Player Discussion William Nylander

Anthrax442

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Not for the dummies at the cash box. Marner goals are priceless.


because he scores once every fortnight

Depends on the player and what other skills he brings to the table.


DOmi scored 9 Goals and 38 assists last season. If he had 30 goals and 17 assists, his contract would look completely different. And he would be on another team
 

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because he scores once every fortnight




DOmi scored 9 Goals and 38 assists last season. If he had 30 goals and 17 assists, his contract would look completely different. And he would be on another team
Sure. I thought you were referring to the high end players.
If Kucherov was UFA last summer what would he have gotten for his 83 and 100 assist seasons? If assists are worth half as much as goals he’s not even a 100 point player.
 
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Sure. I thought you were referring to the high end players.
If Kucherov was UFA last summer what would he have gotten for his 83 and 100 assist seasons? If assists are worth half as much as goals he’s not even a 100 point player.
Are you really saying that assists is as important as goals?

No doubt points are points, but goals are just more important.
The One Goal = TWO assists thing has more to do with the simple fact that you can only record A goal when a goal is scored while you can record ZERO, ONE or TWO assists per goal scored.

Now if Kuch was a UFA last season, given his age, he will get around 11mil due to that fact that he did scored 44 goals along with 100 assists and 30goals and 83 assists the year before. While being pretty much a 30 goals scorer in his career plus always performing in the playoffs.
 
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That is pretty crazy sounding. 30 goal scorers fetch a premium because, now get this. They make the 10 30 guy possible and the skill to score is more rare than the skill to get an assist. This is true and self evident if only because every goal generates up to 2 assists.
Actual GOALS determine the outcome of actual games in terms of Wins.

If that other player does not score your so call;ed assist is essentially nothing more than a nice pass, and your team loses without the goal scorer performing their part.

Goal scorers get paid a premium. Last year Auston Matthews scored 69 goals and 38 assists on the season for 107 points. There is no way Matthews is the highest paid player in the game today if you reversed that to 38 goals and 69 assists instead. Matthews contract is based on Rocket Richard trophy result & season leading the league in GOALS. There is no trophy for leading the league in ASSISTS, unless your GOALS combined make you the leagues leading Scorer.
 

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Matty became highest paid after an 85 point season, 106 high, for being the best goal scorer.
Matthews got his contract after years of being one of the best point and primary point producers in the league, with elite defense.
Actual GOALS determine the outcome of actual games in terms of Wins.
And actual goals are obtained through both playmaking and shooting the puck.
 
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Gary Nylund

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Sure. I thought you were referring to the high end players.
If Kucherov was UFA last summer what would he have gotten for his 83 and 100 assist seasons? If assists are worth half as much as goals he’s not even a 100 point player.
I'll take irrelevant facts for 800. :laugh::laugh:

The lengths people will go to ...
 

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It's mad how he constantly gets put down by a section of the fan base
He’s not a max effort player all the time then again none of our players are but he’s worst than most so I get what might bother some of the boys it’s amazing he gets results and makes it literally look effortless
 

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It's mad how he constantly gets put down by a section of the fan base

It all started with Babcocks hatred of Willy or that appearance. Babcock could have just trying to break in a horse. Regardless they special M club certainly were relentless until he 40 goaled them in the face.
 
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Actual GOALS determine the outcome of actual games in terms of Wins.

If that other player does not score your so call;ed assist is essentially nothing more than a nice pass, and your team loses without the goal scorer performing their part.

Goal scorers get paid a premium. Last year Auston Matthews scored 69 goals and 38 assists on the season for 107 points. There is no way Matthews is the highest paid player in the game today if you reversed that to 38 goals and 69 assists instead. Matthews contract is based on Rocket Richard trophy result & season leading the league in GOALS. There is no trophy for leading the league in ASSISTS, unless your GOALS combined make you the leagues leading Scorer.
Yet the bolded stats almost mirror McDavid’s stats, other than the one year he scored 64 but then again he already had his deal
 

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Really enjoyed watching Nylander mature to be one of the league’s best scoring threats

Great start to the season
 

Gary Nylund

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Equally glad that his overpay is starting to not look like an overpay at all. And we have him locked for years

If somehow manages a Rocket out of all this the overpay talk will instantly end.
I remember last season saying something like it would be wise to not put a ceiling on what Willie is capable of, but I wasn't even thinking of him being a threat to win the rocket. But now ... of course it's still early but it seems like him winning the Rocket isn't out of the question at all. Considering he's never had a set pair of linemates and he doesn't even get the ice time he should be getting, that would be an incredible accomplishment!!
 
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Equally glad that his overpay is starting to not look like an overpay at all. And we have him locked for years

If somehow manages a Rocket out of all this the overpay talk will instantly end.
yes that begets the question is regular season success or do you dream of something more?
 

Confucius

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Are you really saying that assists is as important as goals?

No doubt points are points, but goals are just more important.
The One Goal = TWO assists thing has more to do with the simple fact that you can only record A goal when a goal is scored while you can record ZERO, ONE or TWO assists per goal scored.

Now if Kuch was a UFA last season, given his age, he will get around 11mil due to that fact that he did scored 44 goals along with 100 assists and 30goals and 83 assists the year before. While being pretty much a 30 goals scorer in his career plus always performing in the playoffs.
Obviously the league deems playmaking at a premium that is why they award a point even for a secondary assist.
 

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