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Windsor Spitfires 2021-22 Season Thread
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Spits lose a heartbreaker but came to play
Nice effort out there
Medina makes 2 big stops to keep Spits in it, one big pad save in third and one partial breakaway in OT.
ANother strong 3rd period I like that alot.
They have to practice the shootout...go in on goal with speed where the tender has to think fast.
THats all I have....
Nice effort out there
Medina makes 2 big stops to keep Spits in it, one big pad save in third and one partial breakaway in OT.
ANother strong 3rd period I like that alot.
They have to practice the shootout...go in on goal with speed where the tender has to think fast.
THats all I have....
Windsor lost in ot.
Threw a point away due to a horrendous giveaway.
Windsor with another very bad start.
Coach didnt have them ready to play again to start. Not a good thing u want to keep doing.
Longer the game went, more Windsor got into rhythm.
Got to find or get more forwards to play. 2 lines constantly playing wears your players down. Lucky its beginning of season.
Normal crowd for a Windsor game.
Threw a point away due to a horrendous giveaway.
Windsor with another very bad start.
Coach didnt have them ready to play again to start. Not a good thing u want to keep doing.
Longer the game went, more Windsor got into rhythm.
Got to find or get more forwards to play. 2 lines constantly playing wears your players down. Lucky its beginning of season.
Normal crowd for a Windsor game.
OHLTG
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While I appreciate your subtle attempt to throw a jab at the crowd...
1. Windsor routinely had 3,900+ during pre-pandemic, which, according to my math, is over 1,000 more than today's game (2,770). So, no, it's below normal and Thanksgiving likely played a part in that.
2. Be glad we HAVE hockey this year. It's been a fustercluck of an 19-months. Frankly, they could get 1,000 people in the rink and I'd still be thrilled to be there.
I thought the effort was good after falling down 2-0. Unfortunately they gave 2 points away and only got 1. When they got up a goal they got extremely loose defensively. Need better starts, be happy with only 3 points in 6 games when they have only led for 8 minutes in total this year. Agreed on your other observations.
Very entertaining game today, fast-paced.
Overall I am pleased with the Spits' performance, they have run into hot goalies so far but they have carried the play for the most part in these three games. The forward core is among the best in the OHL. Defensively they need some work. The ugly giveaways have resulted in three direct goals for the opponent, including Zito's terrible mistake late in the 3rd. Those issues are easily solved though.
Sobolev has the talent but the game appears a bit too fast to what he's accustomed to, he will improve with more experience.
The goaltending is definitely mediocre at best but they should start filling the net. That Miedema is going to be an elite talent in this league. Wyatt Johnston always seems to make the right play, a great talent. Overall I feel Windsor had some bad puck luck as well. Totally expect this team to win the division.
Overall I am pleased with the Spits' performance, they have run into hot goalies so far but they have carried the play for the most part in these three games. The forward core is among the best in the OHL. Defensively they need some work. The ugly giveaways have resulted in three direct goals for the opponent, including Zito's terrible mistake late in the 3rd. Those issues are easily solved though.
Sobolev has the talent but the game appears a bit too fast to what he's accustomed to, he will improve with more experience.
The goaltending is definitely mediocre at best but they should start filling the net. That Miedema is going to be an elite talent in this league. Wyatt Johnston always seems to make the right play, a great talent. Overall I feel Windsor had some bad puck luck as well. Totally expect this team to win the division.
Spits overage dman Louka Henault was not dressed tonight for the final exhibition game for Anaheim's AHL farm team the San Diego Gulls.
The Gulls start their regular season schedule this Saturday on the road vs Ontario Reign.
Also Anaheim's East Coast team the Tulsa Oilers begins regular season Sat Oct 23 ,trying to figure if he is being there or kept by San Diego or sent back to Windsor.
The Gulls start their regular season schedule this Saturday on the road vs Ontario Reign.
Also Anaheim's East Coast team the Tulsa Oilers begins regular season Sat Oct 23 ,trying to figure if he is being there or kept by San Diego or sent back to Windsor.
No doubt great news to have Henault back for his overage year,though to say Wiindsor needs his help alot is a bit hyperbole.
Defensively they have allowed only 5 goals in their last 2 games,only 4 five on five, 3 points in last 2 games,easily could have been 4,their PP is tied for 5th,despite not scoring yesterday, their PK is tied for 4th oa,yesterday was the 1st game that Windsor allowed a PP goal against and that was in the 1st period
Most people agree Windsor through the 1st 3 games were the better team 7 of 9 periods,were it not for bad goaltending in game 1,and a terrible giveaway in the 3rd late yesterday, this team would be 3-0 instead of 1-1-0-1,and that's despite going against 2 of the best goalies in the league.
No doubt Henault will help offensively and on the PP,I am hopeful that his time in Europe and with Anaheim the last 7 weeks has rounded out his defensive game.
Plays out this way better all the way around.
Here the update plus/ minus for Spits dmen after 3 games from worst to best.
Sobolev (-6)
Robinson (-4)
Ride (-3)
Deangelis (0)
Renwick (1)
Ladd (1)
Jodoin (2)
Some context, Sobolev was -5 in
game 1,-1 total last 2 games
Robinson has been -3 in last 2 games
Ride was -4 in game 1,was +1 in last 2 games,Ladd was -1 after game 1,+ 2 last 2 games,Jodoin +1 last 2 games Renwick 0 last 2 games, and DeAngilis +1 in his last 2 games,overall except for Robinson improvements from the rest knowing its early in the season.
Sobolev (-6)
Robinson (-4)
Ride (-3)
Deangelis (0)
Renwick (1)
Ladd (1)
Jodoin (2)
Some context, Sobolev was -5 in
game 1,-1 total last 2 games
Robinson has been -3 in last 2 games
Ride was -4 in game 1,was +1 in last 2 games,Ladd was -1 after game 1,+ 2 last 2 games,Jodoin +1 last 2 games Renwick 0 last 2 games, and DeAngilis +1 in his last 2 games,overall except for Robinson improvements from the rest knowing its early in the season.
OHLTG
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With Henault coming back does Windsor continue carrying only 12 forwards while now potentially carrying 8 D?
With Baisov out they've been dressing 7 D and 11 forwards. With a young line up and some forwards rotating through with their 4th line players you would hope they would add at least 1 more forward to their roster and carry 7 D with one being reassigned or dealt.
Ideally the team would carry 14 forwards so you can always rotate the young kids in and out as needed so they are kept fresh or have options when someone is injured.
While stats can be used to make many things fit a narrative the only stats that matter are they are 0 -1 - 0 - 1 at home and 1 - 0 on the road needing OT to get that win. They've scored 9 and given up 12. They're playing .500 hockey by points.
There's lots of work to do up front, this was expected to score lots, on D where some thought this team had one of the better Dand ln goal where some thought our starter would a top 5 goaltender in the league.
With Baisov out they've been dressing 7 D and 11 forwards. With a young line up and some forwards rotating through with their 4th line players you would hope they would add at least 1 more forward to their roster and carry 7 D with one being reassigned or dealt.
Ideally the team would carry 14 forwards so you can always rotate the young kids in and out as needed so they are kept fresh or have options when someone is injured.
While stats can be used to make many things fit a narrative the only stats that matter are they are 0 -1 - 0 - 1 at home and 1 - 0 on the road needing OT to get that win. They've scored 9 and given up 12. They're playing .500 hockey by points.
There's lots of work to do up front, this was expected to score lots, on D where some thought this team had one of the better Dand ln goal where some thought our starter would a top 5 goaltender in the league.
Agreed you need to dress 12 forwards especially if Johnston is the only one getting the ice time with the 4th line.
Yep there isn't a road to saying they should be better than their current record considering they haven't shown up on time to start games. You can say they have come back in all 3 games but even the opener that was a bad 3rd period which pretty much overshadows the good periods they have played.
The thing is about scoring goals is if they even don't score a lot as people thought where will they make up for it?? Better D?? Better goaltending?? I think the Gaudreau and Brochu have been better than Medina thus far. Considering the schedule, how many times are the Spits going to see Gaudreau and Brochu?? Barring injury I would bet they would see them at least 12 out of those 16 meetings.
Legend, call it what it is, the current situation. We can debate what ifs all night and I've recognized the improved as the games went on but right now they have 3 of a possible 6 points, winless at home with two of three games played at home. First game wasn't pretty, most agree and the next two were very much improved with an OT win on the road and a shootout loss at home.
Are they playing horribly? No.
Are they meeting expectations based on what I posted that some have said on here? No.
That simply means there's work to be done.
When some were hard on Piiroinen for giving up early goals and putting the team in whole most games those people were criticized regardless of how much credit they gave Piiroinen when his play improved as the game went on. Medina has looked like Piiroinen so far. Team ends up down a couple of goals early then gas to play catch up. Piiroinen was not a top 5 goaltender in the league, is it likely Medina will be? Time will tell but it's not a great start. Don't forget, I like Medina.
This amazing offence was going to be one of the best in the league and while it's nice to see most getting on the scoresheet they have not met expectations in the early going, vets in particular.
This was going to be one of the better D yet they've been a bit slow to provide support. Henault who plays an offensive game, so far has needed others to support his offensive game and has been a defensive liability is the piece to solidify the D? Unless his entire style has changed he's a et who needs as much support as a rookie or second year player. Without significant improvement to his style of ay he'll be the one who carries the puck up ice, down the left side and turns it over when he runs out of room then be the last one back not realizing he needs to defend. He's not what is going to change this team's fortunes in their own end. This team still doesn't have the type of D they need.
I think this is a good team with potential to be much better. With the right moves they could contend but will the moves be made?
There's some reasons to believe in the potential of this team, but no matter how good rookies are vets win titles. If you think any team is going to win a title with 40% of their roster being rookies, I don't know what to say. Picks and youth will be dealt by teams who want to win to acquire vets and be better than the rest.
There's also reason to believe that there's questions reeping around some of Windsor's vets. Some aren't playing to the level they have in the past and when they're supposed to be big contributors they need to show it early and often. So far, it's not happening with some and while some have improved others have fallen off.
Are they playing horribly? No.
Are they meeting expectations based on what I posted that some have said on here? No.
That simply means there's work to be done.
When some were hard on Piiroinen for giving up early goals and putting the team in whole most games those people were criticized regardless of how much credit they gave Piiroinen when his play improved as the game went on. Medina has looked like Piiroinen so far. Team ends up down a couple of goals early then gas to play catch up. Piiroinen was not a top 5 goaltender in the league, is it likely Medina will be? Time will tell but it's not a great start. Don't forget, I like Medina.
This amazing offence was going to be one of the best in the league and while it's nice to see most getting on the scoresheet they have not met expectations in the early going, vets in particular.
This was going to be one of the better D yet they've been a bit slow to provide support. Henault who plays an offensive game, so far has needed others to support his offensive game and has been a defensive liability is the piece to solidify the D? Unless his entire style has changed he's a et who needs as much support as a rookie or second year player. Without significant improvement to his style of ay he'll be the one who carries the puck up ice, down the left side and turns it over when he runs out of room then be the last one back not realizing he needs to defend. He's not what is going to change this team's fortunes in their own end. This team still doesn't have the type of D they need.
I think this is a good team with potential to be much better. With the right moves they could contend but will the moves be made?
There's some reasons to believe in the potential of this team, but no matter how good rookies are vets win titles. If you think any team is going to win a title with 40% of their roster being rookies, I don't know what to say. Picks and youth will be dealt by teams who want to win to acquire vets and be better than the rest.
There's also reason to believe that there's questions reeping around some of Windsor's vets. Some aren't playing to the level they have in the past and when they're supposed to be big contributors they need to show it early and often. So far, it's not happening with some and while some have improved others have fallen off.
Cfaub
While I agree its unlikely a team will win a title with 40 % roster with rooks though you have to admit because of the double cohort every team in the conference pretty much in the same boat,its how they plus your vets perform and I do like Windsor's future compared to anyone in the conference.
No doubt Medina has to play better overall,he did improve last year from 1st half to 2nd and I see the same trend happening.
With Henault playing,toss in Robinson, Ladd,and Renwick,that's 4 D with experience, more then most teams,Jodoin has played well early,Sobolev struggled in game 1,has been much better the last 2 outings,rookies Deangelis and Ride are starting to come along,it will be interesting to work 8D,never can have enough imo,in my view as along as the team controls play and they did most of the 3 games,good things will occur.
Scoring and more points from the likes of D'amico, Macdonald,and Maggio are essential for more team success,some of the vets you wrote about .
Medina ,18 months ago finished with a goals against average of 3.46,he is now 3.49 and dropping, just the 1 bad outing, better in Sarnia,even better in Windsor yesterday.
I never fault a goalie when losing a shootout especially if it goes to 8 shooters each.
Windsor should and will be building on what as occured in the last 2 outings,not game 1.
Toss in Henault, who I think must be improved from 18 months ago,would not have lasted in Europe last year,and an NHL development/ training camp for 7 weeks if he played like you said he did.
I think he will be a big add,and I will be curious to see how Baisov does when he returns, looked pretty good in the 1 game he played.
My confidence in this team hasn't changed,3 games way too early for concern,especially if there has been improvements since game 1.
Friday's rematch at London on Friday should be interesting.
While I agree its unlikely a team will win a title with 40 % roster with rooks though you have to admit because of the double cohort every team in the conference pretty much in the same boat,its how they plus your vets perform and I do like Windsor's future compared to anyone in the conference.
No doubt Medina has to play better overall,he did improve last year from 1st half to 2nd and I see the same trend happening.
With Henault playing,toss in Robinson, Ladd,and Renwick,that's 4 D with experience, more then most teams,Jodoin has played well early,Sobolev struggled in game 1,has been much better the last 2 outings,rookies Deangelis and Ride are starting to come along,it will be interesting to work 8D,never can have enough imo,in my view as along as the team controls play and they did most of the 3 games,good things will occur.
Scoring and more points from the likes of D'amico, Macdonald,and Maggio are essential for more team success,some of the vets you wrote about .
Medina ,18 months ago finished with a goals against average of 3.46,he is now 3.49 and dropping, just the 1 bad outing, better in Sarnia,even better in Windsor yesterday.
I never fault a goalie when losing a shootout especially if it goes to 8 shooters each.
Windsor should and will be building on what as occured in the last 2 outings,not game 1.
Toss in Henault, who I think must be improved from 18 months ago,would not have lasted in Europe last year,and an NHL development/ training camp for 7 weeks if he played like you said he did.
I think he will be a big add,and I will be curious to see how Baisov does when he returns, looked pretty good in the 1 game he played.
My confidence in this team hasn't changed,3 games way too early for concern,especially if there has been improvements since game 1.
Friday's rematch at London on Friday should be interesting.
GermanSpitfire
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Awesome News Henault is back, finally have a PP QB and someone who’ll be able to move the puck.
ohloutsider
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My weekend thoughts ( or ramblings by an outsider) -
My oh my are they rusty ( as is every other team in the O ) I haven't seen this poor passing since novice house league. Kids can't make or receive a pass. D put the pass on the boards, no one there, rookies have a ways to go. This one needs time. There was at least 3 or 4 suicide passes on Sunday, lucky London wasn't watching for that. Not going to get too hyped on it until 10 or 15 games in.
Both Cuylle and Robinson need to adjust to the slower game, both were trying to make moves that other players weren't ready for. This will be an issue for Henault when he gets back. They will figure out timing. No worries there.
Disappointed with some vets, they need to step it up and lead. Notice no C out there, I think they are waiting for a vet to step up?
Impressed with Johnston and Zito, they are players that have show significant gains. They show why NHL teams liked them.
Medina - rusty or something else? These bad starts are tough to recover from. That is on the whole team but even one more save would have turned the tide.
Hoping a few days of practice and some skills coaching will help their results moving forward. Go Spits.
My oh my are they rusty ( as is every other team in the O ) I haven't seen this poor passing since novice house league. Kids can't make or receive a pass. D put the pass on the boards, no one there, rookies have a ways to go. This one needs time. There was at least 3 or 4 suicide passes on Sunday, lucky London wasn't watching for that. Not going to get too hyped on it until 10 or 15 games in.
Both Cuylle and Robinson need to adjust to the slower game, both were trying to make moves that other players weren't ready for. This will be an issue for Henault when he gets back. They will figure out timing. No worries there.
Disappointed with some vets, they need to step it up and lead. Notice no C out there, I think they are waiting for a vet to step up?
Impressed with Johnston and Zito, they are players that have show significant gains. They show why NHL teams liked them.
Medina - rusty or something else? These bad starts are tough to recover from. That is on the whole team but even one more save would have turned the tide.
Hoping a few days of practice and some skills coaching will help their results moving forward. Go Spits.
OHLTG
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Robinson has been doing a great job on the PP. Not sure Henault gets that spot on the PP right away.
GermanSpitfire
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He will, he was on the Spitfires 2nd PP unit in 2019 and was good at moving the puck.
Hes now 18 months older and has played in a mens league. He’ll be on PP unit 1.
Now with 8 D, there has to be a move. Not enough ice to go around. I think it’s pretty obvious that the top 4 are Robinson, Henault, Ladd and Renwick. And as much as it pains me, they won’t give up on Sobolev this early no matter how many times he hangs Robinson out to dry. So there is 5. Can’t share 1 spot for Ride, D’angelos and Jodoin. Who’s the odd man out and what are the pairings?
Henault. Ladd
Robinson. Renwick
Deangolis/Ride. Sobolev
Jodion is the odd man out.
Henault. Ladd
Robinson. Renwick
Deangolis/Ride. Sobolev
Jodion is the odd man out.
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