Windsor Spitfires 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 7)

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More from the peanut gallery - Dionisio is not going to "save the day". They will be better with him in but he is just not enough to tip the scales. His suspension is more the issue. He would have been more of " factor" if he was in for the first 2 games .

Costanzo had been fine but I do understand why Savard is starting Onuska. He has to do something to spark this team. This will likely backfire on him but at least he is trying something. Having said this if Onuska can get back to form and steal a game then we have a series and would likely see a vastly improved Spits team. Here's hoping.

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That’s easy. Luke Cavallin in last years playoffs. If the Spits had Cavallin I’m sure they win it all last year
This is a bizarre comment. The OP was asking who you would rather have in game 3, and your answer is someone too old to play? Surprised you didn't respond with DiPietro.

But to play along, if you dropped one of your OA from last year's roster to make room for Cavallin, which one? And then how would you have plugged the hole that left? And then spending all those assets, were you rebuilding this season instead of finishing first in the West?
 

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All this talk about 1 vs 8?

Let’s all be completely honest. If London hadn’t fallen in the toilet for no apparent reason for like three weeks and the runway was a little longer for the Sting, Windsor would be a 3 seed. And, if we are being honest, that is probably where they really should be on any ranking scale. They are first in the West and didn’t make it onto the CHL Top 10 either.

Kitchener is probably more of a true #4 seed when you look at roster and deadline lifting.

In my mind, this really is a #3 vs #4 series. I still expected windsor to win this but of the top 3 seeds in the West, Windsor is least impressive. Of the bottom 4 seeds int he West, Kitchener is the best of them with Flint slightly behind.

There is a reason why tmany people “could see an upset“ in the West. The top teams really aren’t as strong as usual and the bottom teams aren’t as weak as usual. We were bound to get some wonky result somewhere. This “seems” to be the series it is happening in.

HOWEVER…
In 2019, the 67’s reeled off 14 straight wins to start the playoffs including the first two games of the Finals vs Guelph. The first game was 7-2 Ottawa. Guelph came back and won the next four. All Windsor needs to do is win Game 3. Once that happens, everything can turn around. Momentum can shift. We’ve seen it soooo many times int he OHL playoffs, especially when an underdog starts off quick out the gate.
 

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This is a bizarre comment. The OP was asking who you would rather have in game 3, and your answer is someone too old to play? Surprised you didn't respond with DiPietro.

But to play along, if you dropped one of your OA from last year's roster to make room for Cavallin, which one? And then how would you have plugged the hole that left? And then spending all those assets, were you rebuilding this season instead of finishing first in the West?
He asked to name a goalie that outperformed him when it matters and brought up whether anyone seen his playoff record thru minor midget. Not sure where he asked about who I’d rather start in game 3. Sounded more like they were defending onuska and how he has always outperformed other goalies when it mattered which is not the case.
 

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JC is the better goalie, BUT, he has fought the puck a bit. Still not his fault team is here tho. One D man playing so hurt he shouldnt be. Holmes easily the biggest liability back there. But to be clear theres about 4 guys who can hold their heads up, everyone else should be ashamed. This is on your GM and coaching staff for the most part. If they loose in round 1 im calling for heads to roll including BB and both assistant coaches. Savard will learn but ive seen enough from the rest. No good feedback from a single source i use.
 

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All this talk about 1 vs 8?

Let’s all be completely honest. If London hadn’t fallen in the toilet for no apparent reason for like three weeks and the runway was a little longer for the Sting, Windsor would be a 3 seed. And, if we are being honest, that is probably where they really should be on any ranking scale. They are first in the West and didn’t make it onto the CHL Top 10 either.

Kitchener is probably more of a true #4 seed when you look at roster and deadline lifting.

In my mind, this really is a #3 vs #4 series. I still expected windsor to win this but of the top 3 seeds in the West, Windsor is least impressive. Of the bottom 4 seeds int he West, Kitchener is the best of them with Flint slightly behind.

There is a reason why tmany people “could see an upset“ in the West. The top teams really aren’t as strong as usual and the bottom teams aren’t as weak as usual. We were bound to get some wonky result somewhere. This “seems” to be the series it is happening in.

HOWEVER…
In 2019, the 67’s reeled off 14 straight wins to start the playoffs including the first two games of the Finals vs Guelph. The first game was 7-2 Ottawa. Guelph came back and won the next four. All Windsor needs to do is win Game 3. Once that happens, everything can turn around. Momentum can shift. We’ve seen it soooo many times int he OHL playoffs, especially when an underdog starts off quick out the gate.
Ottawa also lost their starting goalie in game 14 and their back up was too very good in the final 4 games.
 

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Ottawa also lost their starting goalie in game 14 and their back up was too very good in the final 4 games.
In fairness, Andree was a pretty good goalie. He wasn’t the reason why they lost 4 straight. Guelph flipped the switch and took over the series. That;s the point. Time for Windsor to flip the switch.
 

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To trade away the future for 2 home playoff games in the first round is pretty silly, and we’re 120 minutes away from that happening.

Now We have to win 4 of the next 5, if we want to get out of the first round for the second time in a dozen years.

The awful part about this situation, is it’s not the rookies. Jr B guys were the most exciting thing on the ice, and Greentree adds a bit of a spark. Christoforo has been put in a bad spot as the sole D man on a struggling powerplay, but that aside, I think he’s been playing very well with his added minutes. Renwick should be that guy IMO. You have an OA with the best shot on the blue line, and you don’t put him out there on the PP? I get Christoforo earning minutes, I don’t think Renwick should see more ice because he’s an OA, but he’s got a good shot. Set him up at the line. It’ll be more effective than Harrison trying to take off angles slap shots from the face off dot.
 
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In fairness, Andree was a pretty good goalie. He wasn’t the reason why they lost 4 straight. Guelph flipped the switch and took over the series. That;s the point. Time for Windsor to flip the switch.
I know what the point was but Andree was not good at all. You don’t think Guelph wins 4 in a row if Ottawa doesn’t lose their goalie do you. Having a GAA of 5.15 and sv% of 844 makes it a lot easier to flip a switch and keep it going.
 

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I know what the point was but Andree was not good at all. You don’t think Guelph wins 4 in a row if Ottawa doesn’t lose their goalie do you. Having a GAA of 5.15 and sv% of 844 makes it a lot easier to flip a switch and keep it going.
Andree had a 2.48 and .910 in the regular season and played more minutes than DiPietro. He had two poor games and two more than adequate games in That series. He was a more than capable goalie. He followed up that season with a 2.42 and .916 but Covid kept him from playoff hockey When the season was scrapped.

Good goalies can be made to look poor when the team in front of them is overrun by another quality team. Luukkonen gave up 20 goals over 4 games and was pulled in game one against Ottawa. He was the best goalie in the league. His team got run over by a better team. Same can be said for Ottawa and Andree. For whatever reason, Guelph played lazy hockey in three series and somehow flipped a switch and came back from 3-0 (LDN), 3-1 (SAG) and 2-0 (OTT). In that Ottawa series, they went back home for Game 3 and were a completely different team.

Windsor needs to go to Kitchener, flip a switch, and be a completely different team.
 

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Andree had a 2.48 and .910 in the regular season and played more minutes than DiPietro. He had two poor games and two more than adequate games in That series. He was a more than capable goalie. He followed up that season with a 2.42 and .916 but Covid kept him from playoff hockey When the season was scrapped.

Good goalies can be made to look poor when the team in front of them is overrun by another quality team. Luukkonen gave up 20 goals over 4 games and was pulled in game one against Ottawa. He was the best goalie in the league. His team got run over by a better team. Same can be said for Ottawa and Andree. For whatever reason, Guelph played lazy hockey in three series and somehow flipped a switch and came back from 3-0 (LDN), 3-1 (SAG) and 2-0 (OTT). In that Ottawa series, they went back home for Game 3 and were a completely different team.

Windsor needs to go to Kitchener, flip a switch, and be a completely different team.
Which I think is possible. Kitchener hasn’t faced any adversity in this series yet and they have completely collapsed and had struggles finding consistency this year at times. My worry if I was a Spits fan is seeing Onuska in net starting Game 3.
 

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Which I think is possible. Kitchener hasn’t faced any adversity in this series yet and they have completely collapsed and had struggles finding consistency this year at times. My worry if I was a Spits fan is seeing Onuska in net starting Game 3.
Hopefully Kitchener doesn't shoot glove side..
 

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To some extent so far, Windsor is paying the price for how embarrassingly poorly coached Kitchener was for the first three quarters of the season. They never had any business being anywhere near 8th seed. And in fairness, Windsor earned an easier matchup than this.
And kudos to Kitchener to what they done so far,even more proof the 4-0 shutout the Rangers put on Windsor last night according to Kitchener Record reporter Josh Brown,was Windsor's 1st shutout against in 4 years,225 games including playoffs.
You know you are in trouble when that happens.
 

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And kudos to Kitchener to what they done so far,even more proof the 4-0 shutout the Rangers put on Windsor last night according to Kitchener Record reporter Josh Brown,was Windsor's 1st shutout against in 4 years,225 games including playoffs.
You know you are in trouble when that happens.
That is an incredible stat really. And it dates back to 2018 since Windsor has been shutout at home. In junior hockey, that’s a remarkable run.
 

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Savard's goal is to be an NHL coach, he was already an assistant. No NHL team is going near him with a 10-foot pole after this ugly series loss. Every chance he tried to make backfired big time. 5 forwards on the PP = 2 more shorthanded goals last night. His refusal to change the PP breakout after not even being able to set it up.

Worst part is, the refs have actually helped the Spitfires, PP's are 11-4 Windsor. Kitchener is due for a game where they get more PP's. Their PP has looked dominant, in fact everything about that Kitchener team is elite. The passing, the breakouts, the PK, the finishing, physicality, d zone coverage. They legit looked better than Hamilton did last year. How did they finish 8th?

The team has zero draft picks in the cupboard all two get embarrassingly swept in the 1st round and be laughed at throughout the CHL. The fans have done their part, several 6000 +crowds the entire second half and the players decided not to show up.
 

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Some thoughts on this one...

- Full props to Kitchener. They were as good defensively as you'll see. Any real chances on Costantini were stifled real fast.
- Windsor's PP was atrocious. How do you... not only go 0-6, but allow 2 SHG? Something has to change.
- None of this was on Costanzo. He's played very well, all things considered.
- You don't want to see Maggio fighting but he's had enough and I appreciate the fire in the belly. Hopefully now we'll see guys like Jodoin, McManus, Holmes, whoever do the same. It's great that your captain wants to take charge but he shouldn't be fighting. If I'm in that room, I'm coming out guns-a-blazin on Tuesday. Strangely, this is where O'Flaherty would have been very handy.
- I'm almost happy the club isn't content with how tonight went. They're not accepting the poor and have a strong desire to change it.
- Onuska starting G3 doesn't surprise me. Costanzo has played well but they need that kick in the...
- Man, Dionicio is going to be a huge help on Tuesday.
- This wasn't officiating, it wasn't a lack of depth, it was simply a Rangers' club who wanted it more. Now, can Windsor respond?
- Oh... did I read people calling for Savard's firing? Tell me I'm wrong, please? He's the best coach they've had in years. This isn't on him. Let's not bruise some ankles jumping off the bandwagon.
They gave that same sob story after game 1. Even to the point where Savard 'guaranteed' they'd be better. They were not better. IF anything by watching the interviews after the game it appears they've already accepted defeat. Just dejected tones and the old we are getting outworked type thing. I see no desire they are going to just randomly turn it on now. Especially with a goalie who ranks 20th in GAA and save % in net. Heck, they generated zero real scoring chances last night.
 

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I'd never want to burst our own bubble but like everyone has said, there is a reason Kitchener is 8th. That being said, I don't think we have ever seen them play like this, so I honestly can't comment on what will happen next. I just know this season has been a nightmare rollercoaster. 4 straight from Windsor wouldn't surprise me, however whatever Kitchener is doing right now kinda is surprising (althoughwas expected months ago). I really don't know what will happen games 3 and 4, but I'm so down for whatever it is. Finally some excitement. Hope to see a bunch of Spits fans at the Aud this week. LOTS of tickets left.
 

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I'd never want to burst our own bubble but like everyone has said, there is a reason Kitchener is 8th. That being said, I don't think we have ever seen them play like this, so I honestly can't comment on what will happen next. I just know this season has been a nightmare rollercoaster. 4 straight from Windsor wouldn't surprise me, however whatever Kitchener is doing right now kinda is surprising (althoughwas expected months ago). I really don't know what will happen games 3 and 4, but I'm so down for whatever it is. Finally some excitement. Hope to see a bunch of Spits fans at the Aud this week. LOTS of tickets left.
Don't think you will see too many Spits fans at the Aud other than family. midweek games and outcomes don't look promising. most won't drop $100 dollars in gas money and tickets and concessions prices.
 
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