Speculation: Who should be the new GM of the Washington Capitals?

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jsykes

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Yeah, the team building thing is a major factor...but the Pens have been in the thick of it every year. Its a risk with any GM...so Ill take Shero with his willingness to make moves. He has a lot to work with on the existing roster to make it better.

Well, his willingness to make moves and make TDL moves hasnt proven to actually be successful. If anything, it could be argued that him bringing in guys each year before the playoff run has disrupted what team unity there was and actually been part of the problem of them crashing and burning when it matters most.

There is being aggressive and willing to make moves in a positive way and also in a negative way.

Shero hasnt proven his way is positive to this point.
 

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Shero hasnt proven his way is positive to this point.
Um....pretty sure he won a Stanley Cup during his tenure...so he's done something right. Lost in the Finals once, went to the 3rd round last year. His teams have averaged 104 points per season (not counting the lockout shortened season)

Ill take that risk compared to handing the reigns to some noob with no experience.
 

Hivemind

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Well, his willingness to make moves and make TDL moves hasnt proven to actually be successful. If anything, it could be argued that him bringing in guys each year before the playoff run has disrupted what team unity there was and actually been part of the problem of them crashing and burning when it matters most.

There is being aggressive and willing to make moves in a positive way and also in a negative way.

Shero hasnt proven his way is positive to this point.

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John Price

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The only concern is that it hasn't worked the last 5 years. I'll eat crow if they build pieces to win cup. Maybe he just needs a fresh start.

II will say that an active deadline is better than a McPhee deadline. Don't trade, sit on what you got!!!!!!!
 

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Um....pretty sure he won a Stanley Cup during his tenure...so he's done something right. Lost in the Finals once, went to the 3rd round last year. His teams have averaged 104 points per season (not counting the lockout shortened season)

Ill take that risk compared to handing the reigns to some noob with no experience.

While I'm not against Shero, to be fair, it's not real hard to do all of that with the 2 best players in the world. What would he do with Ovi and Backstrom?

The have declined each year since then.

I'm not against it but he makes too many trades that sets them back
 

RandyHolt

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Shero's draft picks have only played 240 games. George 1000+

BFD. That just goes to show George hordes his nuts as a priority. Or, sucks at free agency and is forced to play guys before they are ready.
 

Langway

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Well...the Caps have drafted pretty well in recent history with Mahoney calling the draft shots. If he stays with the existing scouting staff...the draft is covered.

Yeah, the team building thing is a major factor...but the Pens have been in the thick of it every year. Its a risk with any GM...so Ill take Shero with his willingness to make moves. He has a lot to work with on the existing roster to make it better.
I would think that ownership will pound the table and back up their scouting staff to whoever takes over. That would mitigate Shero's draft weakness, particularly since I don't think a GM generally has a great deal of influence in individual picks outside of the first round. It's the process, the preparation and evaluation that inform those picks that a GM and head scout decide. That's where the credit and criticism is deserved. It hasn't been evident what a Pittsburgh Penguin has been aside from a grinder and even that hasn't been evident up front in their drafting. With the Caps, at least while Mahoney is around, that structure is largely in place. They can tweak it but there's no need to overhaul it completely. The question for me is if McPhee gets hired at some point does he poach Mahoney? Ala Futa with the Kings the Caps may need to bump up his job description at some point, particularly if he's able to take on new input, further diversify their criteria and continues to evolve.

Since part of PIT's ownership wants to hire Crosby's agent they should just hire McPhee & Oates instead. Oates will "fix" their PP, coddling their stars in the process and McPhee knows how to pass a mean buck and work in a culture of star worship.

The problem with hiring Shero and perhaps Trotz is that it outwardly sets expectations too high initially and, somewhat similar to the Sharks, I think they still need to take one step back in order to take two steps forward. Can that be accomplished merely with the right trades and better coaching? I'm not sure. Maybe so.

@JoshuaCooper: I think it's not a stretch to assume that #trotzwatch could go hand in hand with #sherowatch

Nashville beat writer. The only other option where that can happen right now is Vancouver, assuming Benning isn't already a done deal. I wouldn't hate it, provided Shero is prepared to learn from his mistakes.
 

Blades Ov Steel

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I don't get the argument of Mcphees draft picks 1000+ vs Sheros 200+.. So many factors can be looked at into that, and lets not forget who has won a cup and had a competitive team for years.. AND made moves that matter at the dead lines.

How much of this "poor" drafting is really on Shero instead of the scouts?
 

blokeyhighlander

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Trotz comments about waiting to see what happens with the GM position here makes a ton of sense, now.

Shero/Trotz looking more than plausible.
 

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I don't get the argument of Mcphees draft picks 1000+ vs Sheros 200+.. So many factors can be looked at into that, and lets not forget who has won a cup and had a competitive team for years.. AND made moves that matter at the dead lines.

How much of this "poor" drafting is really on Shero instead of the scouts?

By that same token the Penguins were only better than the Capitals because Crosby and Malkin are flat out better players than Ovechkin and Backstrom. Is that Mcphee's fault?
 

jsykes

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Um....pretty sure he won a Stanley Cup during his tenure...so he's done something right. Lost in the Finals once, went to the 3rd round last year. His teams have averaged 104 points per season (not counting the lockout shortened season)

And the Caps could have just as easily won the Cup that same year had they not **** the bed against the Pens in game 7.

Since then, they've had seriously good teams, been at the top of the league during the regular season, been expected to win the Cup in several of them and they've completely crashed and burned in each of them.

And its not been about losing, its about how they've lost. Been up in series and then crapping the bed. Been blown out in series they should have won. Had a ton of good players that then seemed not to gel and do what they should have.

Sound familiar? Its like Caps v2.0.

There is a reason that a team with, arguably, the two best players in the world are FIRING him.

If he couldnt make that team work and put a winning team around the two best players, what makes you think he can do it here?
 

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And the Caps could have just as easily won the Cup that same year had they not **** the bed against the Pens in game 7.

Since then, they've had seriously good teams, been at the top of the league during the regular season, been expected to win the Cup in several of them and they've completely crashed and burned in each of them.

And its not been about losing, its about how they've lost. Been up in series and then crapping the bed. Been blown out in series they should have won. Had a ton of good players that then seemed not to gel and do what they should have.

Sound familiar? Its like Caps v2.0.

There is a reason that a team with, arguably, the two best players in the world are FIRING him.

If he couldnt make that team work and put a winning team around the two best players, what makes you think he can do it here?
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Deny it all you want....but he had a part of that. The Caps never got out of the 2nd round.

Ill take my chances with that guy in that pile there somewhere.
 

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The more i think of Shero the more i like it. This GM has studied the caps for the entire Ovie/Crosby era hes knows the teams strengths and weaknesses and has the willing to pull the trigger on trades to fix the roster. I have no doubt he would upgrade the D. Pair him with a good coach and i can see us being a top playoff seed again next season.
 
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