NBA Will Kawhi Leonard re-sign with the Toronto Raptors?

[Terry Yake]

RDA got doxxed after people found out he's most likely jeanie buss's nephew

if i remember correctly it was him who called horford to philly like a week or two ago

 

[The Night King]

RDA got doxxed after people found out he's most likely jeanie buss's nephew

if i remember correctly it was him who called horford to philly like a week or two ago

Yeah, he also said the Wizards and Hawks would be involved in the AD trade.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

so a guy who is getting direct information from people at AEG is wrong. got it

i'm talking on the court. guy dominates the EC for nearly a decade and then leaves to join a team that's been crap for the majority of this decade and (at the time) was filled with a bunch of kids. you even mentioned the hollywood thing. that's the main reason he signed with the lakers. now with AD and possibly kawhi on the way you really think he's going to try his hardest to outshine them?

I never said that at all, but that's besides the point.

As for the last part, absolutely. That's who he is. You've basically admitted he hasn't changed off court, why would he have changed on it? He's a guy who truly believes he's the greatest basketball player of all time, as he should, there is zero chance he's going to volunteer to be the third option who always gets squeezed out on these teams.

Your reasoning doesn't even seem to make remote sense, and more importantly, what during this absolute circus of his first year in LA would indicate he's changed in any way?

 

[Terry Yake]

I never said that at all, but that's besides the point.

As for the last part, absolutely. That's who he is. You've basically admitted he hasn't changed off court, why would he have changed on it? He's a guy who truly believes he's the greatest basketball player of all time, as he should, there is zero chance he's going to volunteer to be the third option who always gets squeezed out on these teams.

Your reasoning doesn't even seem to make remote sense, and more importantly, what during this absolute circus of his first year in LA would indicate he's changed in any way?

"uhhhhh no its not lol." guess you forget what you write

he's obviously content with what he's accomplished on the court, hence signing with the lakers to kickstart his hollywood career. and i never said anything about lebron off the court aside from him signing in LA for the reason i just listed. you're the one who keeps bringing that up.

and how did anything lebron do last season equate to him "needing the spotlight"? he missed a bunch of games with an injury and then there was the whole AD trade drama. the only comments i recall him making publicly were in regards to the team's lack of urgency after a late season loss. hardly anything to write home about. like i said, with AD and kawhi potentially on the same team coupled with his advanced age and mileage, it wouldn't come as any surprise to see him become more of a facilitator to give AD and kawhi more room

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

"uhhhhh no its not lol." guess you forget what you write

he's obviously content with what he's accomplished on the court, hence signing with the lakers to kickstart his hollywood career. and i never said anything about lebron off the court aside from him signing in LA for the reason i just listed. you're the one who keeps bringing that up.

and how did anything lebron do last season equate to him "needing the spotlight"? he missed a bunch of games with an injury and then there was the whole AD trade drama. the only comments i recall him making publicly were in regards to the team's lack of urgency after a late season loss. hardly anything to write home about. like i said, with AD and kawhi potentially on the same team coupled with his advanced age and mileage, it wouldn't come as any surprise to see him become more of a facilitator to give AD and kawhi more room

No I read it just perfectly. I said it wasn't a fact, it isn't. It's a guy on the internet, it's a rumor at best. I guess the issue might be that you don't know what a fact is?

Anyway, he signed in LA knowing full well this was his plan and is playing a major part in orchestrating it. That's not a guy who's content with his accomplishments, that's a guy who wants to win, as he should. He's also, again, a guy who thinks he's the greatest player of all time, also as he should. Connecting the dots yet? Maybe some of the other things would've made the risk worth it but there was no intention of going there to be a 6th seed.

There is nothing from last year that suggests he's changed one bit. Making the headlines during the sizable chunk of time he missed, pretty much openly pushing for his teammates to be traded, yet another coaching controversy, all par for the course. You have yet to show one shred of evidence that the guy is changed other than a very faulty theory that he's satisfied with three rings.

 

[Terry Yake]

No I read it just perfectly. I said it wasn't a fact, it isn't. It's a guy on the internet, it's a rumor at best. I guess the issue might be that you don't know what a fact is?

Anyway, he signed in LA knowing full well this was his plan and is playing a major part in orchestrating it. That's not a guy who's content with his accomplishments, that's a guy who wants to win, as he should. He's also, again, a guy who thinks he's the greatest player of all time, also as he should. Connecting the dots yet? Maybe some of the other things would've made the risk worth it but there was no intention of going there to be a 6th seed.

There is nothing from last year that suggests he's changed one bit. Making the headlines during the sizable chunk of time he missed, pretty much openly pushing for his teammates to be traded, yet another coaching controversy, all par for the course. You have yet to show one shred of evidence that the guy is changed other than a very faulty theory that he's satisfied with three rings.

mmmmm no i wouldn't say something coming from AEG people is a rumor

-ok you mention he made headlines. obviously he's going to make headlines regardless, he's lebron.
-you mention he openly pushed for teammates to be traded. now that's a rumor
-coaching controversy? when was there any tension between walton and lebron? again a rumor

you think he would've demanded a trade had they not made the deal for AD? obviously he wants to win but this isn't cleveland where lebron was the GM, coach, and player

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

mmmmm no i wouldn't say something coming from AEG people is a rumor

-ok you mention he made headlines. obviously he's going to make headlines regardless, he's lebron.
-you mention he openly pushed for teammates to be traded. now that's a rumor
-coaching controversy? when was there any tension between walton and lebron? again a rumor

you think he would've demanded a trade had they not made the deal for AD? obviously he wants to win but this isn't cleveland where lebron was the GM, coach, and player

Of course you wouldn't lol

And yeah, they're all rumors, I wasn't so spaced out to say I know they happened for a fact. So yeah, rumors, and rampant ones too. The coaching saga involving two of his choices and setting up for a Blatt-Lue situation is particularly telling. And they're all reported fairly widely by people much more reputable than some guy on the internet. And again, I'm not disputing any of what that guy said, just you saying you knew it for a fact.

And no, I doubt he'd demand out, because like I said, other factors made the risk tolerable. But this was still the plan and that completely flies in the face of your claim that he's content. You also should note that if the plan succeeds the entire Lakers lineup, save for maybe Kuzma, will be hand picked by the guy. That sounds a lot like Cleveland.

 

[Terry Yake]

Of course you wouldn't lol

And yeah, they're all rumors, I wasn't so spaced out to say I know they happened for a fact. So yeah, rumors, and rampant ones too. The coaching saga involving two of his choices and setting up for a Blatt-Lue situation is particularly telling. And they're all reported fairly widely by people much more reputable than some guy on the internet. And again, I'm not disputing any of what that guy said, just you saying you knew it for a fact.

And no, I doubt he'd demand out, because like I said, other factors made the risk tolerable. But this was still the plan and that completely flies in the face of your claim that he's content. You also should note that if the plan succeeds the entire Lakers lineup, save for maybe Kuzma, will be hand picked by the guy. That sounds a lot like Cleveland.

who's more reputable than AEG people? you know, the people who actually own part of the team

if lebron was still demanding the spotlight and running the show you think they would've passed on lue for vogel? and wait, you knew this was the lakers plan? woj is that you?

handpicked by lebron? huh? any GM would trade for AD and sign kawhi if they could. not sure what you're trying to claim by that comment

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

who's more reputable than AEG people? you know, the people who actually own part of the team

if lebron was still demanding the spotlight and running the show you think they would've passed on lue for vogel? and wait, you knew this was the lakers plan? woj is that you?

handpicked by lebron? huh? any GM would trade for AD and sign kawhi if they could. not sure what you're trying to claim by that comment

They're not even the ones posting this stuff, they're the alleged sources. How is this so hard lol?

The Lakers didn't pass on Lue for Vogel, he passed on them(because they wouldn't commit past LeBrons tenure, which should be a major red flag of what this is about) and they had to scramble. I don't have to be Woj to follow basic reports instead of being fairly clueless.

I was also talking more about the bench, where it'll mostly be filled by LeBron. It's the circumstances more than anything but it is funny that he will have built this team more than anyone.

 

[BrassCompels]

Leonard is gone.

In the eyes of the NBA pro’s, Toronto, and Canada in general is an embarrassing place to play.

 

[HockeyThoughts]

Leonard is gone.

In the eyes of the NBA pro’s, Toronto, and Canada in general is an embarrassing place to play.

Unless I missed it there hasn't been an official announcement - so please stopping spouting this as official.

 

[Hammettf2b]

Unless I missed it there hasn't been an official announcement - so please stopping spouting this garbage.

Or you know, it could just be his opinion.

 

[BrassCompels]

Unless I missed it there hasn't been an official announcement - so please stopping spouting this garbage.

We’re speculating within reasonable grounds, it’s not garbage. Most reputable sources say Kahwi is most likely going to the Lakers.

Playing in Los Angeles (flashy city; storied franchise) and living in Cali (beautiful weather), is way more desirable than Toronto (ordinary city), and living in Canada (cold 7-8 months of the year).

 

[Terry Yake]

this **** is gonna drag out until later this week it seems like

if he doesn't sign with the lakers i'd at least be glad he prevented them from throwing money at scrubs like they did with mozgov and deng a few years ago. seems like the better FA's that are still unsigned like cousins are just waiting for kawhi to decide

 

[HockeyThoughts]

We’re speculating within reasonable grounds, it’s not garbage. Most reputable sources say Kahwi is most likely going to the Lakers.

Playing in Los Angeles (flashy city; storied franchise) and living in Cali (beautiful weather), is way more desirable than Toronto (ordinary city), and living in Canada (cold 7-8 months of the year).

Lol have you ever even been to Toronto? It is in no way an "ordinary city". The city is consistently ranked one of the most livable cities in the world.

Like I said stop spewing nonsense as fact about the city, team and the player.

 

[Reality Check]

Lol have you ever even been to Toronto? It is in no way an "ordinary city". The city is consistently ranked one of the most livable cities in the world.

Like I said stop spewing nonsense as fact about the city, team and the player.

That explains why the Raptors and Blue Jays have always been a destination for free agents

 

[HockeyThoughts]

That explains why the Raptors and Blue Jays have always been a destination for free agents

Yup has nothing to do with the teams' ineptitude for the past decade + (before our respective recent resurgances).

Just the city!

 

[Peiskos]

We’re speculating within reasonable grounds, it’s not garbage. Most reputable sources say Kahwi is most likely going to the Lakers.

Playing in Los Angeles (flashy city; storied franchise) and living in Cali (beautiful weather), is way more desirable than Toronto (ordinary city), and living in Canada (cold 7-8 months of the year).

How can you possibly describe Toronto as “an ordinary city”? your comments reeks of someone who has done precisely zero traveling. There is no other city like Toronto anywhere in the world, the unique feel it has.

You speak of the 3rd largest city in North America behind only Mexico City, NYC and L.A as if it’s some kind of small town in rural Nunavut ffs, get a clue if you want to be taken seriously with your commentary.

With regards to his legacy playing in Toronto is more of a legacy than if he went to the Lakers.

 

[HockeyThoughts]

How can you possibly describe Toronto as “an ordinary city”? your comments reeks of someone who has done precisely zero traveling. There is no other city like Toronto anywhere in the world, the unique feel it has.

You speak of the 3rd largest city in North America behind only Mexico City, NYC and L.A as if it’s some kind of small town in rural Nunavut ffs, get a clue if you want to be taken seriously with your commentary.

With regards to his legacy playing in Toronto is more of a legacy than if he went to the Lakers.

He came onto the Toronto board with this same stupidity.

Someone pointed out that he joined last week and he has been posting on the Canadiens forum before starting with this nonsense.

He's a troll - plain and simple.

 

[Neutrinos]

That explains why the Raptors and Blue Jays have always been a destination for free agents

Jack Morris
Dave Winfield
Paul Molitor
Roger Clemens

During their heyday, the Blue Jays regularly signed Hall of Fame talent

 

[Reality Check]

Jack Morris
Dave Winfield
Paul Molitor
Roger Clemens

During their heyday, the Blue Jays regularly signed Hall of Fame talent

1997 wasn't during the Blue Jays heyday. But it was 22 years ago and he only lasted their two seasons before requesting a trade elsewhere. The other three is now more than 25 years ago.

1997 was also a time when the New York Knicks were relevant in the NBA.

 

[Reality Check]

Yup has nothing to do with the teams' ineptitude for the past decade + (before our respective recent resurgances).

Just the city!

The Raptors have won their division for the past SIX years

What a bunch of bums

 

[HockeyThoughts]

The Raptors have won their division for the past SIX years

What a bunch of bums

Reading isn't your strong suit eh?

"..before our respective resurgances.."

We just won the Championship and we are pushing up against the cap - I don't think we need to worry about top FAs at the moment lol

 

[Bakayoko Ono]

At this point this guy is just being a jerk, holding these teams hostage. Make a decision, dude.

 

[HockeyThoughts]

At this point this guy is just being a jerk, holding these teams hostage. Make a decision, dude.

It's been one day of FA lol. He's doing exactly what he said he would do, meet with all the teams and make an informed decision. It's the media that has no patience.