Why are North American chants so lame compared to soccer chants/songs?

[joelef]

There also this weird thing were we are more attached to a school we only spent for years then our communities that we eat live and breath in .

 

[tucker3434]

“ college athletics are more for the love of the game” That’s the best joke I heard all day.


Good thing to see some consistency in here

*for the fans in attendance*

If you swapped the upper and lower bowls for a typical pro event, you'd probably get closer to a college atmosphere.

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

Part of it is that in countries like England, for example, many of the teams have historically been the heart of the community, particularly in less well off, more 'blue collar' communities, so there is a lot more pride and reliance on the football club. As a result the fans feel more invested and that they are part of it, while North American sports are seen more as a form of entertainment and going out for a night versus it being an integral part of the fabric of the community. IMO anyway.

This is by far the best answer.
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And let me tell you who think it's just football in Europe it's not. Especially in Eastern Europe they have insane ultra fans for basketball, volleyball, hell even water polo.

Nikola Jovic was asked does he feel bad or does it affect him when fans booed him and he just laughed and said that I'm from Serbia, brother.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Chanting is a collective activity. North Americans attend sports game as individuals or small parties of individuals such as families or friend groups. The idea that some dude declares himself the leader of say the Nashville Predators fan sections, hands out a code of conduct and then enforces it with the help of his 20 friends who're all jacked and seasoned brawlers is absurd in a North American context and yet that's pretty close to how it more or less works in soccer in Europe and Latin America.

 

[joelef]

*for the fans in attendance*

If you swapped the upper and lower bowls for a typical pro event, you'd probably get closer to a college atmosphere.

Last decade or so college stadiums have been building luxury boxes and paying coaches millions . There professional all but in name.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

We (Europeans) are just better at making an atmosphere and having fun. It isn't just football where the atmosphere is bouncing, pretty much most sports in Europe do.

It could be partly that Americans can't handle their beer so you don't have people having drinks and fun at the sports there.

 

[kingsholygrail]

So what are these amazing and "cool" chants that Europeans do?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Because were uncultured swine

Yes we should be more like Europeans and throw bananas and make monkey noises at black athletes , they are just so superior

 

[SnowblindNYR]

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Maybe set your bar higher.

Well, the bar is f***ing low with "Refs you suck" and "f*** Ovechkin".

 

[joelef]

We (Europeans) are just better at making an atmosphere and having fun. It isn't just football where the atmosphere is bouncing, pretty much most sports in Europe do.

It could be partly that Americans can't handle their beer so you don't have people having drinks and fun at the sports there.

It’s just not Europe either. Japanese and Latin baseball also chant. Australian afl and nrl chants . Latin soccer has some amazing chants.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Football, like basketball, is better in Europe.

Mouthbreathing americans ruining sports for pure entertainment show again.

Make sure you stop by the fruit stand on your way to the match!

 

[Warden of the North]

Traditionally Canadian dominated sport features only mildly offensive chants. Followed closely by someone apologizing.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Yes we should be more like Europeans and throw bananas and make monkey noises at black athletes , they are just so superior

Isn't that an Eastern European hockey thing?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Isn't that an Eastern European hockey thing?

No. It’s a daily occurrence at soccer matches all over Europe, not just in the Eastern part.

Also this great atmosphere you find in Europe, South America soccer games is thousands of shirtless unemployed men in the stands going rabid and always in the r verge of rioting .

In North America sports are considered a family event so you can bring your kids or you know, women, which you never see in these ultras sections (for good reason.)


Sure leave it to Europeans who have such a boner over shitting on America to consider acting like barbarians at a sporting event as something that makes them “better”.

Imagine if it were the other way around .

 

[Uberpecker]

Football possesses a societal even political component and a culture of fandom that North-american sports simply doesn't have.
Just as an example, Ultras pride themselves in supporting their respective teams with chants, choreos, etc. independently of whether their team is winning or not. The fan support becomes almost a sport of it's own where fan-groups are competing with each other in the stands (and sometimes unfortunately also in the parking lots using their fists).
Also the idea of relocating a team or calling it a "franchise" is basically unthinkable.
Generally speaking, North American fandom is more results driven where fans get impatient and willing to abandon their team or even change allegiance if they don't see results like the playoffs, etc.

In football leagues with its relegation systems clubs can often fall to lower tiers and into (also economic) obscurity before reemerging in the highest national league after years, sometimes decades, maybe never. Yet, the fans often stay loyal, depending on the history and tradition of their team.

 

[tucker3434]

Last decade or so college stadiums have been building luxury boxes and paying coaches millions . There professional all but in name.

The best seats are still going to students who lead the way on atmosphere. The luxury boxes are being leased by alumni, not faceless corporations to dole out to execs.

Sure, lots of money flowing through it, but the presence at the games isn't corporate. And due to the somewhat remote nature of many college towns, it might never be.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Football possesses a societal component and a culture of fandom that North-american sports simply doesn't have.
Just as an example, Ultras pride themselves in supporting their respective teams with chants, choreos, etc. independently of whether their team is winning or not. The fan support becomes almost a sport of it's own where fan-groups are competing with each other in the stands (and sometimes unfortunately also in the parking lots using their fists).
Also the idea of relocating a team or calling it a "franchise" is basically unthinkable.
Generally speaking, North American fandom is more results driven where fans get impatient and willing to abandon their team or even change allegiance if they don't see results like the playoffs, etc.

In football leagues with its relegation systems clubs can often fall to lower tiers and into (also economic) obscurity before reemerging in the highest national league after years, sometimes decades. Yet, the fans often stay loyal, depending on the history and tradition of their team.

Also because in most of these counties soccer is literally the only sport anyone cares about. In NA , in any given city they can have 4 or more teams in the 4 major sports . Not every sports fan in New York cares about the Knicks, not everyone in Chicago cares about the Blackhawks , etc.

 

[Kshahdoo]

It's not just NA. In Russia football and hockey public are absolutely different. Like nothing in common at all. When hockey public is all about families, casual fans, girls/woman and kids, football public is... well, football public.

 

[Z-Diddy]

My conclusion is that you need a live band if you really want those kind of chants to succeed in NA.

this is more important than most think, if you go to an Oilers/Rogers game, they have the usual overlayed pop music, sometimes an organ replay, and often their weird corner brass brand, it just disjoints the whole experience, just pick one and go with it, no continuity leads to nothing

 

[Uberpecker]

Also because in most of these counties soccer is literally the only sport anyone cares about. In NA , in any given city they can have 4 or more teams in the 4 major sports . Not every sports fan in New York cares about the Knicks, not everyone in Chicago cares about the Blackhawks , etc.

Those other sports like hockey, basketball, etc. exist in European countries as well, they simply don't have that dimension of cultural and social identity that football has.
As an inprecise rule or tendency in North America it is more about entertainment and providing "a product".

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

Football possesses a societal even political component and a culture of fandom that North-american sports simply doesn't have.
Just as an example, Ultras pride themselves in supporting their respective teams with chants, choreos, etc. independently of whether their team is winning or not. The fan support becomes almost a sport of it's own where fan-groups are competing with each other in the stands (and sometimes unfortunately also in the parking lots using their fists).
Also the idea of relocating a team or calling it a "franchise" is basically unthinkable.
Generally speaking, North American fandom is more results driven where fans get impatient and willing to abandon their team or even change allegiance if they don't see results like the playoffs, etc.

In football leagues with its relegation systems clubs can often fall to lower tiers and into (also economic) obscurity before reemerging in the highest national league after years, sometimes decades, maybe never. Yet, the fans often stay loyal, depending on the history and tradition of their team.

In many places it goes further than that. You often see two (or more) teams in a city, one which was supported by the rich and the other supported by the poor / working class. The concept of moving a team in North America has been normalised. The idea of moving a team in Europe, especially in football, is sacrilege. In the UK, Wimbledon FC being moved to Milton Keynes made MK Dons one of the most hated and ridiculed teams in football, and still are for many.

 

[Turbonium]

Yes we should be more like Europeans and throw bananas and make monkey noises at black athletes , they are just so superior

Yeah, it's good thing racism isn't a problem in North America huh?

 

[joelef]

The best seats are still going to students who lead the way on atmosphere. The luxury boxes are being leased by alumni, not faceless corporations to dole out to execs.

Sure, lots of money flowing through it, but the presence at the games isn't corporate. And due to the somewhat remote nature of many college towns, it might never be.

Bowl games and commercials out of the wazoo. Your living in denial

 

[a mangy Meowth]

The funny thing is thinking there's such a thing as a chant that isn't lame

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Gregorian. That's a good chant.