William Nylander appreciation thread

[1specter]

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Pretty sure when you break it down to 5v5 Willy actually comes out on top.

 

[hobarth]

Nylander gets 2 assists, is plus 2 and he has a play where he's supposed to race another player for an icing, the announcer noticed and condemned him without providing anything like his TOI prior to the icing. I wonder why the announcer didn't provide background info because he very obviously figured it was Nylander being Nylander, the rest of the game meant nothing to him.

I think Nylander has been TO's best forward for the last 4 games, he was TO's best forward during the previous playoffs, yet it's not enough?

I think TO's crappiest forward is Kerfoot, his mistakes are always gigantic, he skates forever but doesn't accomplish much unless he plays with a Nylander type, effort doesn't equate success, results do.

 

[ZEBROA]

They should have played Nylander more. More shifts with him and the best players.
This loss is not his fault , but i would like to see him shoot more. around 4-5 shots would be nice.

 

[ACC1224]

It’s getting difficult to keep defending his effort at times. You can’t take shifts off.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Indeed. That poster just doesn't like Willie so not gonna happen but yeah, Nylander deserves a lot more respect than some are willing to give him.

I just had a quick peek at the stats and was surprised to see this. Average ice time per game in ths playoffs so far:

Matthews 20:31
Marner 21:38
Nylander 16:53

I'm not one to bitch about the coach all the time but this needs to change. The season is on the line and we need more Willie. Free Willie!!

And it continues. Last night's ice time:
Matthews 28:19
Marner 28:04
Nylander 21:46

Nylander was our leading scorer last playoffs and so far this spring, he's tied with Marner with 7 points in 6 games. That's despite Marner having the best goal scorer in hockey to pass to and Marner averaging about 5 more minutes of ice time per game. Yet for some reason Marner is idolized by what seems like almost everyone but Nylander gets crapped on.

To all you guys dumping on Nylander - you are insane. That is all.

They should have played Nylander more. More shifts with him and the best players.
This loss is not his fault , but i would like to see him shoot more. around 4-5 shots would be nice.

Absolutely. I'll just quote myself from yesterday:
"I'm not one to bitch about the coach all the time but this needs to change. The season is on the line and we need more Willie. Free Willie!!"

It’s getting difficult to keep defending his effort at times. You can’t take shifts off.

There's not enough facepalms in the world for ridiculous posts like this. You either care less about winning and more about image or whatever or you just don't have the first clue about what it is you are watching. Get a clue.

 

[Peasy]

And it continues. Last night's ice time:
Matthews 28:19
Marner 28:04
Nylander 21:46

Nylander was our leading scorer last playoffs and so far this spring, he's tied with Marner with 7 points in 6 games. That's despite Marner having the best goal scorer in hockey to pass to and Marner averaging about 5 more minutes of ice time per game. Yet for some reason Marner is idolized by what seems like almost everyone but Nylander gets crapped on.

To all you guys dumping on Nylander - you are insane. That is all.


Absolutely. I'll just quote myself from yesterday:
"I'm not one to bitch about the coach all the time but this needs to change. The season is on the line and we need more Willie. Free Willie!!"





There's not enough facepalms in the world for ridiculous posts like this. You either care less about winning and more about image or whatever or you just don't have the first clue about what it is you are watching. Get a clue.

If the leafs lose game 7, I look forward to Nylander finally fully flourishing under a new team, and fans that will appreciate him for what he is.

 

[ACC1224]

If the leafs lose game 7 (which I think they will), I look forward to Nylander finally fully flourishing under a new team, and fans that will appreciate him for what he is.

Sure if he goes to a market where fans aren’t as knowledgeable. He is what he is, such a frustrating talent.

 

[Peasy]

Sure if he goes to a market where fans aren’t as knowledgeable. He is what he is, such a frustrating talent.

Look at Kadri. Laughin at the Leafs now.

Marner makes a shit play that directly leads to a goal against in OT. Crickets. Nylander pulls up on an icing play. Wow I cannot have that shit anywhere near this team!

Marner also with this half ass fly by where he somehow ends up losing his stick right after he makes a bad giveaway and leads to the goal. But yeah, lets be upset with Nylander. If Nylander was in Marner's shoes for these plays, we wouldnt hear the end of it.

Maybe marner can hold onto his stick next time. Mans choking again when the pressure is the greatest.

 

[ACC1224]

Look at Kadri. Laughin at the Leafs now.

If Nylander had Kadri cahones he’d be a superstar in this league.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I said Marner has been getting about 5 more minutes of ice time than Nylander and I just looked it up to see how close that was.

Marner 22:42
Nylander 17:42

I'll do the math for y'all, the difference is exactly 5 minutes. 5 whole minutes, unbelievable!!

And what also pisses me off tremendously is that during the regular season, Nylander's average TOI was 18:16 and Marner's was 20:53. That's right, Keefe has bumped up the ice time for M&M in the playoffs which is as it should be but for some inexplicable reason, he is actually giving Nylander LESS ice time in the playoffs despite the fact that he is our top point producer per minutes played and Nylander is leading the team in that category for the second playoffs in a row and he's doing it without any other star players on his line.

Time to get your head out of your ass Sheldon, tomorrow night might be your last chance so wake the f*** up!!

 

[Gary Nylund]

Sure if he goes to a market where fans aren’t as knowledgeable. He is what he is, such a frustrating talent.

You're actually doubling down with this nonsense? Knowledgeable indeed. Just wow.

If Nylander had Kadri cahones he’d be a superstar in this league.

If you had a clue, you'd understand that Nylander is in fact playing like a superstar for us so far in these playoffs. But you keep doing you.

 

[Gary Nylund]

If the leafs lose game 7, I look forward to Nylander finally fully flourishing under a new team, and fans that will appreciate him for what he is.

Well, all I can say is that I hope we win tomorrow because I'd like to see Nylander play for us for many more years.

If Nylander had Kadri cahones he’d be a superstar in this league.

If Kadri had half of Nylander's talent, he'd be a superstar in this league.

I was always a huge Kadri fan and he's had a great season but he has also faded hard as of late. He was in the top 5 in the scoring race for much of the season but he almost fell out of the top 20 by the end. Now he is tied for 6th on his own team in playoff scoring with 3 points in 4 games which isn't a lot considering how many that high flying team has scored (team leader has 10 points), you can look up Nylanders stats yourself if you feel like educating yourself a bit.

Seriously, just stop embarrassing yourself already with your hot hot hot Nylander takes.

 

[GojuLeaf]

Nylander is our one player who seems to play better in the playoffs. Marner and Matthews are plying good too but it's just like their regular season play not elevated at all.
Tavares looks old and slow but he is clever enough to get some good looks here and there.
I don't know, for 7.5 million I don't see how anyone can see nylander as a liability.

What's more, there is nothing you will pick up for 7.5 million that will adequately replace him.

 

[Wendelstache]

You're actually doubling down with this nonsense? Knowledgeable indeed. Just wow.


If you had a clue, you'd understand that Nylander is in fact playing like a superstar for us so far in these playoffs. But you keep doing you.

Don't feed the troll.

 

[thestranger102]

Look at Kadri. Laughin at the Leafs now.

Marner makes a shit play that directly leads to a goal against in OT. Crickets. Nylander pulls up on an icing play. Wow I cannot have that shit anywhere near this team!

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Marner also with this half ass fly by where he somehow ends up losing his stick right after he makes a bad giveaway and leads to the goal. But yeah, lets be upset with Nylander. If Nylander was in Marner's shoes for these plays, we wouldnt hear the end of it.

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Maybe marner can hold onto his stick next time. Mans choking again when the pressure is the greatest.

Every player makes mistakes every game. That's not at all the issue with Nylander. With Marner I never have to question his work ethic, his desire to win or his commitment to the team, because it is all very obvious from his play. Marner is a heart and soul player through and through. And yeah, he f***s up sometimes, but you live with it because you know 100% he gave it his best effort. Marner and Nylander are approximately equal in talent but Marner is the far superior player because of his work ethic and heart.

You also have to consider how having a lazy yet talented player effects the team morale. You have guys on the third line working their asses off every shift and then Nylander is just out there coasting half the time. That must rub guys the wrong way.

 

[Peasy]

Every player makes mistakes every game. That's not at all the issue with Nylander. With Marner I never have to question his work ethic, his desire to win or his commitment to the team, because it is all very obvious from his play. Marner is a heart and soul player through and through. And yeah, he f***s up sometimes, but you live with it because you know 100% he gave it his best effort. Marner and Nylander are approximately equal in talent but Marner is the far superior player because of his work ethic and heart.

You also have to consider how having a lazy yet talented player effects the team morale. You have guys on the third line working their asses off every shift and then Nylander is just out there coasting half the time. That must rub guys the wrong way.

Lol go watch Marner's effort on the OT goal. Sad all around. He should have put in some more effort to get the puck back after making a poor pass but instead he just reaches into the dude instead of taking the body and loses his stick so he can't break up the pass. Marner is weak along the boards, always has been. This was just another example of it.

Again, I'll state if this was nylander, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

 

[1specter]

You guys are seriously targeting Nylander after last night? What the f*** is wrong with you guys?

 

[Wendelstache]

Unless you are the biggest hater and Willy is living rent free in your life, Willy's effort in game 6 has no correlation in losing Game 6.

The fact is he almost won us the game tallying 2points putting us 720 seconds away from bouncing Tampa.

 

[1specter]

Every player makes mistakes every game. That's not at all the issue with Nylander. With Marner I never have to question his work ethic, his desire to win or his commitment to the team, because it is all very obvious from his play. Marner is a heart and soul player through and through. And yeah, he f***s up sometimes, but you live with it because you know 100% he gave it his best effort. Marner and Nylander are approximately equal in talent but Marner is the far superior player because of his work ethic and heart.

You also have to consider how having a lazy yet talented player effects the team morale. You have guys on the third line working their asses off every shift and then Nylander is just out there coasting half the time. That must rub guys the wrong way.

Remind me, who was the far more dominant player against the Habs last year? And which of these players has more career 5v5 playoff points?

 

[1specter]

Well, all I can say is that I hope we win tomorrow because I'd like to see Nylander play for us for many more years.


If Kadri had half of Nylander's talent, he'd be a superstar in this league.

I was always a huge Kadri fan and he's had a great season but he has also faded hard as of late. He was in the top 5 in the scoring race for much of the season but he almost fell out of the top 20 by the end. Now he is tied for 6th on his own team in playoff scoring with 3 points in 4 games which isn't a lot considering how many that high flying team has scored (team leader has 10 points), you can look up Nylanders stats yourself if you feel like educating yourself a bit.

Seriously, just stop embarrassing yourself already with your hot hot hot Nylander takes.

Just an FYI, Kadri missed most of the final stretch of the season with a shoulder injury. Look at his games played.

 

[Menzinger]

It’s getting difficult to keep defending his effort at times. You can’t take shifts off.

By most metrics, from eye test to stats he had a great game. I don't think it's particularly reasonable to claim a single play erases that.

Sure if he goes to a market where fans aren’t as knowledgeable. He is what he is, such a frustrating talent.

People said the same stuff about Kessel all the time, and he helped lead a team to two cups.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Both Mitch and Willy did not give their bodies up for team last night .. bottom line leaders lead and followers follow .. if you want to lead you have to be prepared to give up everything .. you have to go to a wall and through it if required .. and you may get hurt .. these 2 guys did not give their everything to team and that is why hockey guys get irritated .. these 2 guys have serious talent in their own unique ways but may be lacking EYE OF DA TIGER

 

[Gary Nylund]

You guys are seriously targeting Nylander after last night? What the f*** is wrong with you guys?

Good question!

Just an FYI, Kadri missed most of the final stretch of the season with a shoulder injury. Look at his games played.

Ah, that explains it. I haven't been paying much attention to other teams lately so I had no idea but that makes sense. Anyhow not important, now that Kadri's not a Maple Leaf I care 100 times less about how he does. Nylander on the other hand, yeah following him very closely.

Both Mitch and Willy did not give their bodies up for team last night .. bottom line leaders lead and followers follow .. if you want to lead you have to be prepared to give up everything .. you have to go to a wall and through it if required .. and you may get hurt .. these 2 guys did not give their everything to team and that is why hockey guys get irritated .. these 2 guys have serious talent in their own unique ways but may be lacking EYE OF DA TIGER

See the post above yours. I get why some people get irritated, hell I get irritated too sometimes at the stuff Nylander dose (or more accurately, the stuff he doesn't do). That said, an intelligent person won't judge people on moments here and there that don't look good, they take a deep breath, take a step back, take in the big picture and anyone that does that will understand that Nylander has been a huge net positive and perhaps even our best player over the last 2 playoffs. Some people have that inspiring "go through the wall" style like Gilmour, Tucker and whoever else while others have a different style of play that's somewhat less inspiring like Kessel, Nylander, Sundin also comes to mind. At the end of the day though it's not style that's the most important thing, it's results and Nylander's results in the playoffs speak for themselves and the same goes for Kessel. Every team has players that have different styles and not everyone has to be an inspiring leader. And believe me, when Nylander snipes a beauty past one of the worlds top goalies, that gives the team a lift every bit as much as one of your "balls to the walls" types laying a hit on someone does, maybe more because goals are pretty damn important after all.

Cliff notes: I don't give a shit about style, I just want to win.

 

[themilosh]

Nylander gets 2 assists, is plus 2 and he has a play where he's supposed to race another player for an icing, the announcer noticed and condemned him without providing anything like his TOI prior to the icing. I wonder why the announcer didn't provide background info because he very obviously figured it was Nylander being Nylander, the rest of the game meant nothing to him.

I think Nylander has been TO's best forward for the last 4 games, he was TO's best forward during the previous playoffs, yet it's not enough?

I think TO's crappiest forward is Kerfoot, his mistakes are always gigantic, he skates forever but doesn't accomplish much unless he plays with a Nylander type, effort doesn't equate success, results do.

As a Habs fan i concur. Leafs would be crazy to trade him. So he's not a power winger, there are 4 lines - muck it up with the bottom 6..

We can give you Anderson if thats the big power you want.

Willy on the wing with Wright would be beautiful.

Trade deadline next year.. we need 1 more tank2.0..

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Good question!


Ah, that explains it. I haven't been paying much attention to other teams lately so I had no idea but that makes sense. Anyhow not important, now that Kadri's not a Maple Leaf I care 100 times less about how he does. Nylander on the other hand, yeah following him very closely.


See the post above yours. I get why some people get irritated, hell I get irritated too sometimes at the stuff Nylander dose (or more accurately, the stuff he doesn't do). That said, an intelligent person won't judge people on moments here and there that don't look good, they take a deep breath, take a step back, take in the big picture and anyone that does that will understand that Nylander has been a huge net positive and perhaps even our best player over the last 2 playoffs. Some people have that inspiring "go through the wall" style like Gilmour, Tucker and whoever else while others have a different style of play that's somewhat less inspiring like Kessel, Nylander, Sundin also comes to mind. At the end of the day though it's not style that's the most important thing, it's results and Nylander's results in the playoffs speak for themselves and the same goes for Kessel. Every team has players that have different styles and not everyone has to be an inspiring leader. And believe me, when Nylander snipes a beauty past one of the worlds top goalies, that gives the team a lift every bit as much as one of your "balls to the walls" types laying a hit on someone does, maybe more because goals are pretty damn important after all.

Cliff notes: I don't give a shit about style, I just want to win.

That's my point leaders lead and followers follow .. leaders do whatever it takes to win .. score a goal fine .. take a big hit fine .. make a beauty saucer pass fine .. come backcheck hard and make it hard for your man to play offense fine .. lay a hit fine .. block a shot fine .. do whatever it takes to win .. kinda like Marchand (although guy is a jerk) .. always make da right play no matter what all da time .. you can't have specialist passengers who have limited times in which they do da right thing .. do da right thing all da time on every shift in da playoffs .. winners win losers lose