Value of: William Nylander

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He will be at best a 2C.

His frame isn't 1C type.

Filling a hole is needed. matthews/kadri is a fine top 2 centres.

What?

And this thread makes no sense, Leafs first need to see what they got in Nylander not trade him now. And Leafs got a intresting RHD in Zaitsev, lets see how he fits in first and not trade away a "A" asset in Nylander, chillax.
 

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What?

And this thread makes no sense, Leafs first need to see what they got in Nylander not trade him now. And Leafs got a intresting RHD in Zaitsev, lets see how he fits in first and not trade away a "A" asset in Nylander, chillax.

zaitsev could become belov, and carrick isn't better than a 3rd pairing dman.
 

LeafGrief

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zaitsev could become belov, and carrick isn't better than a 3rd pairing dman.

Or Nylander and Zaitsev could both be allstars. Lets see what we have before we scramble to fill perceived needs. Foresight and patience are part of this.
 

tsujimoto74

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Sure, but a Jones type would need to come back.

Willie isn't going anywhere.

It took an established 1C to get Jones. I doubt the type of d-man the Leafs would need to move Nylander would be available for him.

Besides, it's fun having the Nylander bros down the QEW from each other. Leafs shouldn't ruin that. ;)
 

Hockey 4 Life

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The leafs should stand pat at least until halfway through this next season to see how the new members of the nhl club are doing. That's not to say the leafs shouldn't always be looking to upgrade but trading any of our core or future core should absolutely wait until we have an idea of where there development may go in the coming years.
 

Trapper

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It took an established 1C to get Jones. I doubt the type of d-man the Leafs would need to move Nylander would be available for him.

Besides, it's fun having the Nylander bros down the QEW from each other. Leafs shouldn't ruin that. ;)

I'm actually looking forward to that. The future Leafs/Sabres games.
The Nylander brothers. Fellow Americans Eichel/Matthews. Ex London teammates Marner/Pu. Good times.
 

Hockey 4 Life

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getting max value for assets is needed.

non zero chance one of marner/nylander don't work out, soo...

The point is you or I have no clue how they will pan out and your assuming the worst by deciding there value will never be higher then now. If you feel inclined to gamble go hit the casino or play on poker stars because I can guarantee you that Toronto Management wont be trading any of the kids anytime soon and the vast majority of the toronto fan base wants nothing to do with trading any of the young high potential kids.
 

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Yeah, Nylander isn't going anywhere. Even if he is, you're about five or six years too early on this thread.
 

HarrisonFord

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Firstly you would need the attention span of a fly, then you would need to ignore everything Management has said and done, finally you would have to be a trade happy freak who thinks every position in a rebuild is sorted in the first two years.

Fact is our team has one trade chip left that is truly expendable and probably available, his name is Bozak. All these trade proposals offering up JVR, Gardiner and our First next year are probably more inspired by the lack of anything sexy to package in imaginary trade proposals.

Fact is we are not really a trading team at this point beyond minor moves. Bozak and some of our young wingers are probably the only things that are expendable and even with the prospects it is still a bit early to say we know what we have.

Yeah. I think Gardiner is 100% not going anywhere. His shot suppression metrics are amazing. He really stepped up and showed us what he's capable of after Dion got traded.

JVR to me is also part of our long-term core, I agree. #1LW is a really tough position to fill. JVR is one, and he's 26. His style of game is also one that seems to me like it'd be effective well into his 30s. One of the salary cap things I love on the Leafs is that JVR is up for UFA the moment Lupul's $5.25 comes off the books. Bozak's too if he's not traded.

Bozak is probably the highest on the team in terms of a mix of value and expendibility. It's not going to net us very much (2nd round pick value), so in terms of a D we'd be looking at something like Z. Michalek as a return
 

Funk21

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you wouldn't trade him for Trouba? I would.

Trouba while nice also wants 6 million per while Nylander is in year two of his ELC. Hate to say it because I would love Trouba but the cap considerations have to come into consideration in this day and age regardless of the talent we are getting.
 

WTFMAN99

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Trouba while nice also wants 6 million per while Nylander is in year two of his ELC. Hate to say it because I would love Trouba but the cap considerations have to come into consideration in this day and age regardless of the talent we are getting.

Plus why would would WPG do it? They are loaded at forward.
 

meefer

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I tried not reading this thread, I really did. But the curiousity, the sheer potential of nonsense backing up this 'value' discussion...how could I say no? Ownership of this thread is proving to be more entertaining each day. The suggestion of Nylander being traded before the Leafs determine what type of a player they have is deliciously funny. The number of sites that rank him as a top 5 outside the NHL prospect, would, I humbly suggest, argue that the Leafs, if they consider their best interests to be of some importance, should examine said prospect to determine what his optimum value to the team is. To suggest otherwise inhibits team development much the same way a 16 year old male inhibits a mature and more satisfying engagement with his first lover due to premature ejaculation issues. Patience and self discipline are required if one wishes to be fully satisfied. Nylander will be a Leaf for the foreseeable. And ya, I too am looking forward to the Leafs kicking some Sabre b*tt. I think we've got some great years ahead of both teams and it's going to be fun to watch.

Btw, should a similar thread to this crop up in the days ahead, I can't promise I won't take a peak. I love to laugh.
 

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Just let this die. Nylander isn't being traded. Like the 2nd or 3rd poster said... STOP
 

itsatwoliner

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I rarely post.

But I'm doing so to tell you that your threads are ridiculous, as are your proposals.
 

SnazzyNazzy

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This is completely asinine.

I'm not sure whats worse really, the basic concept of shipping out Nylander, or shipping out Nylander to the Jets for the chance to give Trouba 40 million.
 

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RHD is a huge position of need for the leafs.

IF you get one for him, wouldn't you do it?

HE could very well be a winger long term.

No. I wouldn't do it. Unless it blew my mind. Something insane. Nylander has set records and torn up leagues. Let's see what we have. I'm betting it gives us a great 1-2 punch at Center.
And Brills you make an awful lot of trade threads..
 

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