Why is Boston such a good organization?

[JaegerDice]

See my post on the previous page. The rebuild you're in now and have been in for some time, Boston is able to skip that phase. It's uncommon. You have to be a tremendously good organization to pull that off. Sparing the fans the years of rebuild is something none of us take for granted.

It starts by deciding what a "good" organization is. I think good is being the fave or close to it in any given game you play, for a very long time. It means you're always considered among the best. Boston has been that now for quite some time. I have a lot of appreciation for that.

Most players are typically proud to put on the black and gold. That also stands for a lot.

That’s fine. I’d just argue your excellent organization is a couple years and a game 7 win away from being the San Jose Sharks, and nobody holds them up as a model.

The question is, as an organization, do you want to be ‘good enough’ or do you want to win?

 

[BostonBob]

That’s fine. I’d just argue your excellent organization is a couple years and a game 7 win away from being the San Jose Sharks, and nobody holds them up as a model.

You would definitely lose that argument with most hockey fans .....and not only with the ones that are Bruin fans.

 

[Regal]

That’s fine. I’d just argue your excellent organization is a couple years and a game 7 win away from being the San Jose Sharks, and nobody holds them up as a model.

The question is, as an organization, do you want to be ‘good enough’ or do you want to win?

Eh, Sharks never even made it to a game 7 in the finals though. Bruins were also a game 7 loss away from 2 cups and made the finals another year. I think at that point it’s largely luck of the draw. They were good enough to win in multiple years but didn’t. I don’t think that was ever true of the Sharks, who were typically a more flawed team. They also didn’t manage their decline well.

I’d also say an organization can only do so much to put themselves in the best position to succeed. You can’t exactly bank on getting cores like Crosby/Malkin or Toews/Kane/Keith or Kucherov/Hedman/Vasilevskiy in order to win multiple cups.

 

[TheBeard]

It takes everything going right to win a cup.

It takes an incredible organization top to bottom to remain relevant for so long.

 

[bearcountry17]

That’s fine. I’d just argue your excellent organization is a couple years and a game 7 win away from being the San Jose Sharks, and nobody holds them up as a model.

The question is, as an organization, do you want to be ‘good enough’ or do you want to win?

I will take the Bruins one cup over Chicagos 3 and having to think about what was going on behind the scenes for those wins, thank you.

 

[Sheppy]

Why does everyone seem to think this thread title means "Why is Boston the greatest hockey organization in the history of the game?"

The question is "Why is Boston such a good organization?" Which they are.

 

[theVladiator]

Why does everyone seem to think this thread title means "Why is Boston the greatest hockey organization in the history of the game?"

The question is "Why is Boston such a good organization?" Which they are.

Probably because they took the following question from the original post seriously:

What has Boston figured out that everyone else hasn’t?

The right answer is, of course, "nothing". Nevertheless, most of the posts from Boston fans here tend to point to team culture, which of course other good organizations have as well. Or some other relatively common thing, like finding good players with later picks.

For me personally, with an attempt at finding something that is somewhat unique to Boston, I'd have to say goaltenders. Not sure there is another team that had such long stretch of above average goaltending (Thomas -> Rask -> Ullmark/Swayman).

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Somebody clearly forgot the Wings drafts of that era. I would too, if I could. Hakan Andersson is almost god, but he was just one guy, trying to turn the shit-tide.



I do not think Yzerman needs to be a copy cat, having built a cup winner already elsewhere. Bruins aren't the only highly successful team of an era either. No matter what Bruins fans tell you here, they did not invent winning culture, or good drafting, or great goaltending. What this thread is a great example of, is how good Bruins marketing team is at selling the team to the fans.

Boston fans like me have known what a winning culture is going back to
Bill Russell...yeah I'm old and remember literally Bob Cousy on the Celtics.

 

[Machinehead]

Since their Cup win in 2011, they're getting .930 goaltending at even strength.

Dominik Hasek probably isn't doing that for 12 seasons.

How they've done that is a better question.

 

[Hunter368]

Organizationally IMO they don’t anything outstanding, but they do have great culture and great accountability which I think leads to their success

 

[KillerMillerTime]

That’s fine. I’d just argue your excellent organization is a couple years and a game 7 win away from being the San Jose Sharks, and nobody holds them up as a model.

The question is, as an organization, do you want to be ‘good enough’ or do you want to win?

You can't be serious? Everyone knows there can be only one champion. Literally why ever be a sports fan?

Eh, Sharks never even made it to a game 7 in the finals though. Bruins were also a game 7 loss away from 2 cups and made the finals another year. I think at that point it’s largely luck of the draw. They were good enough to win in multiple years but didn’t. I don’t think that was ever true of the Sharks, who were typically a more flawed team. They also didn’t manage their decline well.

I’d also say an organization can only do so much to put themselves in the best position to succeed. You can’t exactly bank on getting cores like Crosby/Malkin or Toews/Kane/Keith or Kucherov/Hedman/Vasilevskiy in order to win multiple cups.

This right here.

 

[ClydeLee]

You can't be serious? Everyone knows there can be only one champion. Literally why ever be a sports fan?



This right here.

You can be a fan, but there's an effect to not caring anymore when you have a long playoff streak with no success. Like the Atlanta Braves of the 90s got fatigue of not caring anymore.

I'd rather my team not prolong the inevitable keeping a playoff streak alive when it is time to rebuild.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

You can be a fan, but there's an effect to not caring anymore when you have a long playoff streak with no success. Like the Atlanta Braves of the 90s got fatigue of not caring anymore.

I'd rather my team not prolong the inevitable keeping a playoff streak alive when it is time to rebuild.

You run the significant risk of failing the rebuild and being trash for prolonged periods.
In addition Boston is a desirable place for hockey players as has been pointed out.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

That’s fine. I’d just argue your excellent organization is a couple years and a game 7 win away from being the San Jose Sharks, and nobody holds them up as a model.

The question is, as an organization, do you want to be ‘good enough’ or do you want to win?

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

Winning culture, winning mentality, intangibles. I actually got a shit ton more respect for the city of Boston after watching Winning Time on HBO. I know it isn't true to reality but it inspired me to research into the Celtics history and Larry Bird. That NBA era was absolutely insane.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

They know how to run a organization. That simple.

Easily one of my most respected organizations.

 

[nbwingsfan]

That’s fine. I’d just argue your excellent organization is a couple years and a game 7 win away from being the San Jose Sharks, and nobody holds them up as a model.

The question is, as an organization, do you want to be ‘good enough’ or do you want to win?

By that same logic, they’re a game away from being LA as well.

SJ doesn’t have the cup win nor do they have two other SCF appearances.

SJ is also poised for a painfully long rebuild. Boston doesn’t seem close to that. If there was a season they were going to collapse, this should have been it.

Instead they have some random 2nd round pick 19yo who’s playing like a vet 2nd line player already

 

[PromisedLand]

Gotta give credit to Chara and Bergeron to create a culture where work ethic, all for one and one for all mindset is expectation from everyone whether you are the higest paid player on the team, league minimum or a rookie.

Chara and Bergeron laid a foundation that is continuing till today. How far would it continue is anyone's guess.

Redwings had a so many years without missing playoffs too eventually it caught up to them.

 

[PromisedLand]

@ OP think of what Bruins could have been had they not completely effed up their 2015 draft look at who Bruins passed over they had 13th, 14th and 15th overall

they passed over:
1. Barzal
2. Kyle Connor
3. Chabot
4. Boeser
5. Aho
6. Dunn
etc....

All they got out of those 3 picks is DeBrusk. Bruins would have been a dynasty if they hadn't messed over the 2015 draft

 

[I am Bettman]

@ OP think of what Bruins could have been had they not completely effed up their 2015 draft look at who Bruins passed over they had 13th, 14th and 15th overall

they passed over:
1. Barzal
2. Kyle Connor
3. Chabot
4. Boeser
5. Aho
6. Dunn
etc....

All they got out of those 3 picks is DeBrusk. Bruins would have been a dynasty if they hadn't messed over the 2015 draft

Debrusk and Zboril were ranked where they were picked. Senyshyn was a reach for sure and a bad pick. Bruins might not have Mcavoy if they pick some of those other guys though. You can’t just pencil in those players onto the current roster when the Bruins would have a dramatically different timeline.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

So what?

They’ve missed the playoffs just seven times during the past half century, have been under .500 just four times, and have played in eight Cup Finals. They are constantly in the mix and have achieved this without ever really tearing a roster down.

How can any fan of the sport not admire the kind of consistency they’ve had?

Apparently the one guy in here who thinks that literally the ONLY thing that defines a good franchise is how many cups they've won.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Celtics have 1 title in 40 years, bruins with 1 cup in 50 years. By far the most overrated sports city.

This doesn't include the 3 Isobel Cups the Pride won either. In addition, in this century, Boston teams (including the Pride and Revolution) have appeared in an additional 18 championships.

And BTW, Celtics have three, and in this century, not a single sports city has had anything close to Boston's level of success.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Trust me when I say I’m not up in arms. Just stating the fact that while the Bruins are regular season hero’s most of the time, they aren’t actually good at winning when it matters.

You just admitted to exactly the problem. You give your opinion and declare it to be fact. It might hold a little more weight if it wasn't such a crappy opinion. Besides the fact that you miss the entire point of why this thread was started in the first place.

 

[TheAngryHank]

To maintain this type of success it takes scouting , development and just luck. Being the type of org that players don't dondemand out helps.

 

[The don godfather]

At the moment the reason is mr don sweeney. Simply one of the best general managers in the game right now.