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Prospect Info: Wild Prospect Thread 2023-2024

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Digitalbooya said:
#3 will be whoever our 1st round draft pick is for the 2024 draft. My hope is someone like Levshunov.
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Assuming we end up with a top 10 pick. If we end up doing what we do every year and getting a pick around 20 or so, it should be close.
 
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Digitalbooya said:
Wallstedt in net again tonight versus Rockford :)


Looks like Spacek is playing tonight, so nothing serious for the injury
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Bankier pretty visible so far. A couple of drop passes to teasdale in tight that wouldve been tough to finish but good opportunities. One other drop pass just past the blueline to no one in particular though. Also nicely got his stick on a cross ice in the defensive zone - with this plus the one-timer last night he continues to show high-end hand/eye coordination imo.
 
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Dr Jan Itor said:
Wallstedt gave up 2? WTF.
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The second one was like a no chance one-timer to the far corner over the glove iirc. Lambos went net front to that side of the goal, presumably thinking there was a rockford player behind him or something when he should have been on this guy imo. Awareness is a persisting problem with Lambos from when I've seen him in OHL and training camp/preseason games. Concerning bc this was a large part of Addison's downfall imo.

The first one was described by announcer as flukey - riding up the stick of o'rourke but i couldnt see that. To me it looked like the rockford just wired a great shot from a tough angle but the camera resolution isnt great so idk.
 
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Heidt follows up his 5 assist night with two goals in the 1st - guess he got tired of passing the puck. While I do agree with those who say that you have to take Junior stats with a grain of salt... damn, he's tearing it up.
He's not flashy, but is very quick to see passing lanes. Nice hands. Seems to have decent speed, also.

Parascak(2024 draft)is playing on a line with him again. He has to be getting consideration as a mid 1st rounder. He's on pace for about 100 points, and leads all WHL rookies in scoring.
 
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Heidt follows up his 5 assist night with two goals in the 1st - guess he got tired of passing the puck. While I do agree with those who say that you have to take Junior stats with a grain of salt... damn, he's tearing it up.
He's not flashy, but is very quick to see passing lanes. Nice hands. Seems to have decent speed, also.

Parascak(2024 draft)is playing on a line with him again. He has to be getting consideration as a mid 1st rounder. He's on pace for about 100 points, and leads all WHL rookies in scoring.
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There doesn't appear to be any semblance of defense played at that level. Looking at the two highlights, I can take away that Heidt has a good shot and good offensive awareness. It's great that he can execute those plays, but they will be few and far between the higher the level of hockey he plays. I'd like to know if he can generate those against college, AHL or NHL level players.
 
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Well that was a very nasty assist for Heidt there after dangling two D men and dropping it back to the wide open man.

This level of hockey is beneath him, I noticed that he had two good defensive effort plays in this game, but otherwise wasn't even in the frame, and he didn't really need to be with how quick his team transitioned it out. Nothing left to learn here, he's confident, but he needs an environment that will challenge him and provide real consequences for mistakes, that's where learning and development comes from IMO.
 
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Just to beat a dead horse Lambo was pretty responsible for the third goal too. Rockford player slowly glided across the slot to an area where he could receive a pass from the rockford player behind the net and buried a quick wrister. Lambo was at goal mouth and if he'd made a read on it, could have tied the guy up or failing that disrupted the pass from the guy behind the net. Could've been better communication by everyone on the ice about what was happening i suppose too. Lambo did seem particularly pissed off after that one.

I suppose you could say this about a lot of players but kinda funny how Lambos' weakness (awareness, hockey smarts, whatever you want to call it) is Bankier's strength and Bankier's weakness (skating) is Lambos' strength. It wasnt consequential and im not any kind of judge of skating mechanics but there was a moment toward the end of a shift where bankier's skating.. idk how to describe it but just looked like he was really laboring and working inefficiently to cover ice.

Otherwise thought Masters, O'Rourke, and Spacek all looked good or at least fine. Simon Johannson gets burned a lot but made a couple of good plays too.

Bankier really didnt get a lot of ice time. I have to believe it was pre-determined he would only get so much time to ease him in (particularly on a backtoback) or something bc his play demanded more. I guess it might also just simply be that his conditioning isnt where it needs to be yet to play more minutes.
 
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Digitalbooya said:
There doesn't appear to be any semblance of defense played at that level. Looking at the two highlights, I can take away that Heidt has a good shot and good offensive awareness. It's great that he can execute those plays, but they will be few and far between the higher the level of hockey he plays. I'd like to know if he can generate those against college, AHL or NHL level players.
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You can say the same thing about any prospect. There are always questions about whether any prospect can bring his game to the next level, be it CHL, Euro Juniors, NCAA, AHL, SHL, KHL, etc. A CHL player will never be able to play NCAA due to eligibility, so that point is moot.

Heidt is scoring at a ridiculously high level for a D+1 player, and it's not like he has any size, strength, or skating issues. If you look at his on ice awareness, he has MiG/Rossi levels of vision. Always seems to know where his wingers are, and is able to find him. Funk is feasting on playing with him, as is Perascak. He can easily end up being 6', 190- he's 5'11' 180+ right now. He's outscoring Nic Petan by a good margin when he had his great D+1 WHL season, while being significantly bigger, and has a 57% FO to boot.
 
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You can say the same thing about any prospect. There are always questions about whether any prospect can bring his game to the next level, be it CHL, Euro Juniors, NCAA, AHL, SHL, KHL, etc. A CHL player will never be able to play NCAA due to eligibility, so that point is moot.

Heidt is scoring at a ridiculously high level for a D+1 player, and it's not like he has any size, strength, or skating issues. If you look at his on ice awareness, he has MiG/Rossi levels of vision. Always seems to know where his wingers are, and is able to find him. Funk is feasting on playing with him, as is Perascak. He can easily end up being 6', 190- he's 5'11' 180+ right now. He's outscoring Nic Petan by a good margin when he had his great D+1 WHL season, while being significantly bigger, and has a 57% FO to boot.
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My point is college level players wouldn’t allow crap like this:



If 6 and 44 played for the gophers, their asses would sitting on the bench.



This one, three defenders barely try to stop the guy before Heidt gets the wrap around goal.

I’m not sure how I’m learning anything from these plays.

This is a play that I see translating to higher levels:
 
Again, if you are going to criticize Heidt, then you have to criticize virtually every junior prospect ever. Let's just not pretend that college players come out fully formed... for every Faber or Parise there a ton of Kunin's , Sam Hentges, and Nick Swaneys.

It's kind of funny that when we get a sniff of a prospect who is showing elite offensive ability there are complaints about his backchecking. Maybe we should rehire Mike Yeo and coach all that creativity out of him.
 
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Again, if you are going to criticize Heidt, then you have to criticize virtually every junior prospect ever. Let's just not pretend that college players come out fully formed... for every Faber or Parise there a ton of Kunin's , Sam Hentges, and Nick Swaneys.

It's kind of funny that when we get a sniff of a prospect who is showing elite offensive ability there are complaints about his backchecking. Maybe we should rehire Mike Yeo and coach all that creativity out of him.
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I get that, which is Why I said you gotta like the skill on display...

That's why he'll have an adjustment period.
 
57special said:
Again, if you are going to criticize Heidt, then you have to criticize virtually every junior prospect ever. Let's just not pretend that college players come out fully formed... for every Faber or Parise there a ton of Kunin's , Sam Hentges, and Nick Swaneys.

It's kind of funny that when we get a sniff of a prospect who is showing elite offensive ability there are complaints about his backchecking. Maybe we should rehire Mike Yeo and coach all that creativity out of him.
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That is not what was said.

Edit: What was said is that the defenses guarding him have been terrible. Terrible effort. Terrible positioning. Your run of the mill college player gets benched playing that piss poor of defense. Again, talking about the opposition defense, not Heidt's.
 
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He's playing where he's playing. The CHL is lesser competition than the NCAA. We can only ask him to do his best where he is.
 
TaLoN said:
He's playing where he's playing. The CHL is lesser competition than the NCAA. We can only ask him to do his best where he is.
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I agree with this. It's much better to be doing this well versus not. It's clear he needs higher competition.

If he returns to the CHL next season then what's the point of even playing? He needs to find a better league. Rossi was going to play in an overseas men's league after he lead the OHL in scoring. If he's not AHL eligible, then he either needs to be in the NHL or a men's league somewhere outside of NA.
 
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Digitalbooya said:
I agree with this. It's much better to be doing this well versus not. It's clear he needs higher competition.

If he returns to the CHL next season then what's the point of even playing? He needs to find a better league. Rossi was going to play in an overseas men's league after he lead the OHL in scoring. If he's not AHL eligible, then he either needs to be in the NHL or a men's league somewhere outside of NA.
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I think it was Matthews who played in the swiss league, and he did well after that.
 
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