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Yes but this is the best chance hell have to cash in big time. Already won a cup so if wants to make the most money possible, then it won't matter how many Fins are on his team
Who won the Canes - Avs - Hawks Trade?
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Yes but this is the best chance hell have to cash in big time. Already won a cup so if wants to make the most money possible, then it won't matter how many Fins are on his team
I like the trade for all three teams.
Carolina gets an incredible finisher for their cup run and actually have the balance sheet to try to keep him beyond that. Rantanen's game translates very well to the playoffs and we can anticipate he should have great chemistry with Aho. It would have been a shame to see Carolina fold and go for the "same old" after not quite hitting on their Guentzel move.
For Colorado: Rantanen does tend (more and more) to have a disengaged playstyle, and I think that they rightfully assessed that they could not afford to extend that type of player for top dollar given their depth issues. Getting two NHL forwards does help with those depth issues in the short term, especially that the deal also gives more cap flexibility for future deals. Necas is a significant downgrade but not an absurd one.
Chicago's case is a lot simpler - they improve their return on Hall by retaining on Rantanen instead, and apparently they also save real money in the process. The opportunity cost is a bit worrisome as they only have one retention spot left, though.
Given that Carolina gets the best player in the deal in return for a previously disgruntled player, I think they win "more", but it's a good deal all around. Love to see it.
Carolina gets an incredible finisher for their cup run and actually have the balance sheet to try to keep him beyond that. Rantanen's game translates very well to the playoffs and we can anticipate he should have great chemistry with Aho. It would have been a shame to see Carolina fold and go for the "same old" after not quite hitting on their Guentzel move.
For Colorado: Rantanen does tend (more and more) to have a disengaged playstyle, and I think that they rightfully assessed that they could not afford to extend that type of player for top dollar given their depth issues. Getting two NHL forwards does help with those depth issues in the short term, especially that the deal also gives more cap flexibility for future deals. Necas is a significant downgrade but not an absurd one.
Chicago's case is a lot simpler - they improve their return on Hall by retaining on Rantanen instead, and apparently they also save real money in the process. The opportunity cost is a bit worrisome as they only have one retention spot left, though.
Given that Carolina gets the best player in the deal in return for a previously disgruntled player, I think they win "more", but it's a good deal all around. Love to see it.
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It's gonna be a win/win imo. Probably here are underrating how good Necas is as a skater, he's gonna flourish with MacK just based off of that. Rantanen is just what Carolina needs, my issue is whether or not he can be the Avs version of himself in Carolina's system but he looked good today v NYR and awesome v NYI. Hall will probably walk but I think he'll be an awesome playoff add. Wanted him back in NJ really bad as a deadline add.
What if the Canes win a cup this year and then Avs win a cup in the next 2 years with Necas? Necas also allows them to be flexible within the next 2 years as well + future too if he extends there.
What if the Canes win a cup this year and then Avs win a cup in the next 2 years with Necas? Necas also allows them to be flexible within the next 2 years as well + future too if he extends there.
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To be honest I see this trade as a winner for both of them. It’s one of those hockey trades where both sides can benefit from it.
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Devils did this with Meier with the Swiss guard here in NJ, I wouldn't be surprised if Rantanen stays in Carolina for market value or a little lower.
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lol no they aren’t dude, they’re 29-21-2 and had atrocious depth
Trade make more sense now?
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Canes got the best player, but it will really depend on if they sign him or not.
Canes win if they can re-sign Rantanen.
Avs win every other scenario.
4months of a player is not worth a Necas level player.
Canes win if they can re-sign Rantanen.
Avs win every other scenario.
4months of a player is not worth a Necas level player.
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If either team wins the Cup this year, that will determine the winner.
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If neither team wins the cup but does so in the next 2-3 years with these players still on their team, that will determine the winner.
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If neither team wins the cup but Chicago turns that early 3rd round pick into a valuable NHLer, that will determine the winner.
So we'll know in June, or in a few years.
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If neither team wins the cup but does so in the next 2-3 years with these players still on their team, that will determine the winner.
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If neither team wins the cup but Chicago turns that early 3rd round pick into a valuable NHLer, that will determine the winner.
So we'll know in June, or in a few years.
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As an Avs admirer from a distance and a Canes skeptic, my feeling is none of them won. (Hawks, meh).
Avalanche really blew up a formula and core three that I’ve really liked and may have exited their era. Looking at the cutthroat ways Vegas has gone after every superstar makes trading a superstar voluntarily feel that much more off the mark. I get Necas has tremendous value but the shock of it hasn’t worn off for me to appreciate.
As a Canes skeptic I feel like they dug into a core piece and accelerated a la the Guentzel trade last year. But I don't know if they’re going to figure it out in the playoffs, and their handling of contracts has always been on the disposable side. Fast forward, if they let Rantanen walk it will undo a lot of the good work from the trade.
Avalanche really blew up a formula and core three that I’ve really liked and may have exited their era. Looking at the cutthroat ways Vegas has gone after every superstar makes trading a superstar voluntarily feel that much more off the mark. I get Necas has tremendous value but the shock of it hasn’t worn off for me to appreciate.
As a Canes skeptic I feel like they dug into a core piece and accelerated a la the Guentzel trade last year. But I don't know if they’re going to figure it out in the playoffs, and their handling of contracts has always been on the disposable side. Fast forward, if they let Rantanen walk it will undo a lot of the good work from the trade.
WarriorOfGandhi
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both of you are wrong, the Avalanche are 0-0-52 and only in a playoff position thanks to Bettman points
