I don't think total save% should matter. Who cares is you lose by one goal or 7, it's still a loss. Goalies MVP status should be based on how good he is when he wins. In fact if Bobrovsky bounces back in game 5 and shuts Oilers down, it shows more resilience and mental toughness to do so after a stinker.
Who Wins The Conn Smythe Trophy?
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BraveCanadian
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Up until being chased last night it looked like Bob had it locked up.
Between him and McDavid I would say and it’s likely going to the winning team. So long winded way to say probably still Bob, barring a miracle.
Between him and McDavid I would say and it’s likely going to the winning team. So long winded way to say probably still Bob, barring a miracle.
Numbers do matter. Especially when voting for awards. If he wins a Conn Smythe with below a .910 SV%, it will be one of the weakest Conn Smythe runs of all time, and one of the weakest of the modern era.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case as historically the Conn Smythe goes to a player on the winning team but...
Why would it be insulting?
It's not like they don't have a trophy for the winning team though right?
It's not an automatic that the most valuable or best player in the layoffs comes from the winning team and the case for McDavid is stronger than for anyone else this playoffs.
After all the Conn Smythe is based on a player's performance during the entire NHL postseason instead of just the championship game or series.
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This is why the Conn Smythe is an overglorified trophy. McDavid has put up the best performance in the playoffs no question, but your whole team has to perform as well and win the cup to get the smythe.
For Floridas side, Barkov is the only correct answer if McDavid doesn't win.
For Floridas side, Barkov is the only correct answer if McDavid doesn't win.
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Reaching 40 points for McDavid would seal a Smythe win even in a loss, in my view.
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It's not debatable. When the Oilers lose he will have a 0% chance like every other loser has
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IF Bob returns to a great save % the rest of the games, however many, I get what people are saying that one bad loss shouldn’t skew his chances just because it would make the overall numbers wonky. He was by far one of the biggest reasons they have the series lead. Everybody drops a stinker.
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Only goalies from what I recall. How many narrative are we gunna amend so that the Oilers can celebrate something. Lmao
I think for McDavid to win it in a losing cause, the Oilers will have to bring the series to Game 7 and lose at that point.
It would be difficult to give McDavid the Conn Smythe if the Oilers lose 4-1 in the Finals.
It would be difficult to give McDavid the Conn Smythe if the Oilers lose 4-1 in the Finals.
Would be fine with them giving it to McDavid regardless of result, don't think Bobrovsky's stats measure up and McDavid is on one of the best playoff runs ever. That said generally I wan't a winner to get it so then it would be Barkov, if Florida wins of course. If Oilers win it's a nobrainer obviously.
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Why do people keep saying stuff like this?
The year Reggie Leach won it in a losing effort his team got swept by Montreal in 4 straight.
Sure Leach had 4 goals in those 4 games but still....
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I personally don't think the gap is big enough to give it to a player on the losing team. I think he needs to be a key factor in game 5 and maybe 6 to make it hard to ignore at this point
Well if you don't think a gap of 19 points over Barkov or that a .909 save% then I don't know what to say?
I'll say it again the Conn smythe is for the entire playoffs and sure it goes to a player on the winning team basically all of the time but no one has had the gap McDavid has had on a lsoing team ever so his post season is the eception to the rule IMO.
That being said I do think some of the voters will be close minded about it and it has to come from the SC winning team.
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