Who else has very little interest in the Four Nations tournament?
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GrumpyKoala
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No Kenya, No Argentina, Not interested
It's best on best hockey. We haven't see that for almost a decade. I'll watch.
It's not the Olympics, so maybe the "stakes" won't be as high, but I think it'll be entertaining. The players will care.
It's not the Olympics, so maybe the "stakes" won't be as high, but I think it'll be entertaining. The players will care.
swissdude
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Well, hardly that. I just wanted to point out that my ‘I couldn't care less’ was effectively meant as a synonym for ‘I don't give a f**k’
MessierII
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Russia’s D has never been great. The center ice position is weak but their goaltending might be the best since the end of the cold war. Wings are star studded. They are definitely legit.
You do understand that there's a practical and logical reason for this, right? Only NHL players can participate and the Czechs could not fill a complete team.
This is also an experiment. I'm sure they will find a way to include players who play in Europe next time. However, if we just get negative nancies like in this thread, there won't be more international tournaments. It will never improve.
It actually has to do with international competition. The players will care about winning for their country. And, yea, it will be a preview of some of the Olympic national teams.
It's not a moldy ass cookie. It's a peace offering, where they are trying to give the fans and the players what they've wanted for a while. Everyone needs to support this so the owners realize how much we want international competition.The NHL and its BOG have deprived us of 2 Olympics and at least one octennial joke Canada/World Cup. Forgive us if we refuse this moldy ass cookie they’re handing out.
Nice graphic, Thanks for sharing. IMHO, the bold part and development program are the basic of success.
Toene
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But they do it all wrong. It's not bitching to underline a missed occasion. Where is the Czech Republic? Germany? Switzerland? Four arbitrary nations and nothing to play for.Could be great! It's best against best and the players will play for their home country. More likely for them to push and try to win. As for Russia, they should have a special draft where each of the four nations get to pick the Russian stars one by one.
That being said, this thread is a good way to identify the people on here who are against fun. The NHL is trying to bring back international competition and we still got people bitching and whining about it before the tourney has even been played.
And Russia hasn’t won a true best in best since when? How is their D “never been good” supposed to be some kind of positive?
Also who their #2 or #3 G is meaningless. Only one can play. And other countries have a good #1 too.
Russia wouldn’t medal anyway
MessierII
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On paper they are definitely better than Finland IMO but Finland has a way to gelling and overachieving internationally. You’re making it seem like they would be totally unworthy of playing like Norway or something. Who medals in this situation? There’s 4 teams.
Russia would medal if they were the host country, but that's the only way.
Take that, Russia!
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Correction; the tournament is a joke with or without them.
MLB routinely shoots itself in the foot but even they figured out how to make an international tournament work with the World Baseball Classic. That tourney had everything from the perfect script final of Japan vs the US (with Trout v Ohtani being the final at bat) to legitimate competition. Perfect mix of elite level competition and getting to shine the spotlight on smaller baseball nations like the Czechs, who sent a bunch of 9 to 5 workers who also happened to love the game.
This just feels like a shitty corporate attempt to go "see? you don't need the olympics!"
SirKillalot
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I have basically no interest. But i will say this is better than the traditional all star game which i have negative interest in.
Also u just know someone is going to get injured and screw up their teams playoff chances
Also u just know someone is going to get injured and screw up their teams playoff chances
Beukeboom Fan
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I think the bigger connotation is what RR alluded to. This is a warm up for the Olympics and I expect that the Olympic rosters will look very similar to the 4 Nations event lineups. The event itself is just a filler event that is replacing the ASG, so it can't be worse than the alternative, and I expect with national pride on the line the intensity level will be much higher.
Oilslick941611
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Need to wait for the game to see how much I care about it.
If it’s just all star game effort and intensity then I won’t care. If there is some effort and intensity to the games I’ll care. I’m pretty ambivalent towards it. It’s happening so why not wait until it happens to shit or not shit on it. We don’t know what expect from it.
If it’s just all star game effort and intensity then I won’t care. If there is some effort and intensity to the games I’ll care. I’m pretty ambivalent towards it. It’s happening so why not wait until it happens to shit or not shit on it. We don’t know what expect from it.
Reality Czech
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Not arbitrary, anyone with a clue knows they are the top 4 ranked countries in the world among those eligible to play. Wouldn't be surprised if they expand it next time around but you've gotta start somewhere.
It's hockey, so I'll watch. With two days of practice, not sure how good the teams gel.
If the games are entertaining, it's a win. If not, HF can roast Bettman on a whole new level, which in itself entertains me.
If the games are entertaining, it's a win. If not, HF can roast Bettman on a whole new level, which in itself entertains me.
NeverForget06
Here we go again !
I struggled to care about the World Cup thing back in 2016 and this seems like a skeleton of that
This 4 Nations Tournament is an NHL-created and NHL-controlled event.
So, why were NHL players from Russia not allowed to participate?
This ban would seem to spit in the face of the 50+ Russian players currently in the NHL.
This Tournament should have been put on ice until international relations improve.
So, why were NHL players from Russia not allowed to participate?
This ban would seem to spit in the face of the 50+ Russian players currently in the NHL.
This Tournament should have been put on ice until international relations improve.
varsaku
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Problem is NHL wants all the money but needs other leagues to fill out nations outside of these four.
Sergei Shirokov
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Don't understand the lack of interest. It won't be Olympics but it'll be interesting.
What if Canada or the USA really bomb in this tournament & don't make the final? It'll be a massive story ahead of Italy.
What if Canada or the USA really bomb in this tournament & don't make the final? It'll be a massive story ahead of Italy.
Oilslick941611
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The World Cup was handicapped with the North American team and team Europe. Thst was a gimmick.
This is just 4 teams playing. The lack of practice is what’s going to kill this thing. No team is gonna gel
Not really. Team is thrown together barely any practices and they’ll play what 3 games?
It’s going to be meaningless in the end of the thing. Especially since national teams usually take a while to get going and Canada is a notoriously slow starting team that only gets better as the games go on but in this tournament there’s no runway. There will be nothing to be read from this tournament other than scouting for the Olympic team because national teams haven’t been able to have best on best teams in 10 years
