Proposal: Boston trade chips
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Bruin4
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I like him, he brings an element that all teams want and miss when they don’t have it.
He’s not going to let players take liberties on his teammates without retribution. He won’t win all his fights but he wins enough of them and he has an under rated shot.
The Bruins are a mess this year and tfred has played with just about everyone.
That Still no reason for all the no shows he’s had this year, kind of hard to figure out why being a contract year. I think he’s still a player though who will bring back a couple of 2nds or 2nd and a prospect.
I guess we’ll see unless the Bruins sign him.
dredeye
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Now if anyone grabbed Korpisalo he’s absolutely someone I see no way of avoiding having to eat some of his contract.
The Bruins board has killed Frédéric this year and now he is worth 1st? Guy has 15 points in 55 games and has the worst +/- of anyone on the team. Any team giving up a first is dumb.
Bruin4
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Lol
The guy I’d want the most outside of Marchand is Coyle. He’s a puck possession machine in the offensive zone. Very underrated rated player. He’s been asked to play up in Boston and does well, but he’s not a top six guy, but creates a major mismatch when he’s placed appropriately in the line- up. He has one more year on his contract after this one, so I’d be surprised if the Bruins move him.
He’s worth a first easily with some retention by the Bruins imo, but I don’t see him being moved.
wintersej
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Too many players of the same type. Its a pile of great support guys on a contender, problem is that Bruins have been hemorrhaging the top of the lineup guys for them to support.
Tasteless Beaver
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There are maybe 4 first round picks left in play for the deadline, and you think Trent f***ing Frederic is going to get one of them? lmfao this is Montreal-level delusion.
dredeye
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I think a lot of fans are hoping on last years value. I’m thinking unless he catches fire like never before his ceiling is likely a 2nd
It is considered a pretty junk draft after the top 15 I believe it is so I don’t think they’ll have much value but me personally I think he’s in the 2nd round territory. If he was playing like last year I’d say a first
Thechozen1
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That would be beyond stupid by the Bruins.Coyle for middlestadt would be highway robbery.
From a JETS perspective, I like Frederic and Brazeau. Both play with some jam and aren’t afraid of crashing the net.
Fatass
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He has a No Move Clause. Doesn’t that mean he can’t be moved without waiving that clause?
wintersej
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NMC can have asterisks on them. They all cover being sent to the minors. Some did or did not cover the expansion draft. Some do or do not include full trade protection. Coyle’s comes with a limited no trade.
Fatass
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Sounds like he has a limited no trade clause regardless of what it’s called.
The Hockey Tonk Man
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I’ve ripped on him sure. But yeah, he does a lot of good things out there which a lot of teams would value....trash Carlo, then pump his tires with last sentence...sounds like Neely-run team...
The Bruins are a mess this year. Everyone is underperforming
...and it would keep Logan Stanley out of the Jets lineup...that in itself is a huge win for you guys...
Eddie Munson
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Can’t see the Bruins having any interest in Heinola as the main piece.
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Coyle for middlestadt would be highway robbery.
What are people’s obsession with Mittlestadt? I’d consider him AT BEST a lateral move from Coyle. Boston fans would turn on him in a week.
wintersej
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Frederic is an interesting one. Big bodied, chirpy, secondary 5 on 5 finisher that doesn't create his own offense and doesn't help on special teams. The previous two seasons he is within one or two 5 on 5 goals as Necas, Boeser, DeBrincat, Marchand, Crouse, and Jarvis. That's a great asset to have on your third line and the kind of pickup that does actually work at the deadline. But this season his production has plummeted on a team that just doesn't have enough speed and skill to create offensive opportunities for him to finish. And if he is not finishing and not adding to special teams he is just a good fourth liner. If he was producing like the last two seasons, I don't think asking a 1st from a contender is out of the question at all. But, he isn't producing like that. But, he is only 26 and there are obvious reasons for why he is not producing when you look at the Bruins roster. But, it doesn't change the fact he isn't producing. Going to be interesting, but I'd put money on something equivalent to a 2nd.
Geekie is nice in that he is an RFA that can play all three positions anywhere in the top 9 and go out and score 20 goals without PP time. 15 goals over his last 30 games since being put with Pasta. Again, a valuable finishing piece to a contender, but unless a team projects him as more than someone who can leech off a star like Pasta, seems like more of a 2nd round kind of thing.
Coyle scored 60 points last year in a defensive role. This year he is pacing for half that. He is 32, so there is more suspicion around his big drop than with Frederic. And he has another year of term. Another guy that you could have netted a first for if he was playing like last year, but at his salary and age and him having another year of term left, the risk that his production fall off is age related instead of team related is just too great to get value back. Closer to having to pay to move him that getting anything back. Which is such a shame and surprise after he had such a great year last year. Coyle going into the shitter, Elias Lindholm being a bust (although rumors of him playing thru something give hope that it isn't a 7 year bust), Hampus Lindholm getting hurt and Swayman starting so slow after the contract stuff are huge pieces as to why the Bruins season sunk. Bruins getting any value for the guy that helped sink their season isn't realistic.
Carlo should a good return if he was dealt. He has struggled a bit this year with Hampus Lindholm being hurt, but is still above water on a bad team getting a lot of defensive minutes. He wants to be the #2 on a pairing not the #1 and he has had to be the pairing leader in Boston this year with Lindholm out. He is too one way of a player to lead a pairing. But 28 year old big top 4 RD with a career +130 playing hard hard minutes is a super super super valuable piece for a contender. And his 4.1 AAV over the next two years makes it even better. This is one that the Bruins would need some convincing to move on from as they would add a 2RD to their list of holes in addition to really having to re-work the forward group. Hard to do that when Pasta is in his prime still. I think it would take a 1st or a couple 2nds if the first was too high.
Marchand would be your standard 1st + prospect kind of deal if he ever made it to market with the market dictating the quality of the prospect.
Geekie is nice in that he is an RFA that can play all three positions anywhere in the top 9 and go out and score 20 goals without PP time. 15 goals over his last 30 games since being put with Pasta. Again, a valuable finishing piece to a contender, but unless a team projects him as more than someone who can leech off a star like Pasta, seems like more of a 2nd round kind of thing.
Coyle scored 60 points last year in a defensive role. This year he is pacing for half that. He is 32, so there is more suspicion around his big drop than with Frederic. And he has another year of term. Another guy that you could have netted a first for if he was playing like last year, but at his salary and age and him having another year of term left, the risk that his production fall off is age related instead of team related is just too great to get value back. Closer to having to pay to move him that getting anything back. Which is such a shame and surprise after he had such a great year last year. Coyle going into the shitter, Elias Lindholm being a bust (although rumors of him playing thru something give hope that it isn't a 7 year bust), Hampus Lindholm getting hurt and Swayman starting so slow after the contract stuff are huge pieces as to why the Bruins season sunk. Bruins getting any value for the guy that helped sink their season isn't realistic.
Carlo should a good return if he was dealt. He has struggled a bit this year with Hampus Lindholm being hurt, but is still above water on a bad team getting a lot of defensive minutes. He wants to be the #2 on a pairing not the #1 and he has had to be the pairing leader in Boston this year with Lindholm out. He is too one way of a player to lead a pairing. But 28 year old big top 4 RD with a career +130 playing hard hard minutes is a super super super valuable piece for a contender. And his 4.1 AAV over the next two years makes it even better. This is one that the Bruins would need some convincing to move on from as they would add a 2RD to their list of holes in addition to really having to re-work the forward group. Hard to do that when Pasta is in his prime still. I think it would take a 1st or a couple 2nds if the first was too high.
Marchand would be your standard 1st + prospect kind of deal if he ever made it to market with the market dictating the quality of the prospect.
Coach Reggie Dunlop
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The bruins are dead in the water, they just don’t know it yet. The past couple seasons were their last chance. They need to sell whatever they can and get ahead of the rebuild before a couple years of mediocrity force their hand. They have no prospects, all of their new contracts are underperforming and their good home grown players are aging. It’s going to be steady decline from here on out. I think everyone should be available from their POV, for the right price.
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wintersej
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What’s hard is that Pasta (28), McAvoy (26), Swayman (26) is the good start of a core. But they need the center and I dunno where that comes from. This is where it gets dicey for teams in the mushy middle. Do you blow it all up and truly tank and risk being bad for a decade or more? Or do you pray that you are able to find a missing elite piece from the ether? And would ownership rather have empty seats for years or would they rather try to be one of those teams that can sneak in and one and done in the playoffs?
qc14
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Frederic is a classic 2nd round guy as a complimentary wing with some bite but worse scoring than you'd think. Could've seen the Caps being interested before Frank came up and solidified that 3w spot.
Marchand is also a classic 1st + B prospect rental. If they decide to move him (they should) I think you'd have a lot of teams calling.
Marchand is also a classic 1st + B prospect rental. If they decide to move him (they should) I think you'd have a lot of teams calling.
Son of Donegal
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It says a lot about how underwhelming Boston’s trade assets are when the thread is essentially bruins fans talking amongst themselves!
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Seems like a good fit for Jersey who brings alot of what he has. We're still not gritty enough with talent. I dont see Fitz paying more than 2nd with a quick resign now for the next few yrs. He'd be a great add.
