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GCK

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You wouldn’t trade Stutzle or Sanderson for Bedard?
No chance. Stutzle is starting an 8 year deal at 8.3. Bedard looks great but he hasn’t done it yet. If he does blow the doors off the league he will be making way more than that. I doubt the delta between them will be worth 50-70% more AAV. Sanderson is already our #1 D as a rookie, I wouldn’t move him.
 

McVespa99

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ELC vs. 10-15M. There is not one guy that wouldnt be traded for Bedard. Even McDavid. Bedard is the next McDavid and a helluva lt cheaper.
I doubt that. That would be best case scenerio+
On Edmonton I wouldnt trade McDavid and I would be very reluctant to trade Drai but probably would just because Drai only has a couple years left on his contract and is rightly going to be more expensive soon. The rub is that the Oilers are in win now mode for the next 2 or 3 years. In that time period its very very likely Drai would give them a better chance to win than Bedard would. SO maybe I wouldnt trade Drai:)
Bedard is a great prospect but still just a prospect. I dont doubt he will do well. I do doubt he will be McDavid level because who is???
 

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You might want to bookmark this when Sanderson starts winning Norris trophies. I don’t expect you to realize how unbelievably good he was as a rookie but he is very special.
Bedard will win the Hart, Art, and Norris. Connor Smythe as well.
 

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You might want to bookmark this when Sanderson starts winning Norris trophies. I don’t expect you to realize how unbelievably good he was as a rookie but he is very special.
Bedard is a generational level talent. Sanderson is elite. You'd be crazy to not take Bedard over him 1 for 1.
 
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GCK

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Bedard is a generational level talent. Sanderson is elite. You'd be crazy to not take Bedard over him 1 for 1.
Is Bedard generational ? I’m not sure about that. He’s rather small, has never met his teams goalie. I’m thinking a floor of Johnny Hockey and a ceiling of Nate MacKinnon.
 
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If Chicago offered a one for one, I think Edmonton takes it.

I don't think Bedard will take long to be great. And Edmonton gets his ELC years over paying Draisaitl 14-15 million per year.
Why would they take that? Trade a guy who has had 110+ points 3 times already in his career who probably tops out around the same? You take the proven guy every time.
 

AndreRoy

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Who would you NOT trade on your team for Bedard, 1 for 1?
Kucherov and possibly Hedman and Point.

Kucherov is a top two player in the league and the best playoff scorer of his generation, and as good as Bedard is there’s no guarantee he reaches that level, or if he does that he will do so while the team around him is still competitive. With Hedman and Stamkos heading into the twilight of their careers and a dearth of high end prospects in the Lightning’s system, the time to win is now, and Kucherov gives them the best chance of doing so.

Hedman for Bedard may make sense in a vacuum given the disparity in their ages and salaries, but Hedman when healthy is still one of the top defensemen in the game and the Lightning’s defense simply falls apart whenever he’s out or limited by injury. I might make the trade anyway given that it’s uncertain to what extent he will be able to recover from his latest issues, and the cap space freed up could be used to strengthen the defense and at least somewhat compensate for his departure, but that defense would not be pretty and the Bolts would have to hope that adding Bedard would enable them to outscore their problems defensively.

Lastly, if you put a gun to my head I would probably trade Point for Bedard, but I wouldn’t like doing it. Point is one of the best two-way centers in the league, elevates his game in the postseason, and has a knack for scoring clutch goals. The kid is flat out a winner and as crazy as it may sound to say that I wouldn’t trade him for Bedard, there’s no guarantee that Bedard won’t turn out to be another Matthews who falls apart when he’s needed most. But at least they play the same position and the difference in salary would be huge in allowing the team to add more scoring depth, so I’d lean towards making the trade with the knowledge that I might well regret it.
 
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Happyhary9

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The dude hasn't played 1 game in the nhl and is skinny. My gosh how about he plays a game in the nhl or half a season before people declare him to be great
Scouting is very good these days. Not only that the Kid has accomplished things in the Hockey world that like less then a handful of players have ever did. And every one of those are sure fire hall of famers. It isn't that he is just a great prospect, he is an unreal prospect. As in only come along every now and then. He toyed with the best prospects in the world many of who were 2 years older then him at WJC-20. He was given exemption status for the WHL. Walk in as a 15 year old (against kids up to 20 years old) and scored almost 2 points a game (15gp 12g 16a 28p).
 

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If I am Tampa Bay, given the absolute lack of goaltending potential in the once vaunted pipeline, there is no way Vasi is traded. All other players are available, if the players opt to not use the many NTC/LTC that have been handed out.
 

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I wouldn't be happy about trading Seider but even that would still be an easy decision
 

LiveLaughDucks

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ELC vs. 10-15M. There is not one guy that wouldnt be traded for Bedard. Even McDavid. Bedard is the next McDavid and a helluva lt cheaper.
Edmonton is in win now mode. No way they do 1 for 1. Best player in the world who already has chemistry with his team for a small kid with 0 NHL experience and is hopefully the best player in the world someday when McDavid is past his prime.

Again, win now mode.
 
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ToasterStutzle

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Came here to say Stutzle based on age/contract/trajectory.

Tkachuk and Sanderson I’d be very hesitant but it’s almost impossible to say no to Bedard if the ask is either of those 1 for 1 (which it wouldn’t be)
 
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Sebastien

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Scouting is very good these days. Not only that the Kid has accomplished things in the Hockey world that like less then a handful of players have ever did. And every one of those are sure fire hall of famers. It isn't that he is just a great prospect, he is an unreal prospect. As in only come along every now and then. He toyed with the best prospects in the world many of who were 2 years older then him at WJC-20. He was given exemption status for the WHL. Walk in as a 15 year old (against kids up to 20 years old) and scored almost 2 points a game (15gp 12g 16a 28p).
Scouting isn't great, that's bs. We have heard same things about numerous other prospects in the past. The dude hasn't accomplished anything in the nhl, skinny and short, and will be going against grown men , yet people are crowning him, my gosh
 

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McDavid for 3yrs @ 12.5M or Bedard on a ELC starting next fall, I take Bedard 100%
So lets say in 3 years Bedard is as good as McDavid. (This is a very big if by the way). He won't be at that level in his ELC. Moreover at the end of that period, if he has finally reached that level he'll be making more than McDavid.

In the meantime you have closed the Oilers cup window and probably watch Leon leave as a UFA. This means you are starting over with a McDavid level talent but no Draisaitl. Given the Oilers situation I see no way that they would trade either McDavid or Draisaitl for Bedard and nor do I think they should.
 
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