Speculation: Who should be the new GM of the Washington Capitals?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Langway

In den Wolken
Jul 7, 2006
32,972
10,165
Wonder how much Trotz' comments on time-frame apply to the Caps?

My feeling - a bunch.
I agree but I think Vancouver's situation also applies. He was interviewed a little while ago and his timeframe then was mid-May. Now he's pushed it back a bit and it has to be due to these unsettled GM spots.
 

Hivemind

We're Touched
Oct 8, 2010
37,467
14,121
Philadelphia
Was he the one who reported the Belanger story?

I'm pretty sure there was something else more recently too, but I can't remember what. He's also considered a reliable source in general.

I think you may be right about Belanger. While he's generally a credible source, he's pretty limited to French Canadien and Montreal stories. It's not often that he gets scoops from outside of there.
 

Langway

In den Wolken
Jul 7, 2006
32,972
10,165
I think you may be right about Belanger. While he's generally a credible source, he's pretty limited to French Canadien and Montreal stories. It's not often that he gets scoops from outside of there.
He tends to have a pipeline on league info as well (suspensions, contracts, waivers).
 

JayKing

Go Habs Go
Dec 30, 2011
15,234
418
Montreal
I think you may be right about Belanger. While he's generally a credible source, he's pretty limited to French Canadien and Montreal stories. It's not often that he gets scoops from outside of there.

1st to report the Seguin trade and the Luongo trade. In my opinion he's the 2nd most reliable behind Bob Mac and just ahead of Kypreos.
 

ChibiPooky

Yay hockey!
May 25, 2011
11,486
2
Fairfax, VA
There's kind of a general idea out there from a couple people including Friedman that the Caps are waiting on the Wizards to be eliminated to make a buzz.

It's plausible that tthey have their guy lined up and are just waiting to announce it. Hershey just renewed their affiliation and I remember them not wanting to do that until the GM was in place.

If that's the case, I would think coach interviews are already lined up and/or being discussed as well.
 

Hivemind

We're Touched
Oct 8, 2010
37,467
14,121
Philadelphia
1st to report the Seguin trade and the Luongo trade. In my opinion he's the 2nd most reliable behind Bob Mac and just ahead of Kypreos.

Fair enough. Guess he's built up his contacts more in recent years. Hopefully the list he named isn't exhaustive. It certainly makes sense for the Capitals to do their due dilligence on recently ousted GMs, so long as they didn't limit their search to those three names.
 

Brian23

Registered User
Dec 3, 2011
5,852
2,740
Question, if Bylsma and Shero are fired would people be against both of them being brought in? If we retain the same scouting staff I think you can limit Shero's biggest weakness, though I'm not sure I'm totally down with both of them (or either of them) but I think its better then some of the linked possibilities.
 

um

Registered User
Sep 4, 2008
16,112
6,086
toronto
Question, if Bylsma and Shero are fired would people be against both of them being brought in? If we retain the same scouting staff I think you can limit Shero's biggest weakness, though I'm not sure I'm totally down with both of them (or either of them) but I think its better then some of the linked possibilities.

defiantly bring in shero, don't really want bylsma though.
 

fedfed

@FedFedRMNB
Oct 28, 2010
4,143
0
Moscow City
Shero's picks in the last six Drafts played in 240 NHL games. McPhee's picks over the same span played total of 1148.

Shero made a few disastrous acquisitions for almost useless veteran players (Morrow, Murray) both of whom were significant overpayments.

Shero has a history of having the dirtiest players in the league on his team (Jarkko Ruutu, Matt Cooke, James Neal).

That all leads me to belief Shero has a mentality of an old-fashioned hockey fan who believes that having older players and playing dirty helps you win. He lives in the goonery of the 80s.

Shero managed to waste some of the best years of Crosby and Malkin.

That's not to mention Shero seems to have tried all NHL players at wings of Crosby and Malkin. That list includes Jussi Jokinen, Lee Stempniak, Tyler Kennedy, Matt Cooke, Max Talbot, Arron Asham, Zach Boychuk, Beau Bennett. This list is not full, and that's over the last four seasons.

Long story shrt, when adversity came, he failed to come up with answers like Stan Bowman did with the Blackhawks. I don't see much difference between him and McPhee.
 

NobodyBeatsTheWiz

Happy now?
Jun 26, 2004
23,480
2,064
The Burbs
Yeah, Not a huge fan of Shero. He did a decent job of finishing that team after the rebuild, but has done a terrible job since.

Bylsma? I dunno. Kinda the same deal. He made the one run, which was likely at least partially due to the new coach bump, and has done nothing since.

I'd be fine with either one, I guess, since they both have some winning experience. But that wouldn't excite me in the least.
 

g00n

Retired Global Mod
Nov 22, 2007
31,267
15,868
Shero's picks in the last six Drafts played in 240 NHL games. McPhee's picks over the same span played total of 1148.

Not trying to isolate you or defend Shero, but this metric of NHL games played is bollocks. A team with a lot of veterans is not going to play a lot of draft picks, and a team playing a lot of its draft picks doesn't mean it's drafting well or playing well. It simply means it's playing a lot of its draft picks.
 

NobodyBeatsTheWiz

Happy now?
Jun 26, 2004
23,480
2,064
The Burbs
Not trying to isolate you or defend Shero, but this metric of NHL games played is bollocks. A team with a lot of veterans is not going to play a lot of draft picks, and a team playing a lot of its draft picks doesn't mean it's drafting well or playing well. It simply means it's playing a lot of its draft picks.

That's true to an extent, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a team with fewer GP from those drafts. Detroit, Boston, Chicago, LA, Rangers, Philadelphia, San Jose, and Vancouver were all veteran teams over the same time frame and all beat that number (and most dwarf it). He's been a pretty horrendous drafter.

Also, Pittsburgh had 6 players aged 24 or younger (in line with those drafts) get 20+ games this season.
 

fedfed

@FedFedRMNB
Oct 28, 2010
4,143
0
Moscow City
Not trying to isolate you or defend Shero, but this metric of NHL games played is bollocks. A team with a lot of veterans is not going to play a lot of draft picks, and a team playing a lot of its draft picks doesn't mean it's drafting well or playing well. It simply means it's playing a lot of its draft picks.

It just means that Shero didn't draft many players that were good enough for the NHL, while McPhee did.
 

g00n

Retired Global Mod
Nov 22, 2007
31,267
15,868
It just means that Shero didn't draft many players that were good enough for the NHL, while McPhee did.

I know that's what some say it means, but that's not what it means, as I explained in the post you replied to.
 

amin723

Registered User
Mar 11, 2010
1,030
252
Goodyear, AZ
when you're talking about a span of 6 years, you should probably have more than 240 games, veterans or not...That's only 3 seasons of games among what ~60 players and 210 seasons?
 

BobRouse

Registered User
Mar 18, 2009
10,144
374
Lost in Time and Space
Shero's picks in the last six Drafts played in 240 NHL games. McPhee's picks over the same span played total of 1148.

Shero made a few disastrous acquisitions for almost useless veteran players (Morrow, Murray) both of whom were significant overpayments.

Shero has a history of having the dirtiest players in the league on his team (Jarkko Ruutu, Matt Cooke, James Neal).

That all leads me to belief Shero has a mentality of an old-fashioned hockey fan who believes that having older players and playing dirty helps you win. He lives in the goonery of the 80s.

Shero managed to waste some of the best years of Crosby and Malkin.

That's not to mention Shero seems to have tried all NHL players at wings of Crosby and Malkin. That list includes Jussi Jokinen, Lee Stempniak, Tyler Kennedy, Matt Cooke, Max Talbot, Arron Asham, Zach Boychuk, Beau Bennett. This list is not full, and that's over the last four seasons.

Long story shrt, when adversity came, he failed to come up with answers like Stan Bowman did with the Blackhawks. I don't see much difference between him and McPhee.

Shero has not drafted well thats evident. Guys like Letang, MAF, Crosby, Malkin, Talbot, Orpik, Scuderi part I were all in place and were drafted by Patrick I believe.

This years Pens team lost because they have lost alot of snarl! Pretty much the exact opposite of what you are implying.

Guys like Ruutu and Cooke have not been replaced. Neal is on and off. He doesn't bring the anger game in and game out. That was the knock on him in Dallas. Their entire bottom 6 is a mess! Jussi Jokinen and Lee Stempniak are soft as butter and floaters who play in the top 6.

And lets be real here:

The Pens have a cup, a finals appearence and made it to the ECF last year.

In 2010-2011 pretty much half their team was hurt and out for the playoffs (Crosby and Malkin were both out for the year)

In 2009-2010 they got Halaked. Just like us. That happens.

People act as if they are some failure team.

NOTE: There are OTHER teams out there that are darn good too who are competing for a cup. Sometimes those teams win.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad