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Which team is in the worst situation?

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Go look at San Jose’s capfriendly page and tell me how it isn’t them.

(Vancouver’s ownership flat out refusing to ever rebuild makes them a close second)
 
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Chainshot said:
Arizona comes down to the May vote for the new arena district. In the meantime, the team that is 8th in the league in payroll per Capfriendly and 26th in the league in the standings, with an oft-meddlesome owner who fired the last guy who tried a rebuild is my pick. Vancouver has a lot of problems right now and it just seems to be getting worse.
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At least they have an owner who has money and they won't move anytime soon

Still think they that Vancouver is in the second tier of team, with Flyers: both should rebuild but can't because of tons of bad contracts with terms. Colombus could also be in the same boat
 
Bouboumaster said:
Still think they that Vancouver is in the second tier of team, with Flyers: both should rebuild but can't because of tons of bad contracts with terms. Colombus could also be in the same boat
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Columbus is 100000% not in that boat. One of the youngest teams in the league and a loaded prospect pool. They don’t even belong in the discussion. They’ll probably have a top 3 pick too. The Gudbranson contract is really their only really bad contract. But it’s $4M. Not that bad (4M for Gud is f***ing terrible, but 4M is very manageable - that’s what I mean).
 
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Bouboumaster said:
At least they have an owner who has money and they won't move anytime soon

Still think they that Vancouver is in the second tier of team, with Flyers: both should rebuild but can't because of tons of bad contracts with terms. Colombus could also be in the same boat
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I am with @3074326 on this - Columbus is not in the bottom tier. They have some very good young pieces and have been absolutely gutted by injuries this year. They also don't seem to have ownership that is actively meddlesome (which can be said of Vancouver and Philly IMO).
 
BB88 said:
Their entire core is build around 21-27y players.
What a silly comment.

They’ll drop 15M of useless cap next summer and retool within the next 1-2 years.

Yeah they don’t have picks but they really don’t need to find franchise talent for a long time, they need depth players.
That’s what lot of the fans miss, Barkov is their best player and only 27y, Tkachuk 2nd best and he’s 25y

Flyers are a total mess and would get my vote.
San Jose will be at the bottom for a long time as well
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To me the worst case is being a team always picking 10-15. No franchise changing talent and not competing. Flyers will be adding franchise talent. So will Arizona and SJ and all these teams. When their bad contracts end they have franchise talent to fill that void.

Panthers need to re-sign their core. Sure those two are locked in but Ekblad isn't, Knight is on a bridge, Reinhart isn't. They need several dmen, how do they get that?

I think they are going to be a mediocre team for many many years. That to me is worst shape
 
3074326 said:
Columbus is 100000% not in that boat. One of the youngest teams in the league and a loaded prospect pool. They don’t even belong in the discussion. They’ll probably have a top 3 pick too. The Gudbranson contract is really their only really bad contract. But it’s $4M. Not that bad (4M for Gud is f***ing terrible, but 4M is very manageable - that’s what I mean).
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Chainshot said:
I am with @3074326 on this - Columbus is not in the bottom tier. They have some very good young pieces and have been absolutely gutted by injuries this year. They also don't seem to have ownership that is actively meddlesome (which can be said of Vancouver and Philly IMO).
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I just can't get pass the Gaudreau's contract lol, but you might be right

Philadelphia and Vancouver are still in the second tiers tho, for similar reasons


San Jose too but at least they seems to have acknowledge reality and I'm sure that they are in the next "Tanking Class", once their bad contracts come close to an end
 
Vancouver, Montreal and Arizona all look to me like they’re going nowhere and don’t have enough high end assets to build a contender.
After that it’s Columbus, Chicago and San Jose in the next tier.
 
I voted Vancouver because I don't even count Arizona. They are only still in league because of Bettman. Feel bad for the fans they have. Vancouver is just a mess with no clear direction. They should be stripping it down but keep trying to compete when everyone can see they are not close with this blueline and cap management.
 
HFpapi said:
What does this even mean?

What "cinderella" run are the Leafs on? We haven't made it past the first round since ****ing 2004. Cinderella teams are bad team doing well. We are a good team doing poorly (in the playoffs).
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Almost.

You're a bad team overperforming during the regular season. That's why you get perpetually pimp-slapped in the playoffs.
 
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I say Philly or Vancouver

PHI may not even get a top 6 pick this summer, and their best prospect is Cutter Gauthier.

Couturier and Atkinson coming back next season means they will be just a little better, and probably still miss the playoffs.
 
HFpapi said:
What does this even mean?

What "cinderella" run are the Leafs on? We haven't made it past the first round since ****ing 2004. Cinderella teams are bad team doing well. We are a good team doing poorly (in the playoffs).
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It means negative attention is better than none at all.

So I voted Vancouver. Too good for a decent pick, not good enough for playoffs. They seem stuck.
 
It’s Vancouver and the whole circus over there and it is funny, but people are sleeping on the Flyers.

Hayes and Ristolainen combined eat almost 15% of their cap for 4-5 more years.

Over six to Ryan Ellis, one of the glassiest players ever, just there on LTIR.

Another 10% to Farabee and Laughton - fine players but they’re a combined 80-19-28-47. Wouldn’t you rather have one guy at 8 putting up those numbers in 42 games instead?

Owen Tippett looks to be turning into something which is good, but where is the development on Morgan Frost?

Provorov is gonzo probably before he hits UFA, Sanheim, Hart and Konecny are great and they’re quite pick-heavy upcoming, too bad it’s gonna be Chuck Fletcher making the picks.

Unless of course they get Bedard - then that’s a major shot in the arm for them.
 
Montreal is fooling themselves over how their rebuild is going. By the time they figure that out and head into rebuild number 2 they are likely to try and rush that second rebuild. It's a recipe for a team that could stay at the bottom for a long time.


I see it playing out similarly to what happened in Buffalo and Arizona, an initial failure of a rebuild followed by a bunch of half **** rushed rebuild. Buffalo seems to have got the hang of it this time and I see some good signs in Arizona, but they do need a few more years and maybe a lottery win.
 
Vancouver has no business winning this poll.

Sure, they are currently experimenting a meltdown and are badly managed. But they also have many high value assets that could turn this team around pretty quickly. Pettersson, Horvat, Kuzmenko, Miller, Boeser, Mikheyev, Hughes, Demko, etc. It's really a great core to build around OR to obtain great assets in return.

Chicago has none of those.

San Jose and Philly also have very little of those and refuse to rebuild and their prospect pool sucks.

Arizona seems to be stuck in an eternal rebuild.

Those are 4 picks in order :
1- Chicago
2- San Jose
3- Philly
4- Arizona

Then maybe we can start considering Vancouver somewhere between 5 and 10.
 
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leafsfan5 said:
Philadelphia is a barren wasteland
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Philly is my pick aswell.

Has to be a team in no mans land regarding the draft/playoffs, and though Vancouver shares having a delusional GM, they have better young players to work with when a rebuild finally happens.

Philly is sending Kevin Hayes to the Allstar game; a player they've scratched this season.
 
i picked san jose, but it could easily end up vancouver or florida.

there are just so many bad contracts under their cap. they retain on burns for this and two more seasons. the martin jones buy out is running for 4.5 years.

both vancouver and florida are today in a much better position. but if they continue try to force their way into contention, they could end up in a worse position than san jose is today.
 
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