Prospect Info: Wild Prospect Thread 2022-23
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The Wild should sign Yurov (contract permitting) and bring him to the AHL next year if that’s the play time he is getting.
Minnewildsota
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I believe his contract is up this year so the Wild SHOULD be permitted to sign him
Wasted Talent
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That's assuming Yurov doesn't cave and sign an extension to get more minutes.
Minnewildsota
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Correct. It's certainly possibly he goes that route. Was merely commenting that the Wild have the ability to sign him after this year is over.
Agreed. At that point you send him down, but i've forgotten how far away their VHL club is. Still, having him play that little is flat out bad for development, and not really good for the team, either, IMO. You want all your guys to buy in, even the 4th liners, but if you are playing less than a minute it's impossible to.
If he's that bad that he doesn't deserve any playing time, then he definitely needs to be sent down.
I don't think he scored any points today, but I've liked what I've seen of Petrovsky. US goalie made a really nice save when he got in all alone on him. Fast player, with some offense.
Peart- unnoticeable, which isn't necessarily bad, in a bad game like the last one.
Bankier - OK...4th line guy on the loaded Canadian team.
Peart- unnoticeable, which isn't necessarily bad, in a bad game like the last one.
Bankier - OK...4th line guy on the loaded Canadian team.
He's played a few games for their MHL team this year. Can he be sent to their VHL team as a 19yo? (I have no clue as the KHL minor league rules).
Me neither, but ya, i could see him being sent to the MHL as an alternative. I sure hope he doesn't re-sign with his team, and signs with the Wild instead. They would want him to sign for at least two or three years. Alternatively, if he is more comfortable in Europe, he could sign here and be loaned back to a euro league for the year.
Yurov would automatically be Iowa's top W prospect as soon as he comes over, I think?
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I don't see how Army and the Wild can do any worse than his present team. He has done very well in developing prospects like Shaw, Addison, and Dewar- maybe a bit of credit is due? Playing on a regular line getting top TOI, and knowing that he will get the chance to move up to the big team if he plays well doesn't sound that bad.
What the KHL is doing to him right now sounds downright stupid. Young men need to play.
Circulartheory
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Spacek is looking great - tons of poise, moves the puck quickly, and plays at a high pace. Makes smart choices and battles for the puck - and while he isn't big, he's bigger than Addison at 6'0". Really excited about the kid.
Dr Jan Itor
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Jbcraig1883
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I liked him at the WJC held in the summer but he looks a little quicker with the puck this go around. Very solid play.
Shaw and Dewar aren't high offensive players; in fact there was a post about how Dewar had to change his game from being a poor man's Bouchard to a gritty third line/fourth line player. I'm curious to see how Army and the Wild do with some high offensive players as they haven't developed any top 6 forwards.
Beckman is mediocre and the only reason he's up is due to the multiple injuries. Walker is a 24 year old rookie. Rossi is plodding. I guess Boldy is one that they developed, albeit briefly.
They've had:
Firstov, Boudarias, Khovanov (though a lot of that was on him), Giroux, Hentges - actually, it's crazy to me how ineffective Minnesota's drafts have been.
2018 - all but Dewar are busts
2017 - all but Shaw are busts (though Fletcher traded away their top two picks)
2016 - all but Duhaime are busts
So, you got three 3rd/4th line guys with 18 guys?
2019 has Boldy, but they lost Firstov and Guskov, Warren and Nesterenko aren't signed, Lindberg left, Beckman looks lost. 2020 has Novak (if he recovers) and Rossi for forwards but then Hunt and O'Reilly on defense. Khusnutsdinov is so far away. It's hard to tell.
Top 6 Russian player that was supposed to be an offensive winger that didn't really adjust to the NHL.
Really pick any Russian lately. Podkolzin has been a disappointment, Kratsov, Denisenko
Rather have Yurov play in the KHL.
Dr Jan Itor
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16 out of the 18 players were 3rd round picks or later. What is your expected hit rate for top 6/top 4 players from those picks?
Circulartheory
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Very torn on Ohgren - he plays the right way, plays a responsible game, showing he can play center and play in all situations. But when he was drafted, I was really hoping for a Landeskog-lite - I've been watching for tenacity, tons of pressure on the forecheck, and willingness to shoot; all which seem to be lacking.
I'm pretty bad with using comparisons but I get the feel of a Charlie Coyle - physically mature, center/wing versatile, plays smart, above-average skills, but just lacks that extra step in pace to elevate his game. But I'm torn because that technically nothing wrong with that but it feels like he might keep you wanting more.
Interesting to see if he'll take the next few years to assert himself more physically so that he can develop into more of a driving factor (whether its a scoring line or a GREEF like line) instead of just being the third wheel moving up and down the lineup.
I'm pretty bad with using comparisons but I get the feel of a Charlie Coyle - physically mature, center/wing versatile, plays smart, above-average skills, but just lacks that extra step in pace to elevate his game. But I'm torn because that technically nothing wrong with that but it feels like he might keep you wanting more.
Interesting to see if he'll take the next few years to assert himself more physically so that he can develop into more of a driving factor (whether its a scoring line or a GREEF like line) instead of just being the third wheel moving up and down the lineup.
I'd expect them to contribute to the AHL team at least, especially with how Hentges, Giroux and Boudarias finished their careers in the respective leagues.
If you think that you can only get top 6/top 4 players from the top 60 picks, Minnesota hasn't done a great job of that:
2nd round picks:
2017/2018 none
2019 - Firstov, Jones (busts)
2020 - Khusnutdinov, O'Rourke
2021 - Peart
So out of all the second round picks that Minnesota has made in the past 5 years, Khusnutdinov is the only one that may end up being a top 6 guy. Which is why taking Peart was even more insane.
2016-Kunin
2018- McBain
So that is 5 NHL players out of 3 draft years. That is really good considering MN only had 2 total 1st and 2nd round picks.
FJ (2018 1st) was the only bust, although he is having a nice year in the SHL so maybe he will turn into a NHL player? The 2018 draft class is really just starting to get their feet wet in the NHL. SJ and Hentges (in their 1st AHL season) still have a chance to turn into something, so I'm not completely writing them off yet.
The AHL coaching staff is developing the FWDs just fine by turning out NHLers. Guys like Shaw and Dewar wouldn't have sniffed the NHL if they hadn't changed their game/playstyle. They needed to add other elements to their game besides just having a mediocre skill set (by NHL standards).
The AHL team also hasn't had much for talent/skill to work with, Rossi is about it for any extended timeframe. Right now Rossi is lacking the edge/drive that Dewar and Shaw have. Players have to add more than just scoring to the roster. Scoring is great when it's there, but if/when it dries up there isn't any reason to have them in the lineup (Donato/Pitlick).
I wonder how much of that is just the league and/or team systems that he plays in? The bigger ice (in general) just seems to me to just have more positional play than physical play.
I do think AHL time will do him good, just to get acclimated to the NA game. The AHL coaching staff seems to do a good job of teaching/instilling the qualities you mentioned into players. He already plays the responsible 2-way game so it's mostly just adding onto that, not a having to completely re-learn how to play.
It's up to the player to take that teaching to heart and make adjustments to his game. Not all of the players can/will (Khovanov, Sokolov) make those adjustments. Greenway is still figuring these things out, and it took JEE a few seasons to figure things out. So it's not quick/simple by any means.
Dr Jan Itor
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Kunin isn't on the team and McBain isn't on the team either.
But the AHL team doesn't have the talent, because they didn't draft the talent. This team has been devoid of scoring. The only one that has done damage was Kaprizov. JEE is decent, but yeah. After Kaprizov, who is the next best forward Minnesota drafted in the past 5 years that can score?
Just because they aren't on the team doesn't mean they are busts.
Boldy seems to be doing okay at scoring.
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