Who are currently the Best International players in the World?

[Baseballhockey24*]

Only using World Championships, WJC and OLYMPICS (no NHL, KHL Etc) who are currently the Best players in the World internationally?

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[Appleyard]

Kharmalov:
OG: 36 points in 17 games
WC: 156 points in 105 games
Other senior: 93 points in 72 games

Fetisov:
OG: 33 points in 22 games
WC: 96 points in 101 games
Other senior: 18 points in 22 games

Selanne:
OG: 43 points in 37 games
WC: 48 points in 43 games
Other senior: 11 points in 16 games

Firsov:
OG: 32 points in 20 games
WC: 85 points in 47 games

Maltsev:
OG: 31 points in 18 games
WC: 153 points in 108 games
Other senior: 18 points in 25 games

Zabrodsky:
OG: 26 points in 15 games
WC: 61 points in 29 games
Other senior: ~another 50+ at well over PPG

Kuhnhackel:
OG: 24 points in 11 games
WC: 66 points in 65 games

Peter Stastny:
OG: 23 points in 14 games
WC: 36 points in 37 games
Other international: another ~50+ at over PPG

Petrov:
OG: 17 points in 17 games
WC: 120 points in 75 games
Other Senior: 15 points in 18 games

Tumba:
OG: 26 points in 21 games
WC: 87 points in 76 games
Other senior: over PPG in ~40 games

Mikhailov:
OG: 17 points in 16 games
WC: 136 points in 86 games
Other senior: 14 points in 18 games

Are pretty good places to start.

Hossa and Heatley spring to mind as guys before this decade but recent who were also darn good for their country.

 

[Pominville Knows]

Sundin was always stellar or excellent.

 

[Theokritos]

Only using World Championships, WJC and OLYMPICS (no NHL, KHL Etc) who are the Best players in the World internationally?

Historically or contemporary?

 

[JimboA]

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[Erikfromfin]

propably not the best but Raimo Helminen deserves mention

He holds the world record for most international games played at 331 games.
He is also one of only 2 players with Selänne to play in 6 different Olympics.
IIHF Hall of Fame 2012

 

[xxxx]

Heatley had an unbelievable tournament in 2008, that line (Nash-Getzlaf-Heatley) was unstoppable. Heatley 12 goals and 20 points in 9 games, Nash 6g and 13 points, Getzlaf 14 points.

Against the hardest opposition (USA, Finland, Sweden, and Russia), Heatley scored 6 goals in those 4 games. At least one goal in each game.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

As a Pens fan I was going to throw Crosby's name into the mix. I thought Sid had a decent tournament this go around, but then I noticed Malkin has the better international record. Better Olympic record and way more GP for Geno, and he has a WC MVP as well. I'd say he's been stellar internationally.

 

[Appleyard]

As a Pens fan I was going to throw Crosby's name into the mix. I thought Sid had a decent tournament this go around, but then I noticed Malkin has the better international record. Better Olympic record and way more GP for Geno, and he has a WC MVP as well. I'd say he's been stellar internationally.

When you start looking at post NHL involvement Olympic records PPG over a few tourneys is a serious achievement...

Guys with 1PPG+ in 10 or more individual Olympic games played:

Hossa: 28 in 19. 1.47 PPG
Demitra: 20 in 15. 1.33 PPG
Sundin: 20 in 16. 1.25 PPG
Koivu: 23 in 20. 1.15 PPG
Selanne: 32 in 29. 1.10 PPG
Hull: 11 in 10. 1.10 PPG
Alfredsson: 27 in 26. 1.04 PPG
Bure: 12 in 12. 1.00 PPG

That is a seriously short list considering how many amazing players have played in multiple Olympics... I mean, by my count around 150 forwards have played in 10+ Olympic games since 98.

 

[Baseballhockey24*]

Sorry guys should have currently playing like a top 30

 

[Belamorte]

Kharmalov:
OG: 36 points in 17 games
WC: 156 points in 105 games
Other senior: 93 points in 72 games

Fetisov:
OG: 33 points in 22 games
WC: 96 points in 101 games
Other senior: 18 points in 22 games

Selanne:
OG: 43 points in 37 games
WC: 48 points in 43 games
Other senior: 11 points in 16 games

Firsov:
OG: 32 points in 20 games
WC: 85 points in 47 games

Maltsev:
OG: 31 points in 18 games
WC: 153 points in 108 games
Other senior: 18 points in 25 games

Zabrodsky:
OG: 26 points in 15 games
WC: 61 points in 29 games
Other senior: ~another 50+ at well over PPG

Kuhnhackel:
OG: 24 points in 11 games
WC: 66 points in 65 games

Peter Stastny:
OG: 23 points in 14 games
WC: 36 points in 37 games
Other international: another ~50+ at over PPG

Petrov:
OG: 17 points in 17 games
WC: 120 points in 75 games
Other Senior: 15 points in 18 games

Tumba:
OG: 26 points in 21 games
WC: 87 points in 76 games
Other senior: over PPG in ~40 games

Mikhailov:
OG: 17 points in 16 games
WC: 136 points in 86 games
Other senior: 14 points in 18 games

Are pretty good places to start.

Hossa and Heatley spring to mind as guys before this decade but recent who were also darn good for their country.

Mostly guys who padded their stats by playing against inferior competition.

 

[GKJ]

Mostly guys who padded their stats by playing against inferior competition.

Not their problem, you can only play who is on the other team.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

Sergei Mozyakin

 

[snizzbone*]

Petri Kontiola
42 points in 52 games (WC + 1 OLY)
2 WC Silvers
1 OLY Gold

Ilya Kovalchuk
91 points in 101 games
OLY Bronze
WC Bronze x2
WC Silver x1
WC Gold x2

Alex Ovechkin
71 points in 86 games
2 WC Bronze
2 WC Silver
3 WC Gold

Jaromir Jagr
93 points in 111 games
3 WC Bronze
2 WC Gold
1 OLY Gold

Marian Hossa
67 points in 71 games

Olli Jokinen
63 points in 110 games
3 WC Bronze
4 WC Silver
2 OLY Bronze
1 OLY Silver

^10 Senior medals.. insane.

 

[Brun0]

Petri Kontiola
42 points in 52 games (WC + 1 OLY)
2 WC Silvers
1 OLY Gold

Ilya Kovalchuk
91 points in 101 games
OLY Bronze
WC Bronze x2
WC Silver x1
WC Gold x2

Alex Ovechkin
71 points in 86 games
2 WC Bronze
2 WC Silver
3 WC Gold

Jaromir Jagr
93 points in 111 games
3 WC Bronze
2 WC Gold
1 OLY Gold

Marian Hossa
67 points in 71 games

Olli Jokinen
63 points in 110 games
3 WC Bronze
4 WC Silver
2 OLY Bronze
1 OLY Silver

^10 Senior medals.. insane.

Yeah and Olli jokinen has WJC gold too and WORLD CUP SILVER...

Also Tuomo ruutu I belvieve has 13 medals in 14 tournaments...

 

[TheGoldenJet]

When you start looking at post NHL involvement Olympic records PPG over a few tourneys is a serious achievement...

Guys with 1PPG+ in 10 or more individual Olympic games played:

Hossa: 28 in 19. 1.47 PPG
Demitra: 20 in 15. 1.33 PPG
Sundin: 20 in 16. 1.25 PPG
Koivu: 23 in 20. 1.15 PPG
Selanne: 32 in 29. 1.10 PPG
Hull: 11 in 10. 1.10 PPG
Alfredsson: 27 in 26. 1.04 PPG
Bure: 12 in 12. 1.00 PPG

That is a seriously short list considering how many amazing players have played in multiple Olympics... I mean, by my count around 150 forwards have played in 10+ Olympic games since 98.

Agreed, but I would adjust for the fact that some of those Olympics were not best-on-best tournaments, eg 1992 and 1994 winter games.

 

[billcook]

Agreed, but I would adjust for the fact that some of those Olympics were not best-on-best tournaments, eg 1992 and 1994 winter games.

Ehm, this numbers are from 1998 onwards...

When you start looking at post NHL involvement Olympic records PPG over a few tourneys is a serious achievement...

 

[DrunkElkCZ]

Robert Reichel was one of the best Czech players for the NT. Not necessarily in terms of points (72 points in 99 games) but in achivements. 1 OG gold, 3 WHC golds, 4 WHC bronze, 1 WC bronze. Was C at 6 WHCs (including all gold WHCs and one bronze WHC) and at the WC in 2004. He was definitely better player for the national team than for teams in the NHL or Czech league

 

[Theokritos]

Note the clarification by the OP (see thread title): This is not about earlier players like Kharlamov or even Robert Reichel. It's about current players.

 

[Jablkon]

Note the clarification by the OP (see thread title): This is not about earlier players like Kharlamov or even Robert Reichel. It's about current players.

David Vyborny is still playing in CZ league.Is he eligible?
WC record:

5! golds
1 silver
2 bronze medals......

Pretty impressive IMO

 

[Aceonfire*]

Homer vote for Eberle. The guy loves the big ice.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

He has an unbelievable 116 points in 87 games for Sweden, including a record 31 points in 7 games at the World Junior Championship of 1993.

2 Olympic Gold
2 World Championship Gold
3 World Championship Silver
2 World Junior Championship Silver (all time top scorer of the tournament)

You can't do better than that. That goal to win it for Sweden is the #1 highlight of his career. He's retired, but he's the best international performer of all time IMO.

 

[Acallabeth]

Sergei Mozyakin

Mozyakin has always been a disappointment on the international stage. He doesn't belong here.

He has an unbelievable 116 points in 87 games for Sweden, including a record 31 points in 7 games at the World Junior Championship of 1993.

And "only" 57 points in 63 games on adult level. I agree that Forsberg was great though.

Pavel Datsyuk is really good internationally. 66 games and only 51 points, and he's only been the World Champion once, but it includes 4 Olympics, 2004 World Cup (Pavel has 21 points in 23 Olympic games) and great all-around play.

Another Russian veteran who has always delivered is Danis Zaripov: 48 points in 48 games, 3 time world champion. Though he's been a part of an excellent ZZM line.

Evgeni Malkin: 77 points in 69 games (also 42 points in 30 U18 and U20 games), 2-time World Champion, U18 champion.

 

[Macman]

Fittingly enough, Gretzky had 99 points in 61 international games, including 17 points in six games as a 16-year-old at his only WJC. He was the youngest player to ever lead the tournament in scoring.

 

[CanadienShark]

Homer vote for Eberle. The guy loves the big ice.

When I think World Juniors, I think Eberle. That one year... the guy will go down in Canadian WJC history in my mind.