Who do you get rid of this offseason?

[TopCheese]

wish we could get rid of JT but that aint happening. Dude moves like a statue out there

 

[notDatsyuk]

Do you guys get paid by f***ing Tavares?

Why is Tavares not in any option, he should be thrown away along with his shitty pajama before anyone else.

He's not an option because with his NMC he can't be moved, and because with him being overpaid for the last two years by about 7 or 8 million, nobody will take him (I don't think there's an equally bad contract that could come back).

I would so much love to be proven wrong.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Main reason I don’t want to trade JT is because I think he take a big hometown discount on his next deal

His idea of a "big hometown discount" last time was $11M x 7 and a full NMC.

I'd like to get rid of him, but if we can't, we certainly don't want to re-sign him.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Funny how everyone is loving nylander but where was he in round 1? Matthews was our MVP in round 1 while nylander was no where to be found.

Nylander was the MVP of round 2 and still only scored 2 goals in 5 games.

"No where to be found" yet managed to be tied with Matty for shots and only a couple of points behind (despite 20% less ice time and hall the PP time), not to mention almost single-handedly pulling us back from the 4-1 deficit.

 

[notDatsyuk]

It's weird how the softest guy on the team Nylander get's left off of this list with 2 goals and 1 assist.
Also Barkov got 1 goal and 2 assists, both assists last night and Tkachuk had 5 assists and no goals.

I think the poster didn't want to emphasize how bad the $11M players were by showing how much better the $7M player was.

 

[BallardEra]

Main reason I don’t want to trade JT is because I think he take a big hometown discount on his next deal

I’m done with seeing retirement “Club Med” deals for Toronto boys.

 

[Tedd]

You definitely don't want Dubas negotiating the Matthews contract, and Nylander's the following year. I assume Marner will be traded. Dubas has done a terrible job negotiating contracts, drafting, and assembling the roster. He mortgaged future assets because he F'd up on so many things from day 1. Yes, you want speed and skill but you also need some nastiness and drive in the top 2 lines. The big 4 have none of that when teams play bully ball in the playoffs.

 

[Blanche Blanche]

We had a mediocre NHL coach blessed with elite talent who individually can pull games out of the fire in the regular season with a slight burst in effort and focus. As troubling as his in-game strategy was, his distinct lack of subtlety in dealing with officiating was worse often going into petulant rages that I'm sure influenced no one. Gone.
Our GM also blessed with inheriting someone else's elite talent went with duct tape and dumpster diving to fix the goaltending for these pivotal seasons. One was a physical wreck as expected (Murray). The other was supposed to be an uneven performer and also turned out to be physically fragile as well (Samsonov). The default became an unpolished greenhorn who fortunately wasn't a disaster but very much could have been. The GM is a serial offender with questionable goaltending decisions (Sparks, Mrazek). The GM traded away draft picks left and right to make this team a proper contender. They weren't a proper contender, they got handled fairly easily by a younger more robust team that openly taunted them in victory. It was an embarrassing loss. They went 1-5 at home in the 2023 NHL playoffs.

Sums up my sentiment quite nicely.

Well done sir.

Since I couldn't vote on the poll because if I tried to click on any of the options an ad would come up I'll do it here. Get rid of Dubas, Keefe, Matthews (who wants to leave anyway), and Marner. Let Holl, Bunting, and Kerfoot walk.

Trade Jarnkrok, Brodie. Keep Knies, Schenn, ROR, Acciari, Lafferty, Kampf, Lilly, McCabe. Robidas for Muzzin and Murray. Keep Woll and Sammy. Get rid of Tavares if you can (not likely).

I saved the best for last. Time for me to eat a little crow. The two guys on this team who I am the hardest on in the regular season, Reilly, and Willie, are playoff warriors you keep and make leaders on this team. Build around them and the people I said to keep above.

EDIT: Gio, time to retire.

Reilly and Willie. Playoff Warriors. You tell me that start of the season I'd laugh.

Now only 44 and 29/88 as my jerseys

 

[Blanche Blanche]

The big question re. Dubas for me is my fear that he takes loyalty too far. I'd like him to stay, but only if he's willing to make some changes. Then there's the question of if he even wants to stay.

First change he has to be willing to make is Keefe, he's on the top of my shit list and if Dubas doesn't agree he needs to go, then Dubas needs to go.

Then it's Matthews and Nylander, I'd resign both depending on the cost. If they want too much, then trade them for whatever you can get. You simply can't say sign them, without knowing the cost, not in this cap world. What's Matthews worth though, that's the toughest question perhaps.

All the other decisions flow from that. I'd like to see what we can get for Marner, we could get a ton for him in a trade as he has two years left on his contract. I'm in the "at least on core piece has to move" crowd and he's the logical choice.

Trading all of the big 3 has some appeal, on one hand you could say this team is so close, they played really well last night so just do a little tweaking but we've been doing that for so many years and it's gotten us nowhere. But then, I don't think ownership would be willing to do a massive rebuild so as appealing as that might seem, I think it's off the table.

So many moving pieces, impossible to predict what's going to happen. If they bring back Keefe and M&M though, it's going to be hard for me to get up for next season.

100%
You trade our 40 goal scorer, and playoff performer in Nylander and keep both M&M.
I'm not gonna pay attention next season.

If Keefe isn't gone, I'll actually be pissed.

Lots of Leafs fans will be lost if thats the direction i'm sure

 

[Trapper]

It doesn’t really matter until Shanahan is changed. If his build philosophy is true.
He probably wants a team that is built as if they are playing in a world championship tournament and not 4 rounds of the NHL playoffs.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

If you could magically move Tavares contract I would love an upgrade on the backend that can also contribute offensively.

Move JT and sign Dumba and Orlov with his and Holls money. Dumba has a big shot that could help diversify the PP as well.

Reilly Dumba
Orlov Brodie
McCabe Lily

Extras
Gio Schenn

 

[SantosHalper]

If anyone is going to take Marner+ it’ll have to start around your best winger, top 3 prospect and your 1st

Just Marner, would be enough. But price is too rich for Detroit.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Dubas, a "high end executive"? Ell oh ell.

Dubas supporters act like he hit a triple but the reality is he was the pinch runner put on third with no outs and in the end got thrown out at the plate on a sacrifice fly to end the game.

 

[MarMarSab3]

What if the problem with Matthews is Marner? They feed of each other in all the wrong ways. I'd like to see Matthews without Marner on this team.

 

[Clark4Ever]

The only one I'm sure about at this point is Keefe.

Of the core players, Tavares makes the most sense but it's not realistic due to cap implications. Matthews and Marner were massive disappointments against Florida, but put up big numbers against Tampa Bay so I'm still on the fence about moving them. Nylander should stay.

Dubas or the next GM will have their work cut out for them this summer.

 

[Rubyblue]

Just Marner, would be enough. But price is too rich for Detroit.

Dubas needs to go. Poor drafting, over paid Mathews & Marner & the Tavaras signing. Now pay structure has to be corrected so they can ice a more balanced team. Nylander deserves a raise, Mathews is already getting more than he should & Marner's already overpaid. Contracts should decide who stays or goes. Brodie, Holl, Kerfoot, Aston Reese, Giordano need to be replaced. There is nothing on Marlies though. Need bigger, meaner team & a more confident, assertive coach to push this team forward. Wander how core would have reacted to Paul Maurices tirade on the bench during their last regular season game? Actually, I think we know.

 

[ACC1224]

Ideally about half the fanbase.

 

[Machinae]

trade Marner and Nylander for sure. Matthews has to be moved by July 1st if he's not willing to sign extension. Re-sign ROR. Move JT to wing. Re-sign Acciari.

Knies - Matthews - xxx
Tavares - O'Reilly - xxx
Jarnkrok - xxx - xxx
McMann - Lafferty - Acciari

Look at your callups and Robertson, use marner/nylander money to fill in top-6 with guys with less skill but more will.

 

[ShaneFalco]

I think Knies is promising but c'mon

 

[IPS]

Dubas, a "high end executive"? Ell oh ell.

Dubas supporters act like he hit a triple but the reality is he was the pinch runner put on third with no outs and in the end got thrown out at the plate on a sacrifice fly to end the game.

I swear they've conditioned themselves to think everything he does is/was elite.

I didn't even find the ROR trade to be all that amazing. He flopped in the Florida series. I didn't find McCabe all that impressive either.

It's weird how the softest guy on the team Nylander get's left off of this list with 2 goals and 1 assist.
Also Barkov got 1 goal and 2 assists, both assists last night and Tkachuk had 5 assists and no goals.

The $7M guy actually put the puck in the net and the $11M boys didn't.

This ain't the first time this has happened either.

 

[facelessjoe1990]

I think that if Dubas is gone for whatever reason Shanny becomes acting GM until after July 1st. A good candidate for the position would be Laurence Gilman.

 

[cupcrazyman2]

 

[Gabriel426]

How can you take this poll seriously when Reilly got 25 votes?

Is Reilly being traded to get Makar to come this way?

 

[authentic]

How can you take this poll seriously when Reilly got 25 votes?

Is Reilly being traded to get Makar to come this way?

Atleast it's less than every other option lol

 

[Gabriel426]

If there is another Tkachuk out there and could be available, he is JT Miller.
Think a JT for JT swap would be good for both teams but most likely Garland is coming our way due to cap reason.

Atleast it's less than every other option lol

But it should not be an option to begin with. Also I don't see Murray, lol