I'd love to get him on the Caps on a one year Hossa discount for Ovechkin's final season then give him a 13.25x8 extension in Jan 2026 kicking in the year Ovechkin and Carlson's contract is off the books. He's the real deal and we have the big beefy guys to shield him in the playoffs and let him play his game
Value of: Which teams are willing to give $13M, 7 years to Mitch Marner this summer?
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Does Marner strike you as the type to take a discount?
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With another team maybe.
He sure as shit won't be taking a discount in Toronto with Tavares, Matthews and Nylander making what they are and neither should anyone else there. The culture in Toronto was set when Pajama boy was brought in. Kadri took a discount and got yeeted like a sucker.
I like Marner. I think he takes a lot of crap. He's a really good player. If my Flames were short a winger and the rebuild was done I would hand him a bag of money. We just aren't at the right point to do that.
He's a good defensive wingers, a top 10 playmaker and a good possession guy too. He's a bit soft, but that's not a deal breaker for me.
He's a good defensive wingers, a top 10 playmaker and a good possession guy too. He's a bit soft, but that's not a deal breaker for me.
Ya I don't think him and his daddy are going to change philosophies going to Washington
Think Chicago would. If they don't start getting serious about getting Bedard some real help, that could get ugly and they will have a boat load of cap space.
Buffalo too would probably overpay him otherwise you could have an unhappy Dahlin there eventually.
Buffalo too would probably overpay him otherwise you could have an unhappy Dahlin there eventually.
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It's a legit argument in the context of him being talked about not showing up in the playoffs for more than one season which is what you ignored when you quoted my post and what I was replying to. Kopitar is a career .86 PPG in the regular season and .83 in the playoffs. Marner is a career 1.11 in the regular season and a .88 PPG in the playoffs. See why he gets faulted for lower point totals? Being one of the highest paid players in the league and not showing up in the playoffs more often than not is going to bring criticism. Just like Matthews Panarin etc get faulted for their playoff performances.
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Yes Bunting is/was a shitbag, but an effective shitbag. He was never a # 1 LW, better fit on the thirdline. And yes, letting Hyman walk was a colossal mistake.
But the lynchpin move, was signing Taveras. They never needed him. They had a more than adequate # 2 centre in Kadri, who was becoming the heart and sou of this team. Yes, he was/ is a hot head.Keeping Kadri, they could have focused and reallocated resources over the years to address the top 4 D and goaltending. And maybe with all that grit and shitbag teammates around, Mitchie and Mattie and Willie may not have wilted in the playoffs. There is a similar player to Kadri, in Boston, Did they ship him out. Nope, they made him a captain and a Bruin for life.
Dumbass and King Shanny, f#cked this whole thing up.
First the Ducks need high end forward talent/scoring right now, zero doubt about that. Your point about the reduced pressure is certainly valid. In a vacuum, he'd be a great addition to the current team and would easily be one of the best players.
My point was that if they're paying him $13+million/7yr (& it probably would have to be that much to get him) it will absolutely screw up contract negotiations moving forward. If/when the young guys they have now start playing to their potential they'll be asking PV "Hey, I'm producing 60-70% of what Marner is, how come you're only offering me a contract at less than half of what you're paying him...after the cap went way up? Pay me or trade me"
Then too, probably at least half his contract (the productive half) will be spent before the team realistically has any playoff contention expectations. If this was a couple of years from now when he became available, yeah I'd be all for adding him to the team as he'd be a great addition for the window opening. Right now though just doesn't seem worth it for a few reasons.
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Probably at least half a dozen teams will be lining up to give him 7 years/$13 million if he hits UFA. Teams don't get a ton of chances to add player of that offensive caliber via UFA and you can't be picky about what's in front of you. Basically anyone that has the cap space and wants to add significant talent to the roster would give it to him.
28 year old, 100 pt winger in his prime is absolutely getting paid. There will be a bidding war and it will come down to if he wants to stay home and leafs offer comparable money. That 8th year is going to matter too.
Where he goes? Imo, the Rangers are always lurking and I think he would stay out of the Atlantic. did he get along with Kennedy? Does NJ have cap space? Vegas always seems like they'd be in on it. Maybe Dallas
Where he goes? Imo, the Rangers are always lurking and I think he would stay out of the Atlantic. did he get along with Kennedy? Does NJ have cap space? Vegas always seems like they'd be in on it. Maybe Dallas
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The league is absolutely full of teams who feel they are one big swing away from the promised land, and would gladly risk being a playoff disappointment as long as they reliably made the playoffs.
It might be literally anyone with cap space aside from San Jose. They would probably try.
A good question would be who Marner would see as an up and coming squad to join. Marner-Bedard? Maybe if Chicago makes one big trade or signing, UFAs take notice
It might be literally anyone with cap space aside from San Jose. They would probably try.
A good question would be who Marner would see as an up and coming squad to join. Marner-Bedard? Maybe if Chicago makes one big trade or signing, UFAs take notice
Bruins need skill offensive talented guy plus Marner is a great 2 way guy....yes i can see Bruins really interested if he s available
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Trying to recall all the times in his GM career that Yzerman has chased the top UFA.
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I think he stays with the Leafs.........13.25M same as AM. 8 years unlike AM
He is their best player.
He is their best player.
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I don't disagree but Yzerman will have been the GM in Detroit for 6 years as of next April and have failed to make the playoffs each season he has been at the helm. At a certain point his seat is going to be getting warm, irrespective of his history in Detroit as a player.
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One could argue the Hawks fit as potential team to do it
3 reasons Hawks make potential sense
1) Cap
They have cap room to add a player at that cost this offseason and also have a ton of expiring contracts coming up
This coming summer (Barring trades before that) the Hawks have some sizeable $ being freed up in addition to open cap already available
Hall ($6M)
Martinez ($4M)
Athanasiou ($3.1M, Buried)
Kurashev ($2.25M)
McCabe ($2M, Retention)
Bailey ($1.166M, Buyout)
After 25-26 season these come of books
Murphy ($4.6M) (If not traded before that)
Foligno ($4.5M)
Dickinson ($4.25M)
Mrazek ($4.25M)
Mikheyev ($4.037.5M)
Brodie ($3.75M)
Brossoit ($3.3M)
Long term wise only guys signed beyond 25-26 season are
Jones ($9.5M) - UFA in 2030
Bertuzzi ($5.5M) - UFA in 2028
Teravainen ($5.4M) - UFA in 2027
Vlasic ($4.6M) - UFA in 2030
With Vlasic extended the only young player of note due a major raise soon will be Bedard after next season (Nazar, Korchinski and Reichel unless they have huge breakouts should be affordable and lower cost)
2) Need
NHL roster as noted as of now early in rebuild is still lacking in overall talent especially high-end talent around Bedard. Changing that situation would be best interest of Hawks thru some notable FA or trades
3) Hawks' depth in system offers potential of rapid improvement in coming years and use of prospects/picks via trade to help fill needs while not harming overall rebuild effort
Right now Hawks system is very healthy from recent drafts prospect wise
At NHL level currently
C/W Lukas Reichel - 2020 1st
D Nolan Allan - 2021 1st
C Frank Nazar - 2022 1st
C Connor Bedard - 2023 1st
D Wyatt Kaiser - 2020 3rd
D Louis Crevier - 2020 7th
In AHL
D Kevin Korchinski - 2022 1st
D Artyom Levshunov - 2024 1st
G Drew Commesso - 2020 2nd
RW Colton Dach - 2021 2nd
C Paul Ludwinski - 2022 2nd
LW Landon Slaggert - 2020 3rd
LW Samuel Savoie - 2022 3rd
LW Gavin Hayes - 2022 3rd
D Ethan Del Mastro - 2021 4th
D Isaak Phillips - 2020 5th
Notable NCAA, Jr's and beyond
D Sam Rinzel - 2022 1st
C Oliver Moore - 2023 1st
C Sacha Boisvert - 2024 1st
LW Marek Vanacker - 2024 1st
C Ryan Greene - 2022 2nd
G Adam Gajan - 2023 2nd
RW Roman Kantserov - 2023 2nd
C Martin Misiak - 2023 2nd
C Aidan Thompson - 2022 3rd
RW Nick Lardis - 2023 3rd
C Jiri Felcman - 2023 3rd
C John Mustard - 2024 3rd
C AJ Spellacy - 2024 3rd
RW Jack Pridham - 2024 3rd
RW ALex Pharand - 2023 4th
C Victor Stjernborg - 2021 4th
D Taige Harding - 2021 4th
C Ilya Safonov - 2021 6th
C Dominic James - 2022 6th
D Connor Kelley - 2021 7th
Hawks are already reaching point they will have to decide future of several prospects in NHL, AHL, NCAA or Jr's prospects in coming summers. To sign them to contracts as part of future or not while having a bevy of picks coming up to further stock pipeline long-term
Coming draft capital
2025 dart
Hawks 1st
Leafs 1st
Hawks 2nd
Stars 2nd
Hawks 4th
Rangers 4th
Hawks 6th
Hawks 7th
2026 draft
Hawks 1st
Hawks 2nd
Islanders 2nd
Leafs 2nd
Hawks 3rd
Hawks 4th
Senators 4th
Hawks 5th
Hawks 6th
Hawks 7th (Wouldn't transfer to Pens if condition is accurate of Rem Pitlick not meeting games required played for Hawks stipulation)
2027 draft
Hawks 1st
Hawks 2nd
Canucks 2nd
Hawks 3rd
Hawks 5th
Hawks 6th
Hawks 7th
Hawks if they decide to be in mix may potentially be among most appealing options for Marner camp even with current situation of being at bottom of league
3 reasons Hawks make potential sense
1) Cap
They have cap room to add a player at that cost this offseason and also have a ton of expiring contracts coming up
This coming summer (Barring trades before that) the Hawks have some sizeable $ being freed up in addition to open cap already available
Hall ($6M)
Martinez ($4M)
Athanasiou ($3.1M, Buried)
Kurashev ($2.25M)
McCabe ($2M, Retention)
Bailey ($1.166M, Buyout)
After 25-26 season these come of books
Murphy ($4.6M) (If not traded before that)
Foligno ($4.5M)
Dickinson ($4.25M)
Mrazek ($4.25M)
Mikheyev ($4.037.5M)
Brodie ($3.75M)
Brossoit ($3.3M)
Long term wise only guys signed beyond 25-26 season are
Jones ($9.5M) - UFA in 2030
Bertuzzi ($5.5M) - UFA in 2028
Teravainen ($5.4M) - UFA in 2027
Vlasic ($4.6M) - UFA in 2030
With Vlasic extended the only young player of note due a major raise soon will be Bedard after next season (Nazar, Korchinski and Reichel unless they have huge breakouts should be affordable and lower cost)
2) Need
NHL roster as noted as of now early in rebuild is still lacking in overall talent especially high-end talent around Bedard. Changing that situation would be best interest of Hawks thru some notable FA or trades
3) Hawks' depth in system offers potential of rapid improvement in coming years and use of prospects/picks via trade to help fill needs while not harming overall rebuild effort
Right now Hawks system is very healthy from recent drafts prospect wise
At NHL level currently
C/W Lukas Reichel - 2020 1st
D Nolan Allan - 2021 1st
C Frank Nazar - 2022 1st
C Connor Bedard - 2023 1st
D Wyatt Kaiser - 2020 3rd
D Louis Crevier - 2020 7th
In AHL
D Kevin Korchinski - 2022 1st
D Artyom Levshunov - 2024 1st
G Drew Commesso - 2020 2nd
RW Colton Dach - 2021 2nd
C Paul Ludwinski - 2022 2nd
LW Landon Slaggert - 2020 3rd
LW Samuel Savoie - 2022 3rd
LW Gavin Hayes - 2022 3rd
D Ethan Del Mastro - 2021 4th
D Isaak Phillips - 2020 5th
Notable NCAA, Jr's and beyond
D Sam Rinzel - 2022 1st
C Oliver Moore - 2023 1st
C Sacha Boisvert - 2024 1st
LW Marek Vanacker - 2024 1st
C Ryan Greene - 2022 2nd
G Adam Gajan - 2023 2nd
RW Roman Kantserov - 2023 2nd
C Martin Misiak - 2023 2nd
C Aidan Thompson - 2022 3rd
RW Nick Lardis - 2023 3rd
C Jiri Felcman - 2023 3rd
C John Mustard - 2024 3rd
C AJ Spellacy - 2024 3rd
RW Jack Pridham - 2024 3rd
RW ALex Pharand - 2023 4th
C Victor Stjernborg - 2021 4th
D Taige Harding - 2021 4th
C Ilya Safonov - 2021 6th
C Dominic James - 2022 6th
D Connor Kelley - 2021 7th
Hawks are already reaching point they will have to decide future of several prospects in NHL, AHL, NCAA or Jr's prospects in coming summers. To sign them to contracts as part of future or not while having a bevy of picks coming up to further stock pipeline long-term
Coming draft capital
2025 dart
Hawks 1st
Leafs 1st
Hawks 2nd
Stars 2nd
Hawks 4th
Rangers 4th
Hawks 6th
Hawks 7th
2026 draft
Hawks 1st
Hawks 2nd
Islanders 2nd
Leafs 2nd
Hawks 3rd
Hawks 4th
Senators 4th
Hawks 5th
Hawks 6th
Hawks 7th (Wouldn't transfer to Pens if condition is accurate of Rem Pitlick not meeting games required played for Hawks stipulation)
2027 draft
Hawks 1st
Hawks 2nd
Canucks 2nd
Hawks 3rd
Hawks 5th
Hawks 6th
Hawks 7th
Hawks if they decide to be in mix may potentially be among most appealing options for Marner camp even with current situation of being at bottom of league
ProfessorFink22
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Although I'm not sure the 7th round Rem Pitlick draft pick, or dudes like Taige Harding, will have bearing on Mitch Marner's future, I'm glad you included them for posterity. Make sure you attach your bibliography when submitting an essay, friend!
I'm kidding, of course. Like most on here, I can see a world where Chicago is in on this. Getting out of the rebuild is incredibly hard, and it's very clear they don't have elite pieces after Bedard to do it meaningfully.
