If he was ever realistically available probably the time was when Sandin's stock was higher. I'm not entirely sure what the Yotes are even trying to do with that organization.
Players get paid for adding value and impact to your team. They have done that, and Matthews/Marner have played very well together. Nothing guarantees playoff series wins.
It would be pricey, and not without risk, and maybe not the right move. We're in a bit of a jam.
Care to point out which of Marners 8 powerplay points were him driving the line? His season points are fine and dandy but playoffs are where it counts.Imagine actually thinking that one of the best forwards and playmakers in the entire league can't "drive a line". SMH.
I mean getting a shot in a game 7 game when playing 24 minutes of hockey would certainly increase one's odds of winning a series.
Tavares first year I'm sure he came in with lots of adrenalin, also a captaincy up for grabs..... but then why was Marner and Tavares split up the next year?
In game 7, Marner had an assist, 2 hits, a takeaway, a shot block, and he helped tilt the ice considerably while he was on the ice at ES, with 90% of the shot attempts, 91% of the shots, 94% of the scoring chances, 83% of the high danger chances, and 86% of the expected goals. Marner is far, far, far from the reason we lost game 7 or the series.
Matthews-Marner together generated 5.13 GF/60. Matthews without Marner generated 3.39 GF/60.
There's more to evaluating GMs and coaches than exclusively playoff series wins and losses with zero context.
Lou delivered 0/2 first-round/ play-in round wins
What ever amount of twisting, turning and and distorting of facts that occurs the one constant that remains is lack of success.
Maybe instead of all that alphabet and expected number soup he could have scored a goal or 2 we would have won…….thats what I expect for his 11 million.
100% true. All the rest is meaningless excuses
If you want to move Rielly for a real #1 then why target Chychrun?
I watch him play and know what he's all about.
Marner helped create a lot of offense and goals during the playoffs - even scoring some himself - but there's no point in going through every playoff goal again when you've already made up your mind that literally everything that happens while Marner is on the ice is either bad or because of somebody else. When Marner gets an assist, it's only an assist - why he no score goal? When Marner scores a goal, it was set up because of the other guy. When Marner makes a quality play that generates an offensive chance but doesn't get credited with a point, it doesn't matter because he didn't get a point. When Marner makes a nice defensive play, it was actually because of the goalie or defenseman and it's only defense - we can pay scrubs for that, right? When Marner gets points, hits, blocked shots, takeaways, and considerably tilts the ice in every way in a game, it doesn't matter because he didn't personally get a shot that one time.
Literally only one of those 9 things I named was an "expected number", and whether you want to acknowledge it or not, expected goals are a valuable metric.
Long term, there's still more to evaluating GMs and coaches than looking exclusively at playoff series wins and losses with zero context. While that is a result that we as fans highly value, that is just one of many types of results, and one that is usually not actually very representative of much. It can get an organization into a lot of trouble if they put too much stock into it. For example, the likes of Vancouver, Montreal, Islanders, etc. held onto bad, destructive GMs and made counterproductive moves for the health of their franchise because they overemphasized a playoff run instead of looking at the bigger picture, where their franchise was at, and how those individuals were actually doing at their job. 3 and 4 years is also not long-term.
What in your opinion were the three main factors causing the loss this year to Tampa
Some of the main ones that come to mind are horrible officiating (especially in crucial moments), a sub-par performance from our 4th line, and a sub-par performance from Campbell.
I should have said 4
I'm not sure what you mean by "3rd leaf on ice reason", but if I had to pinpoint another disappointing performance by a Leaf player, it would probably be Lyubushkin.
..... another postseason of bad luck for Marner??
Not sure what you even mean. He had a good postseason in pretty much every way.
The evidence is all around you, and I've noted plenty of it. You just don't want to accept it, and have randomly turned to trying to dismiss his playoff points. I've already seen your recent posts misrepresenting and downplaying each of his playoff points and trying to attribute them to others, and we've personally done this type of thing countless times. Every time, you make up some excuse for why you're unwilling to give Marner his proper credit, or deflect away to some other thing that you don't like about him, or bring up some obscure fact or record - like that he didn't get a shot in 1 of the 7 games, as if that's relevant at all. So no, I'm not that interested in relitigating each playoff point he got so that you can just say nuh uh and try and attribute everything to everybody else. It's a waste of time.
