Jericho111091
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For the hell of it I want to see the zoomy boi line of Kempe-Kupari-Wagner
Prospect Info: Who does LA pick #2? Part 2 To Byfield or to Stutzle? That is the question
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Byfield could even start on the wing to take pressure off. Imagine him and Kopitar coming down the ice with Brown. The other teams better beef up their D.
If the season is to start late there’s nothing wrong keeping him up for his nine games and lending him to the world Junior championships. It would be interesting to see what sort of strength training and skills training a guy like that could get it at the NHL level. Even if he sits out a few games in between I could see it benefiting him in the long run. If he’s able to handle the NHL keep him up if not send them back for half a season of Junior to dominate that league
If the season is to start late there’s nothing wrong keeping him up for his nine games and lending him to the world Junior championships. It would be interesting to see what sort of strength training and skills training a guy like that could get it at the NHL level. Even if he sits out a few games in between I could see it benefiting him in the long run. If he’s able to handle the NHL keep him up if not send them back for half a season of Junior to dominate that league
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And we have to consider the COVID factor. Who knows if the CHL will even start on time or what happens if they have an outbreak on several teams? In the event something like that happens I would much rather Byfield be with the NHL club to train and practice with. Would you rather have him be in Sudbury with whatever protocols and training is available if their league has to shut down temporarily again?
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then we will have a new guy to call Muffin. His shot is horrid.
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If the Kings pick Sanderson with Byfield on the board, I’m switching allegiences to Seattle.
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To be honest, I’d probably rather have him be in Canada than the US at this point
KingsOfCali25
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Looking at a lineup like LA has here....I'd rather have Stutzle. He can play C/LW. This would be a future lineup (not next season or the next most likely).
Stutzle--Kopitar--Kaliyev
Kempe--Vilardi--Frk
Fagemo--Turcotte--Kupari
Madden--JAD--Thomas
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Interesting, but there is no way all of these young forwards will be on the scene during the same time Kopitar has remaining as an effective 1C.
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Do you want a playmaking winger though? I'd much rather have someone who can score goals there like Byfield. There is no reason he can't slot in at wing.
KingsOfCali25
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I doubt more than 4 of those guys stick when they get near NHL ready. LA is going to have to move some of the young guys to fill other holes. The question is which guys will it be? We will find out within the next year or two which guys it will be.
Edit: this "lineup" is just my own personal mock up of where I think our prospects will fit in best
KingsOfCali25
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Most people that follow the prospects more think Byfield will be a Malkin type, but I see him more as Eric Staal or a less scoring Rick Nash. Nothing wrong with that but not what I'd hope for with what the Kings have in the pipeline. I see Stutzle as the better well rounded player with game breaking abilities. Can you imagine Stutzle setting up Kaliyev on the Power Play? That's like Patty Kane setting up Ovechkin. I think Byfield has greater potential than Stutzle (not by much); but Byfield has way more bust potential than Stutzle. Stutzle is a great two way player that needs to work on his shot. Byfield can score but needs to work on his defensive side of the game. He seems to be a floater most games I've seen and doesn't use his body to stop the other teams. I don't see that fire in him to be the best player on the ice every night like everyone says. I can see it offensively but he looks like a lost cause defensively. Just my opinion but I'd much rather have Stutzle but it's damn close.
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Eric Staal has a 45 goal, 100 point season and more points than anyone from the legendary 2003 draft class. If that's Byfield's career path projected, I take him over Stutzle AND Lafreniere without blinking. You just made the case for Byfield stronger!
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I get what you and others are stating regarding Schtuzle being a player maker, and he certainly is. He does have the ability to make others around him better, being picked in the top 5 I would hope he would. But, Byfield is no slouch in the assist column himself:
Quinton Byfield
Center -- shoots L
Born Aug 19 2002 -- Newmarket, ONT
[17 yrs. ago]
Height 6.04 -- Weight 215 [193 cm/98 kg]
| Regular Season | Playoffs | ||||||||||||
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| Season | Team | Lge | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | +/- | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM |
| 2017-18 | Newmarket Hurricanes | OJHL | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | |
| 2018-19 | Sudbury Wolves | OHL | 64 | 29 | 32 | 61 | 38 | 12 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 8 | 16 |
| 2019-20 | Sudbury Wolves | OHL | 45 | 32 | 50 | 82 | 44 | 26 |
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He had the numbers that prove isn't just a one-dimensional scorer, he elevates those around him as well. Only with the prototypical size NHL teams covet in a #1C.
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The consensus on Stutzle is that he is the most NHL ready prospect in this draft. My opinion is that he is also closer to his ceiling than others. I could be wrong, but that's the way I choose to see it. That is also another reason why I see the Kings selecting Byfield. I think he will have more of an impact on NHL ice given his what he brings to the table.
KingsOfCali25
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That was 1 year. His next best year was 82 points and every other year was 76 points or lower. That's good but not great.
Stutzle projects out as a Mitchell Marner or at worst Claude Giroux. Which Giroux has better numbers than Staal. Giroux has had a 102 point season (34 goals) and 3 more seasons over Eric Staals next best season of 82 points. Again good not great but definitely better than Staal.
But like I said...it's close but I'd rather have the two-way playmaker in Stutzle than the one dimensional scorer in Byfield.
Stutzle just fits in with what the team's new core needs. And after Lafreniere he is the next BPA. Stutzle is the kind of talent LA has always been missing and wanting to find.
Ziggy Stardust
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Byfield is now one dimensional? Where are people pulling this information from? Guess some posters know more than Mark Yannetti. Better reach out to him and let him know Byfield is one dimensional.
LA Kings Have Two Players In Their Crosshairs For 2nd Overall Draft Pick
“He’s a wonderful option at #2,” said Yanetti. “Find the flaw in his game. He’s 6-4. People don’t realize—they think he’s a big, 6-4 guy who’s feasting on smaller competition. But he’s nowhere near his potential for growth yet. I didn’t find him to be a particularly strong player for his size. That doesn’t mean that he wasn’t strong. But at 6-4, and at his size, there are players who are a lot stronger.”
“When he’s all said and done, he’s going to be a force,” added Yanetti. “He’s going to have two power forward elements. If you’re talking straight-on speed, he’s as good a skater as anyone in the draft. He can score, put points on the board, play defense. There isn’t a real flaw in his game.”
LA Kings Have Two Players In Their Crosshairs For 2nd Overall Draft Pick
“He’s a wonderful option at #2,” said Yanetti. “Find the flaw in his game. He’s 6-4. People don’t realize—they think he’s a big, 6-4 guy who’s feasting on smaller competition. But he’s nowhere near his potential for growth yet. I didn’t find him to be a particularly strong player for his size. That doesn’t mean that he wasn’t strong. But at 6-4, and at his size, there are players who are a lot stronger.”
“When he’s all said and done, he’s going to be a force,” added Yanetti. “He’s going to have two power forward elements. If you’re talking straight-on speed, he’s as good a skater as anyone in the draft. He can score, put points on the board, play defense. There isn’t a real flaw in his game.”
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I have never heard anything about this. I heard the consensus was Lafreniere was the only player they believed would be NHL ready for next year. All I’ve heard is people talking about Stützle remaining in Germany next year.
I heard some of the experts speculating that Rossi may be physically developed enough to make the jump and I heard other experts counter argue that he will have to change his game as he won’t be able to pull the same moves on the NHL size players that he could with the juniors.
Just because Stützle played against mendoesn’t mean that the quality was there. Every highlight I see of Stützle I see how he uses the extra 15 feet of ice to his advantage to slip away from players giving him the him extra time and space to make plays.
During his last interview I listen to he did state he gained weight but not 15 pounds. He stated that he was up to 89 kg which is about 195 pounds, so some gain just not the massive we believed.
I really like Stützle but I think he’s gonna have a hard time adjusting to the NHL if thrown in right away. Between the size of the rinks, the size of the players and the extra strength of the players he will not be able to do what he’s used to doing and I can see him getting knocked off the puck more than he is used too.
my other dislike about Stützle is really his shot. It does not look dangerous at all and that’s against German goaltending.
I don’t care if the kings pick him at two as that right in the area he is speculated to go but I do not anticipate him being a permanent fixture on the team and Actually doing well next year.
TruKingFan
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From a place where the sun don't shine? Ridiculous casting Byfield as a "0ne-dimensional scorer".
Raccoon Jesus
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I try not to say it too much but 7 goals in 41 games in that league, fed as much offensive time as he was is, frankly, a little bit terrifying. The DEL defense is questionable at best and the top 10 goalies is littered with AHL castoffs like Zatkoff and Pogge.
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Maybe you two should get on the case and try to find somebody who ever once said that.
It'll be a hoot.
Raccoon Jesus
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It's literally 5 posts up. Am I missing a joke?
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