ShaneFalco
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Right because he's never made a trade to address needs
Which goalie should we go after ?
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Right because he's never made a trade to address needs
Well to be fair Muzzin is left handed, which according to the coach that will not be named, is a huge issue, even if it significantly improved a need.
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Wish I could go back and add them as options, maybe a Mod can help ? Are those guys realistically available though ?
Bryanbryoil
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My bad, I didn't read the whole thread and replied to your post as soon as I saw it. IMO the best case scenario for the Leafs is that Campbell stays healthy and proves to be a late blooming #1 goalie. With Andersen's stats the last 2 seasons I don't see how Dubas could commit starter $ to him unless he has a very strong postseason for you guys.
The key with the Oilers is that we were consistently outplaying other teams but still losing due to piss poor goaltending. If this is the same case with the Leafs then I think that it might be a good idea to at least consider it. Kuemper seems to not be an option as he is still hurt, Raanta is a band-aid, so I'm not sure who would be a good buy low option in net. Ullmark probably would be a good option if Buffalo can't re-sign him to that tire fire of a team.
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I didn't pick Gibson but if there is any concern about his contract, consider that teams are obviously interested in him now (even with that contract) and so they still will be after the season is over.
- If he comes in, looks good, but not great, and the Leafs go on a decent playoff run, he won't be hard to move. So Dubas can reclaim part of his investment or leave him unprotected and maybe Seattle bites.
- If he comes in and is great, hold on to him and make whatever move(s) necessary salary-wise to keep him, if any (read: Kerfoot gone).
- If he flops spectacularly, beg Seattle to take him with a sweetener if necessary. But at least in that case Dubas took a shot and lets be honest, if the team sticks with Freddie and he flops they get nothing when he walks in the off-season and Kyle will have to go into witness protection for not making a move and relying on Andersen.
More upside here than downside.
- If he comes in, looks good, but not great, and the Leafs go on a decent playoff run, he won't be hard to move. So Dubas can reclaim part of his investment or leave him unprotected and maybe Seattle bites.
- If he comes in and is great, hold on to him and make whatever move(s) necessary salary-wise to keep him, if any (read: Kerfoot gone).
- If he flops spectacularly, beg Seattle to take him with a sweetener if necessary. But at least in that case Dubas took a shot and lets be honest, if the team sticks with Freddie and he flops they get nothing when he walks in the off-season and Kyle will have to go into witness protection for not making a move and relying on Andersen.
More upside here than downside.
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Maybe Raanta as a rental, just to make sure Hutchinson never gets back into the net. Anyone with term is non-starter considering the cap situation. The Gibson talk is crazy, way too hefty of a contract.
The Leafs just have to roll with Campbell now. He's been the best of their goalies and deserves a shot anyway. Next season, maybe they can sign Raanta or Driedger moderately cheaply and run a platoon with Jack.
The Leafs just have to roll with Campbell now. He's been the best of their goalies and deserves a shot anyway. Next season, maybe they can sign Raanta or Driedger moderately cheaply and run a platoon with Jack.
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No one doubts Campbell's ability, but his endurance is a big question mark.
Dubas should not rest on his laurels given the opportunity at hand.
Should the Maple Leafs trade for a goalie to replace Frederik Andersen? Here are 9 candidates – The Athletic
The Rentals
Jonathan Bernier, Detroit. A reunion. Replaced by Andersen five years ago after a tough season under Mike Babcock, Bernier is now 32 and putting together a strong campaign in rebuilding Detroit (.918 save percentage). He’s also on an expiring contract, with a modest $3 million cap hit. One problem: He’s currently hurt. Another: He didn’t handle the Toronto pressure cooker especially well before. The stakes are much higher now, obviously, but Bernier is also considerably more experienced than when he was previously a Leaf. He also wouldn’t be expected to lead the crease, just be in the mix as an alternative to Campbell.
Devan Dubnyk, San Jose. It’s been a while since he was in the Vezina conversation in Minnesota, as a top candidate in both 2015 and 2017. Dubnyk is 34 now and splitting time with Martin Jones in San Jose, with numbers that paint him as a backup, at best. Dubnyk has also lost 18 of his 26 career starts in the playoffs, for what that’s worth. But perhaps as a No. 2 to Campbell, with a cheap acquisition cost, there might be a fit if the Leafs decide they absolutely must move on from Andersen. It’s hard to see him as much of an upgrade, however. Dubnyk’s cap hit was $4.33 million, but the Sharks are only paying half of that given the Wild retained salary. San Jose would surely retain a large piece of the remaining $2.17 million to make a deal work.
Antti Raanta, Arizona. Raanta has a .922 save percentage since the start of the 2016-17 season, which puts him up among the league leaders. But that’s in somewhat limited action, in large part because of a long injury history, something that has limited him to only nine games this season. It’s doubtful the Leafs would want to count on him, even as a backup, in the playoffs.
The Gambles
Alexandar Georgiev, N.Y. Rangers. Georgiev is one goalie the Leafs briefly looked at last season before acquiring Campbell from the Kings. He makes $2.425 million on the cap and hasn’t had a great season. His track record also isn’t all that large, so the fit isn’t great given the high hopes the Leafs have this season. They’re likely better off with Andersen, even with his struggles.
Joonas Korpisalo, Columbus. Korpisalo made a significant impression on the Leafs last year in their play-in series. He finished the playoffs with a .941 save percentage in nine starts. The 26-year-old is signed for another season after this one for $2.8 million, but his play has been fairly mediocre overall and it’s unclear whether he would be an upgrade on Andersen. The Blue Jackets also haven’t decided to be sellers as they continue to hang in the playoff race.
Veterans With Term
John Gibson, Anaheim. Gibson has been one of the NHL’s top netminders for years. But with the Ducks sagging in the standings, his numbers have slipped of late. And the 27-year-old has six years remaining on a $6.4 million a season contract that would be difficult for the Leafs to accommodate given their tight cap situation. This would be a hard deal to make in-season — if the Ducks even make Gibson available — and especially given Toronto wants to give Campbell an opportunity to battle for the No. 1 role. Likely not a fit.
Darcy Kuemper, Arizona. Kuemper would be the No. 1 candidate here if he was healthy. Kuemper is under contract next season at $4.5 million on the cap, so he ticks off the Andersen 2021-22 replacement box not only for this season but next. Is he so much better than Andersen that he’s worth the acquisition cost, which is believed to be a first-round pick? Given where things stand with Andersen at the moment, we might be getting there. Can the Leafs be confident that he’d be able to come into this market in the middle of the season, with championship pressure on his shoulders, and perform? That’s a big unknown.
Anton Khudobin, Dallas. He helped drive the Stars all the way to the Stanley Cup Final last year, standing in for Ben Bishop. He’s been a competent No. 2 for nearly a decade now. He’ll also turn 35 in May, has been just OK this season and has two more seasons left on his contract at $3.33 million on the cap. But Khudobin could certainly be a solid backup for the Leafs, support Campbell this season and next, and be ready to step in if needed for more. That he’ll remain on the books for the 2022-23 season, when he’ll be 37, isn’t especially appealing — even if the Stars retain some money. A worthy option for consideration, however, and Dallas is willing to deal.
Jonathan Quick, Los Angeles. Quick has been in decline for years. And with the dollar and term on his deal — two years remaining at a $5.8 million cap hit — this feels a bit far-fetched. But the Kings would likely be willing to retain half of the contract simply to unload it, and Quick and Campbell have a close relationship from their time together in L.A. Would he make sense as a veteran backup with plenty of playoff experience, in case Campbell faltered? We don’t love the fit, but league sources advise not to rule it out entirely.
The Rentals
Jonathan Bernier, Detroit. A reunion. Replaced by Andersen five years ago after a tough season under Mike Babcock, Bernier is now 32 and putting together a strong campaign in rebuilding Detroit (.918 save percentage). He’s also on an expiring contract, with a modest $3 million cap hit. One problem: He’s currently hurt. Another: He didn’t handle the Toronto pressure cooker especially well before. The stakes are much higher now, obviously, but Bernier is also considerably more experienced than when he was previously a Leaf. He also wouldn’t be expected to lead the crease, just be in the mix as an alternative to Campbell.
Devan Dubnyk, San Jose. It’s been a while since he was in the Vezina conversation in Minnesota, as a top candidate in both 2015 and 2017. Dubnyk is 34 now and splitting time with Martin Jones in San Jose, with numbers that paint him as a backup, at best. Dubnyk has also lost 18 of his 26 career starts in the playoffs, for what that’s worth. But perhaps as a No. 2 to Campbell, with a cheap acquisition cost, there might be a fit if the Leafs decide they absolutely must move on from Andersen. It’s hard to see him as much of an upgrade, however. Dubnyk’s cap hit was $4.33 million, but the Sharks are only paying half of that given the Wild retained salary. San Jose would surely retain a large piece of the remaining $2.17 million to make a deal work.
Antti Raanta, Arizona. Raanta has a .922 save percentage since the start of the 2016-17 season, which puts him up among the league leaders. But that’s in somewhat limited action, in large part because of a long injury history, something that has limited him to only nine games this season. It’s doubtful the Leafs would want to count on him, even as a backup, in the playoffs.
The Gambles
Alexandar Georgiev, N.Y. Rangers. Georgiev is one goalie the Leafs briefly looked at last season before acquiring Campbell from the Kings. He makes $2.425 million on the cap and hasn’t had a great season. His track record also isn’t all that large, so the fit isn’t great given the high hopes the Leafs have this season. They’re likely better off with Andersen, even with his struggles.
Joonas Korpisalo, Columbus. Korpisalo made a significant impression on the Leafs last year in their play-in series. He finished the playoffs with a .941 save percentage in nine starts. The 26-year-old is signed for another season after this one for $2.8 million, but his play has been fairly mediocre overall and it’s unclear whether he would be an upgrade on Andersen. The Blue Jackets also haven’t decided to be sellers as they continue to hang in the playoff race.
Veterans With Term
John Gibson, Anaheim. Gibson has been one of the NHL’s top netminders for years. But with the Ducks sagging in the standings, his numbers have slipped of late. And the 27-year-old has six years remaining on a $6.4 million a season contract that would be difficult for the Leafs to accommodate given their tight cap situation. This would be a hard deal to make in-season — if the Ducks even make Gibson available — and especially given Toronto wants to give Campbell an opportunity to battle for the No. 1 role. Likely not a fit.
Darcy Kuemper, Arizona. Kuemper would be the No. 1 candidate here if he was healthy. Kuemper is under contract next season at $4.5 million on the cap, so he ticks off the Andersen 2021-22 replacement box not only for this season but next. Is he so much better than Andersen that he’s worth the acquisition cost, which is believed to be a first-round pick? Given where things stand with Andersen at the moment, we might be getting there. Can the Leafs be confident that he’d be able to come into this market in the middle of the season, with championship pressure on his shoulders, and perform? That’s a big unknown.
Anton Khudobin, Dallas. He helped drive the Stars all the way to the Stanley Cup Final last year, standing in for Ben Bishop. He’s been a competent No. 2 for nearly a decade now. He’ll also turn 35 in May, has been just OK this season and has two more seasons left on his contract at $3.33 million on the cap. But Khudobin could certainly be a solid backup for the Leafs, support Campbell this season and next, and be ready to step in if needed for more. That he’ll remain on the books for the 2022-23 season, when he’ll be 37, isn’t especially appealing — even if the Stars retain some money. A worthy option for consideration, however, and Dallas is willing to deal.
Jonathan Quick, Los Angeles. Quick has been in decline for years. And with the dollar and term on his deal — two years remaining at a $5.8 million cap hit — this feels a bit far-fetched. But the Kings would likely be willing to retain half of the contract simply to unload it, and Quick and Campbell have a close relationship from their time together in L.A. Would he make sense as a veteran backup with plenty of playoff experience, in case Campbell faltered? We don’t love the fit, but league sources advise not to rule it out entirely.
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Seeing that the Flyers have tons of LTIR space, could they structure a trade for Freddy and immediately place him on LTIR so they can Kucherov him for the playoffs (if they think they have a chance)? We get Elliot back for him (>.800 HD save%) as a backup to Campbell plus futures in order to open up some cap space.
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