Hockeyholic
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Because he says what is on his mind and people don't like the truth.
Impressed the heck out everyone when his Jackets took out the Bolts four straight......Priceless watching here in Leaf Nation when his same roster eliminated the leafs in the first round the next season.You should look into the teams that Torts’ CBJ teams lost to in the playoffs and how far they ended up going. Also pretty ridiculous to downplay that 1 series they did win.
Not to mention both the quality of team and his “system” changed quite drastically at times over his time coaching the CBJ, when the team was able to execute in different ways.
He wasn’t a perfect coach in Columbus, and I did question his lineup decision's more than a few times, but, he did more than what should have been expected from him coaching those teams and the fact they were essentially playoff “locks” and made the playoffs every single year they actually should have, not to mention what the team has looked like after he left, says more than enough.
Sure but he also wears out his welcome really fast.
When he came to the Canucks I gave him the benefit of doubt, mainly after hearing him on an interview saying he was driving cross country to come here with his rescue dogs, but his time in Vancouver was too much about him.
Impressed the heck out everyone when his Jackets took out the Bolts four straight......Priceless watching here in Leaf Nation when his same roster eliminated the leafs in the first round the next season.
Thanks Torts !
But not the Leafs annual play off flop ..... no dismissing that where I live. ha!Ahh, add me to all the Korpisalo haters with forgetting about that.
Of course that was a “play in” round so it can be dismissed when talking Torts’ playoff success.
That can say as much about others as it does him.Sure but he also wears out his welcome really fast.
It's not that he's not popular, polarizing is a better word.
Most fans that dislike him are either fans from rival teams, fans of that one team he specifically called out for being pampered by the league or people who just have a dislike for people who tend to speak their mind.
Regardless of his coaching ability, I will always like Torts for staying true to himself, being a genuinely caring human being and for just being a no nonsense type of coach.
On a personal note , he reminds me of one of my old coaches a lot who on the surface may have been abrasive but once you dug deeper you'd find that there was always purpose behind everything he did and said.
I suppose some don't have the patience for that
type of person and want immediate gratification.
People hate retreads, even when they're great. Torts has a Cup and continued success but people want new coaches who almost always flame out. Quinn with the Rangers, Woodcroft with the Oilers etc. I heard the same as a Panthers fan when they hired Maurice, so many "why would you hire that dinosaur" posts. Maybe because he's good at his job? Fans act like 100% of GMs are idiots when it's closer to 15%.
Why is it that coaches nowadays that enforce discipline with their players and/or don't suck up to the media are considered bad?
Well, if you use the same criteria to every other coach (choosing their last cup as a cut-off date) then you won't find many good coaches. Do you realize that only 6.25% (and it was 6.66% before VGK expansion) make SCF? Doesn't mean that teams which don't make it are complete and utter failures.Because he comes off as a self righteous asshole and his teams have at best gotten to the ECF since 2004?
I have a huge problem with anyone yelling at anybody, especially when they have any form of authority.
Tortorella seems to think yelling = motivating. I disagree.
Time to move on from the dinosaurs.
Yep. Also all coaches, even the best, have a shelf life. It's a fact of all pro sport but especially NHL hockey.Absolutely not this.
He was still squeezing blood from a stone in Columbus in year 5. Probably his most convincing year of coaching.
Yes in some instances the results diminish, but your average coach is already fired by that point, and Torts is still there winning more games than he should. So why is it that people keep bringing up "shelf life" in regards to Torts?
Has there been anything reported indicating he's toxic? Demanding is not necessarily toxic. I think it's important to clarify he's not Babcock or Hartley. He's most certainly stubborn and rigorous but I am not heard he's toxic.Would you like a toxic boss? I wouldn't.
Aaron Portzline did some digging and put together a great Athletic article in 2019 after the Babcock stuff came out.Has there been anything reported indicating he's toxic? Demanding is not necessarily toxic. I think it's important to clarify he's not Babcock or Hartley. He's most certainly stubborn and rigorous but I am not heard he's toxic.
Tortorella declined to be interviewed for this story, but The Athletic contacted several players who played for him during NHL stops with the Tampa Bay Lightning, New York Rangers, Vancouver Canucks and the Blue Jackets.
Some were willing to talk on the record, and others spoke off the record to provide background, but they all delivered essentially the same message:
Tortorella has chastised players in the middle of the dressing room or even on the bench during games, and there were times the confrontations were uncomfortable. They left the rink angry with him on occasion, and they often disagreed with his coaching decisions and/or his approach.
But they also were emphatic: They never witnessed Tortorella crossing the line to being verbally or physically abusive.
Nothing funnier then seeing the young soft little snowflakes hating a coach because he yells and is a big meanyNothing funnier than seeing the geezers here call younger people entitled and spoiled… by coming to the defense of a rich and entitled 65-year-old manbaby.