt they will do that because they caved last season and allowed anyone who had played in the AHL in the lost Covid year to play in the AHL last year.

Wright hasnt really shown motivation to be playing in the AHL playoffs. He has only 4 points in his 11 games. Granted that doesn’t mean much but i don’t think you like seeing your 4th overall pick being scratched from a playoff game.

I am starting to wonder if Shane Wright is going to become another Alexander Daigle. Daigle was drafted 1st overall and was never the player they expected him to be. Wright looked great for most of his rookie season. I compare his development to Mason McTavish. Early in the season his level of play was below that of Mason McTavish but by the late fall into 2020 he was way better than McTavish. Last year Mason McTavish was an elite player while Shane Wright was just a good offensive player. The Covid year really hurt Wright and he has never recovered from it.

 

[bobber]

This is starting to sound like a legal argument from the lowest paid attorney defending Donald Trump. It's the slimmest possible straw to grasp at, but faint hope is better than none.

Are we talking Wright here or the Leafs winning the cup? Kidding of course. Doubt Wright comes back. Rangers lost Sebrango in a similar situation. He has worked his way down this season to the Toledo Walleyes. Fav team of the fishing fraternity.

 

[punch1943]

So my buds have let DUBAS go and you can bet Keefe is out the door as well. Presser at 3pm. Supposedly Shanahan will be available. Just my humble opinion but I expect Shanahan to leave as well.

 

[windsor7]

So my buds have let DUBAS go and you can bet Keefe is out the door as well. Presser at 3pm. Supposedly Shanahan will be available. Just my humble opinion but I expect Shanahan to leave as well. Who would I expect/want as replacements …BOWMAN GM…Quenneville ..coach…Spetza asst GM .

Go crazy n go get Roy.
Things would be different for sure.

 

[OHLTG]

I like what Dubas brought to the table. He made some mistakes but he also navigated through some ugly waters. Hopefully he's able to get some rest with his family (seemed to be a primary reason for this decision).

 

[windsor7]

I like what Dubas brought to the table. He made some mistakes but he also navigated through some ugly waters. Hopefully he's able to get some rest with his family (seemed to be a primary reason for this decision).

Didn't get the job done in his time there.

 

[Teflon]

Primary reason was utter failure. Yes imho its that bad. I see a total house cleaning coming.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Primary reason was utter failure. Yes imho its that bad. I see a total house cleaning coming.

At the end of the day a championship is the goal but the organization is in a much better situation for when arrived. That doesn't mean he sees it through but there are going to be 31 other teams that will fail.

 

[Teflon]

Sure with steady improvement. That team is fundamentally built wrong. No post season improvement to speak of. Sitting on the high end of the salary cap with not much to show for it. For me, that gets you and your staff fired and a player shake up ensues.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Sure with steady improvement. That team is fundamentally built wrong. No post season improvement to speak of. Sitting on the high end of the salary cap with not much to show for it. For me, that gets you and your staff fired and a player shake up ensues.

There are a lot of teams at the high end of the salary cap with very little to show eg Winnipeg Montreal Ottawa NYR Pittsburgh the list goes on and on.

 

[Cherrydon]

The Leafs have 3 players in the top 10 highest paid players this year. 2 too many for 1 team. None of the 3 should be over 8-9 million based on their performance, especially playoffs. Balance wins. Seattle all average players did well with no stars for a second year team.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

The Leafs have 3 players in the top 10 highest paid players this year. 2 too many for 1 team. None of the 3 should be over 8-9 million based on their performance, especially playoffs. Balance wins. Seattle all average players did well with no stars for a second year team.

Florida has 2 guys who make 10 mil a year so yes you can win with that.

 

[Cherrydon]

They have 1 at 10 million even and Thachuk at 9.5. That is 1 and he is a goalie who's red hot. The buds have 3 over 10.9 million. Doesn't leave alot of room for medium quality sigings. The buds would trade Matthew's for Thachuk straight up in a heartbeat and save 2 mil in salary a year.

 

[EvenSteven]

I like what Dubas brought to the table. He made some mistakes but he also navigated through some ugly waters. Hopefully he's able to get some rest with his family (seemed to be a primary reason for this decision).

The ugly waters he was forced to navigate through he created himself. He over paid Matthews, Marner, and Nylander and put himself in a deep hole cap wise.

 

[EvenSteven]

Rangers lost Sebrango in a similar situation. He has worked his way down this season to the Toledo Walleyes. Fav team of the fishing fraternity.

Rangers lost Sebrango due to a special exemption that Branch put in place. If you played 20 or more AHL games, you didn’t have to return to the OHL.

This Wright situation is different. The only thing that may save him is that the reason he didn’t play 25 games in the OHL is because he was in the pros. Is there an exemption that covers this? Not sure. But I doubt they change current rules to cater to Shane Wright.

But you never know.

Regarding Sebrango:
No doubt he could have used another year at this level. I wonder how the other players who fell under this exemption have fared since.

 

[Purple Phart]

Anyone care to speculate on how the Maple Leafs shake-up will affect Wellwood's situation ? With the Marlies staff also apparently part of the Dubas purge, it might mean an upward opportunity for him ECHL >>> AHL.....or will he be viewed as part of the coaching staff to be dismissed ??? How far down the chain will this housecleaning go ??

 

[EvenSteven]

Anyone care to speculate on how the Maple Leafs shake-up will affect Wellwood's situation ? With the Marlies staff also apparently part of the Dubas purge, it might mean an upward opportunity for him ECHL >>> AHL.....or will he be viewed as part of the coaching staff to be dismissed ??? How far down the chain will this housecleaning go ??

Wellwood is having success at that level. It would be a shame if he was involved in the purge. If anything, he deserves a promotion if not status quo.